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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com> on 2014/06/20 00:47:09 UTC

building and testing 4.4.

Hi Rohit,
Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that included
in Wido's released versions?

I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
git checkout remotes/origin/4.4

Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
 Are all versions of CloudStack affected?

thanks,
Carlos

PS figured it would be good to change the subject of this thread....


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I can do that.
> >
> > My current install is from the repo http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu.
> >  Do you know if that is built with -Dnoredist? I would like to make sure
> I
> > build and package the same way.
> >
>
> Wido maintains it and only hosts released versions of CloudStack and AFAIK
> we don't have an active nightlies debian build repo for users.
>
> That means, you'll have to build from source which is not very hard to do
> (you may even automate it):
>
> 1. Download the 4.4 branch zipball:
>     https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/archive/4.4.zip
>
> 2. Follow this:
>
>
> http://cloudstack-installation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/building_from_source.html#prerequisites-for-building-apache-cloudstack
>
> If you're stuck or have any issues reach out to the community, we're good
> people :)
>
> @Wido: Hey! Can you start the nightlies again so users don't have to do
> debian builds themselves?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Carlos Reátegui <creategui@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Daan,
> > > >
> > > > I have not tried 4.3.  I saw some of the issues people were having
> and
> > > > decided to hold off from trying.
> > > >
> > > > Do you suggest I try with 4.3 or should I build my own deb packages
> and
> > > > try 4.4?
> > > >
> > > > BTW I am on ubuntu 12.04 + XenServer 6.0.2
> > > >
> > >
> > > Carlos, Daan is suggesting that you help us test our upcoming 4.4
> release
> > > :) using the 4.4 branch [1]
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/4.4
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogland@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Carlos, please export your db and do a test upgrade on a lab
> machine?
> > > > > Now is the time to solve any upgrade issues in 4.4.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you tried the 4.3 upgrade already?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Daan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
> > creategui@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> Hi Rohit,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The awsapi was one of the reasons we chose to use ACS.  We have
> > > > developed some internal tools and apps to manage our deployments on
> AWS
> > > > that we want to re-use on ACS.  We have not been able to use it yet
> > > because
> > > > it was broken in 4.1.1.  We tried to upgrade to 4.2 and were
> > unsuccessful
> > > > and are now waiting for 4.4 to finally upgrade and hopefully be able
> to
> > > use
> > > > the awsapi.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We use ACS internally for development and testing of our
> > applications
> > > > that we push to AWS.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> thanks,
> > > > >> Carlos
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Who uses "awsapi" or any other EC2 compatible interface such as
> > > > ec2stack
> > > > >>> with CloudStack (or CloudStack distros such as Citrix
> > CloudPlatform)
> > > in
> > > > >>> production? And, if marketing and publicity are/were big
> > > motivation(s)?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In case you don't want to discuss on this thread, please take
> this
> > > > >>> anonymous poll:
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/fbyfdc/who-uses-awsapi-with-cloudstack-in-prouduction
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> # Some stats
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I've been watching Collab14 videos and found references where
> many
> > > > speakers
> > > > >>> reference overall CloudStack codebase to be about 1.5M (million)
> > > lines
> > > > of
> > > > >>> Java code which is not "exactly" true. Let me share some
> findings;
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> - As of today, CloudStack master is about 1.7M lines of Java code
> > [1]
> > > > >>> - CloudStack "awsapi" artifact is 1.04M lines of Java code [2]
> > > > >>> - Code excluding "awsapi", tests and license/comment is about
> 590k
> > > > lines of
> > > > >>> Java code [3]
> > > > >>> - The core excluding plugins, api and the above is about 300k
> lines
> > > of
> > > > Java
> > > > >>> code [4]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Why should  I care:
> > > > >>> - some useful/fun stats to keep in mind
> > > > >>> - it's not a giant mammoth that cannot be fixed or developed upon
> > > > >>> - encouraging for new developers that if they try they can
> > understand
> > > > and
> > > > >>> fix it
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> FYI, this started on twitter yesterday:
> > > > >>> https://twitter.com/_bhaisaab/status/479007075414974465
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [1] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep java$ | xargs cat | wc -l
> > > > >>> [2] cd cloudstack-repo && find awsapi | grep java$ | xargs cat |
> wc
> > > -l
> > > > >>> [3] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
> > [tT]est |
> > > > grep
> > > > >>> java$ | xargs cat | grep -v '^//' | wc -l
> > > > >>> [4] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
> > [Tt]est |
> > > > grep
> > > > >>> -v plugins | grep -v api | grep java$ | xargs cat | grep -v
> '^//' |
> > > wc
> > > > -l
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Daan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>.
On Jun 20, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rohit,
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Carlos,
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Rohit,
>>>> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that
>> included
>>>> in Wido's released versions?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware
>> jars
>>> and other non-oss stuff).
>>> 
>> Thanks for checking... I guess I could have done that.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
>>>> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
>>>> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>>>> Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
>>> would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.
>> How do you recommend dealing with the tomcat6 dependency check in the
>> cloudstack install? I found 6.0.32 debs here:
>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/tomcat6/6.0.32-5ubuntu1 would
>> those be ok?  Should I build my own? I am assuming these instructions
>> should work for ubuntu:
>> http://plone.uconn.edu/workspaces/uits-linux/standard-operating-procedures-sop/packaging-tomcat-6-for-debian
> 
> 
> I think 6.0.32 would work. I build from source and run using maven so I
> don't use debian/rpms builds myself, whether using 6.0.35 or 6.0.32 from
> default repo will work (it may); just try them both, the worst case would
> be that it will fail after which you can try building your own.
I have been running 4.1.1 since last year on 6.0.35 without any issues that I can tell.  I tried searching for the issues with .35 but can’t find anything concrete.  The build docs just say there is a known issue but don’t specify what that is.  Anyone know what this known issue is?

I see this as a bigger documentation/installation problem as the install docs don’t mention how to get around this dependency.  If you just follow the instructions you end up with .35 on ubuntu 12.04.

> 
> Any debian user/sysadmin want to comment here?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for filing the doc bug.
>> No prob.  I wold have made the changes myself but wasn't sure what the
>> preferred solution for the above dependency should be.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> 
>> <snip>


Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>.
On Jun 20, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rohit,
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Carlos,
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Rohit,
>>>> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that
>> included
>>>> in Wido's released versions?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware
>> jars
>>> and other non-oss stuff).
>>> 
>> Thanks for checking... I guess I could have done that.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
>>>> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
>>>> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>>>> Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
>>> would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.
>> How do you recommend dealing with the tomcat6 dependency check in the
>> cloudstack install? I found 6.0.32 debs here:
>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/tomcat6/6.0.32-5ubuntu1 would
>> those be ok?  Should I build my own? I am assuming these instructions
>> should work for ubuntu:
>> http://plone.uconn.edu/workspaces/uits-linux/standard-operating-procedures-sop/packaging-tomcat-6-for-debian
> 
> 
> I think 6.0.32 would work. I build from source and run using maven so I
> don't use debian/rpms builds myself, whether using 6.0.35 or 6.0.32 from
> default repo will work (it may); just try them both, the worst case would
> be that it will fail after which you can try building your own.
I have been running 4.1.1 since last year on 6.0.35 without any issues that I can tell.  I tried searching for the issues with .35 but can’t find anything concrete.  The build docs just say there is a known issue but don’t specify what that is.  Anyone know what this known issue is?

I see this as a bigger documentation/installation problem as the install docs don’t mention how to get around this dependency.  If you just follow the instructions you end up with .35 on ubuntu 12.04.

> 
> Any debian user/sysadmin want to comment here?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for filing the doc bug.
>> No prob.  I wold have made the changes myself but wasn't sure what the
>> preferred solution for the above dependency should be.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> 
>> <snip>


Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
>
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rohit,
> >> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that
> included
> >> in Wido's released versions?
> >>
> >
> > This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware
> jars
> > and other non-oss stuff).
> >
> Thanks for checking... I guess I could have done that.
>
> >
> >>
> >> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
> >> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
> >>
> >
> > Yes :)
> >
> >
> >> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
> >> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
> >> Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
> >>
> >
> > Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
> > would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.
> How do you recommend dealing with the tomcat6 dependency check in the
> cloudstack install? I found 6.0.32 debs here:
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/tomcat6/6.0.32-5ubuntu1 would
> those be ok?  Should I build my own? I am assuming these instructions
> should work for ubuntu:
> http://plone.uconn.edu/workspaces/uits-linux/standard-operating-procedures-sop/packaging-tomcat-6-for-debian


I think 6.0.32 would work. I build from source and run using maven so I
don't use debian/rpms builds myself, whether using 6.0.35 or 6.0.32 from
default repo will work (it may); just try them both, the worst case would
be that it will fail after which you can try building your own.

Any debian user/sysadmin want to comment here?

Regards.


>
>
> >
> > Thanks for filing the doc bug.
> No prob.  I wold have made the changes myself but wasn't sure what the
> preferred solution for the above dependency should be.
>
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> <snip>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
>
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rohit,
> >> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that
> included
> >> in Wido's released versions?
> >>
> >
> > This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware
> jars
> > and other non-oss stuff).
> >
> Thanks for checking... I guess I could have done that.
>
> >
> >>
> >> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
> >> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
> >>
> >
> > Yes :)
> >
> >
> >> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
> >> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
> >> Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
> >>
> >
> > Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
> > would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.
> How do you recommend dealing with the tomcat6 dependency check in the
> cloudstack install? I found 6.0.32 debs here:
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/tomcat6/6.0.32-5ubuntu1 would
> those be ok?  Should I build my own? I am assuming these instructions
> should work for ubuntu:
> http://plone.uconn.edu/workspaces/uits-linux/standard-operating-procedures-sop/packaging-tomcat-6-for-debian


I think 6.0.32 would work. I build from source and run using maven so I
don't use debian/rpms builds myself, whether using 6.0.35 or 6.0.32 from
default repo will work (it may); just try them both, the worst case would
be that it will fail after which you can try building your own.

Any debian user/sysadmin want to comment here?

Regards.


>
>
> >
> > Thanks for filing the doc bug.
> No prob.  I wold have made the changes myself but wasn't sure what the
> preferred solution for the above dependency should be.
>
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> <snip>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rohit,

On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rohit,
>> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that included
>> in Wido's released versions?
>> 
> 
> This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware jars
> and other non-oss stuff).
> 
Thanks for checking… I guess I could have done that.

> 
>> 
>> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
>> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>> 
> 
> Yes :)
> 
> 
>> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
>> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>> Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>> 
> 
> Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
> would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.
How do you recommend dealing with the tomcat6 dependency check in the cloudstack install? I found 6.0.32 debs here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/tomcat6/6.0.32-5ubuntu1 would those be ok?  Should I build my own? I am assuming these instructions should work for ubuntu: http://plone.uconn.edu/workspaces/uits-linux/standard-operating-procedures-sop/packaging-tomcat-6-for-debian

> 
> Thanks for filing the doc bug.
No prob.  I wold have made the changes myself but wasn’t sure what the preferred solution for the above dependency should be.

> 
> Regards.
> 
<snip>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Carlos Reátegui <cr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rohit,

On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rohit,
>> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that included
>> in Wido's released versions?
>> 
> 
> This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware jars
> and other non-oss stuff).
> 
Thanks for checking… I guess I could have done that.

> 
>> 
>> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
>> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>> 
> 
> Yes :)
> 
> 
>> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
>> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>> Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>> 
> 
> Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
> would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.
How do you recommend dealing with the tomcat6 dependency check in the cloudstack install? I found 6.0.32 debs here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/tomcat6/6.0.32-5ubuntu1 would those be ok?  Should I build my own? I am assuming these instructions should work for ubuntu: http://plone.uconn.edu/workspaces/uits-linux/standard-operating-procedures-sop/packaging-tomcat-6-for-debian

> 
> Thanks for filing the doc bug.
No prob.  I wold have made the changes myself but wasn’t sure what the preferred solution for the above dependency should be.

> 
> Regards.
> 
<snip>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>.
Hi Carlos,

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that included
> in Wido's released versions?
>

This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware jars
and other non-oss stuff).


>
> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>

Yes :)


> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>  Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>

Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.

Thanks for filing the doc bug.

Regards.


>
> thanks,
> Carlos
>
> PS figured it would be good to change the subject of this thread....
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I can do that.
> > >
> > > My current install is from the repo
> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu.
> > >  Do you know if that is built with -Dnoredist? I would like to make
> sure
> > I
> > > build and package the same way.
> > >
> >
> > Wido maintains it and only hosts released versions of CloudStack and
> AFAIK
> > we don't have an active nightlies debian build repo for users.
> >
> > That means, you'll have to build from source which is not very hard to do
> > (you may even automate it):
> >
> > 1. Download the 4.4 branch zipball:
> >     https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/archive/4.4.zip
> >
> > 2. Follow this:
> >
> >
> >
> http://cloudstack-installation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/building_from_source.html#prerequisites-for-building-apache-cloudstack
> >
> > If you're stuck or have any issues reach out to the community, we're good
> > people :)
> >
> > @Wido: Hey! Can you start the nightlies again so users don't have to do
> > debian builds themselves?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
> creategui@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Daan,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not tried 4.3.  I saw some of the issues people were having
> > and
> > > > > decided to hold off from trying.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you suggest I try with 4.3 or should I build my own deb packages
> > and
> > > > > try 4.4?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW I am on ubuntu 12.04 + XenServer 6.0.2
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carlos, Daan is suggesting that you help us test our upcoming 4.4
> > release
> > > > :) using the 4.4 branch [1]
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/4.4
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Daan Hoogland <
> daan.hoogland@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Carlos, please export your db and do a test upgrade on a lab
> > machine?
> > > > > > Now is the time to solve any upgrade issues in 4.4.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried the 4.3 upgrade already?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > Daan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
> > > creategui@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Hi Rohit,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The awsapi was one of the reasons we chose to use ACS.  We have
> > > > > developed some internal tools and apps to manage our deployments on
> > AWS
> > > > > that we want to re-use on ACS.  We have not been able to use it yet
> > > > because
> > > > > it was broken in 4.1.1.  We tried to upgrade to 4.2 and were
> > > unsuccessful
> > > > > and are now waiting for 4.4 to finally upgrade and hopefully be
> able
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > the awsapi.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We use ACS internally for development and testing of our
> > > applications
> > > > > that we push to AWS.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> thanks,
> > > > > >> Carlos
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Who uses "awsapi" or any other EC2 compatible interface such as
> > > > > ec2stack
> > > > > >>> with CloudStack (or CloudStack distros such as Citrix
> > > CloudPlatform)
> > > > in
> > > > > >>> production? And, if marketing and publicity are/were big
> > > > motivation(s)?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> In case you don't want to discuss on this thread, please take
> > this
> > > > > >>> anonymous poll:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/fbyfdc/who-uses-awsapi-with-cloudstack-in-prouduction
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> # Some stats
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've been watching Collab14 videos and found references where
> > many
> > > > > speakers
> > > > > >>> reference overall CloudStack codebase to be about 1.5M
> (million)
> > > > lines
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>> Java code which is not "exactly" true. Let me share some
> > findings;
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> - As of today, CloudStack master is about 1.7M lines of Java
> code
> > > [1]
> > > > > >>> - CloudStack "awsapi" artifact is 1.04M lines of Java code [2]
> > > > > >>> - Code excluding "awsapi", tests and license/comment is about
> > 590k
> > > > > lines of
> > > > > >>> Java code [3]
> > > > > >>> - The core excluding plugins, api and the above is about 300k
> > lines
> > > > of
> > > > > Java
> > > > > >>> code [4]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Why should  I care:
> > > > > >>> - some useful/fun stats to keep in mind
> > > > > >>> - it's not a giant mammoth that cannot be fixed or developed
> upon
> > > > > >>> - encouraging for new developers that if they try they can
> > > understand
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>> fix it
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> FYI, this started on twitter yesterday:
> > > > > >>> https://twitter.com/_bhaisaab/status/479007075414974465
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> [1] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep java$ | xargs cat | wc
> -l
> > > > > >>> [2] cd cloudstack-repo && find awsapi | grep java$ | xargs cat
> |
> > wc
> > > > -l
> > > > > >>> [3] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
> > > [tT]est |
> > > > > grep
> > > > > >>> java$ | xargs cat | grep -v '^//' | wc -l
> > > > > >>> [4] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
> > > [Tt]est |
> > > > > grep
> > > > > >>> -v plugins | grep -v api | grep java$ | xargs cat | grep -v
> > '^//' |
> > > > wc
> > > > > -l
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Regards.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Daan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>.
Regarding my tomcat question in the previous email, I have built the .deb
files and noticed the dependency on tomcat6.  I am confused by the
statement in the build doc (
http://cloudstack-installation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/building_from_source.html)
to use 6.0.33 instead of 6.0.35.
This is not mentioned in the installation doc (
http://cloudstack-installation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installation.html).
 If you simply do the apt-get install of cloudstack it will install tomcat
6.0.35 since that is whats current in Ubuntu 12.04 (
http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/web/tomcat6).
So is this just a build dependency?

thanks
Carlos




On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that included
> in Wido's released versions?
>
> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>
> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>  Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>
> thanks,
> Carlos
>
> PS figured it would be good to change the subject of this thread....
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I can do that.
>> >
>> > My current install is from the repo http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu
>> .
>> >  Do you know if that is built with -Dnoredist? I would like to make
>> sure I
>> > build and package the same way.
>> >
>>
>> Wido maintains it and only hosts released versions of CloudStack and AFAIK
>> we don't have an active nightlies debian build repo for users.
>>
>> That means, you'll have to build from source which is not very hard to do
>> (you may even automate it):
>>
>> 1. Download the 4.4 branch zipball:
>>     https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/archive/4.4.zip
>>
>> 2. Follow this:
>>
>>
>> http://cloudstack-installation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/building_from_source.html#prerequisites-for-building-apache-cloudstack
>>
>> If you're stuck or have any issues reach out to the community, we're good
>> people :)
>>
>> @Wido: Hey! Can you start the nightlies again so users don't have to do
>> debian builds themselves?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
>> creategui@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Daan,
>> > > >
>> > > > I have not tried 4.3.  I saw some of the issues people were having
>> and
>> > > > decided to hold off from trying.
>> > > >
>> > > > Do you suggest I try with 4.3 or should I build my own deb packages
>> and
>> > > > try 4.4?
>> > > >
>> > > > BTW I am on ubuntu 12.04 + XenServer 6.0.2
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Carlos, Daan is suggesting that you help us test our upcoming 4.4
>> release
>> > > :) using the 4.4 branch [1]
>> > >
>> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/4.4
>> > >
>> > > Cheers.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Daan Hoogland <
>> daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Carlos, please export your db and do a test upgrade on a lab
>> machine?
>> > > > > Now is the time to solve any upgrade issues in 4.4.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Have you tried the 4.3 upgrade already?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > regards,
>> > > > > Daan
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
>> > creategui@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> Hi Rohit,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> The awsapi was one of the reasons we chose to use ACS.  We have
>> > > > developed some internal tools and apps to manage our deployments on
>> AWS
>> > > > that we want to re-use on ACS.  We have not been able to use it yet
>> > > because
>> > > > it was broken in 4.1.1.  We tried to upgrade to 4.2 and were
>> > unsuccessful
>> > > > and are now waiting for 4.4 to finally upgrade and hopefully be
>> able to
>> > > use
>> > > > the awsapi.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> We use ACS internally for development and testing of our
>> > applications
>> > > > that we push to AWS.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> thanks,
>> > > > >> Carlos
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>> Hi,
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Who uses "awsapi" or any other EC2 compatible interface such as
>> > > > ec2stack
>> > > > >>> with CloudStack (or CloudStack distros such as Citrix
>> > CloudPlatform)
>> > > in
>> > > > >>> production? And, if marketing and publicity are/were big
>> > > motivation(s)?
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> In case you don't want to discuss on this thread, please take
>> this
>> > > > >>> anonymous poll:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/fbyfdc/who-uses-awsapi-with-cloudstack-in-prouduction
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> # Some stats
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> I've been watching Collab14 videos and found references where
>> many
>> > > > speakers
>> > > > >>> reference overall CloudStack codebase to be about 1.5M (million)
>> > > lines
>> > > > of
>> > > > >>> Java code which is not "exactly" true. Let me share some
>> findings;
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> - As of today, CloudStack master is about 1.7M lines of Java
>> code
>> > [1]
>> > > > >>> - CloudStack "awsapi" artifact is 1.04M lines of Java code [2]
>> > > > >>> - Code excluding "awsapi", tests and license/comment is about
>> 590k
>> > > > lines of
>> > > > >>> Java code [3]
>> > > > >>> - The core excluding plugins, api and the above is about 300k
>> lines
>> > > of
>> > > > Java
>> > > > >>> code [4]
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Why should  I care:
>> > > > >>> - some useful/fun stats to keep in mind
>> > > > >>> - it's not a giant mammoth that cannot be fixed or developed
>> upon
>> > > > >>> - encouraging for new developers that if they try they can
>> > understand
>> > > > and
>> > > > >>> fix it
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> FYI, this started on twitter yesterday:
>> > > > >>> https://twitter.com/_bhaisaab/status/479007075414974465
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> [1] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep java$ | xargs cat | wc
>> -l
>> > > > >>> [2] cd cloudstack-repo && find awsapi | grep java$ | xargs cat
>> | wc
>> > > -l
>> > > > >>> [3] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
>> > [tT]est |
>> > > > grep
>> > > > >>> java$ | xargs cat | grep -v '^//' | wc -l
>> > > > >>> [4] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
>> > [Tt]est |
>> > > > grep
>> > > > >>> -v plugins | grep -v api | grep java$ | xargs cat | grep -v
>> '^//' |
>> > > wc
>> > > > -l
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Regards.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Daan
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: building and testing 4.4.

Posted by Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>.
Hi Carlos,

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
wrote:

> Hi Rohit,
> Thanks for the info, but I was asking about the non-oss.  Is that included
> in Wido's released versions?
>

This is oss (I checked the 4.3 release debs, and could not find vmware jars
and other non-oss stuff).


>
> I'm assuming the zip file you linked below will give me the same as:
> git checkout remotes/origin/4.4
>

Yes :)


> Also, what is the issue with tomcat 6.0.35?  I just noticed that my
> Management Server is running the default Ubuntu tomcat6 which is 6.0.35.
>  Are all versions of CloudStack affected?
>

Historically we've been using 6.0.33, we need to revisit it. For now I
would recommend you to use Tomcat 6.0.33.

Thanks for filing the doc bug.

Regards.


>
> thanks,
> Carlos
>
> PS figured it would be good to change the subject of this thread....
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Carlos Reategui <ca...@reategui.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I can do that.
> > >
> > > My current install is from the repo
> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu.
> > >  Do you know if that is built with -Dnoredist? I would like to make
> sure
> > I
> > > build and package the same way.
> > >
> >
> > Wido maintains it and only hosts released versions of CloudStack and
> AFAIK
> > we don't have an active nightlies debian build repo for users.
> >
> > That means, you'll have to build from source which is not very hard to do
> > (you may even automate it):
> >
> > 1. Download the 4.4 branch zipball:
> >     https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/archive/4.4.zip
> >
> > 2. Follow this:
> >
> >
> >
> http://cloudstack-installation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/building_from_source.html#prerequisites-for-building-apache-cloudstack
> >
> > If you're stuck or have any issues reach out to the community, we're good
> > people :)
> >
> > @Wido: Hey! Can you start the nightlies again so users don't have to do
> > debian builds themselves?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
> creategui@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Daan,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not tried 4.3.  I saw some of the issues people were having
> > and
> > > > > decided to hold off from trying.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you suggest I try with 4.3 or should I build my own deb packages
> > and
> > > > > try 4.4?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW I am on ubuntu 12.04 + XenServer 6.0.2
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carlos, Daan is suggesting that you help us test our upcoming 4.4
> > release
> > > > :) using the 4.4 branch [1]
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/4.4
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Daan Hoogland <
> daan.hoogland@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Carlos, please export your db and do a test upgrade on a lab
> > machine?
> > > > > > Now is the time to solve any upgrade issues in 4.4.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried the 4.3 upgrade already?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > Daan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Carlos Reátegui <
> > > creategui@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Hi Rohit,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The awsapi was one of the reasons we chose to use ACS.  We have
> > > > > developed some internal tools and apps to manage our deployments on
> > AWS
> > > > > that we want to re-use on ACS.  We have not been able to use it yet
> > > > because
> > > > > it was broken in 4.1.1.  We tried to upgrade to 4.2 and were
> > > unsuccessful
> > > > > and are now waiting for 4.4 to finally upgrade and hopefully be
> able
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > the awsapi.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We use ACS internally for development and testing of our
> > > applications
> > > > > that we push to AWS.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> thanks,
> > > > > >> Carlos
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Rohit Yadav <bh...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Who uses "awsapi" or any other EC2 compatible interface such as
> > > > > ec2stack
> > > > > >>> with CloudStack (or CloudStack distros such as Citrix
> > > CloudPlatform)
> > > > in
> > > > > >>> production? And, if marketing and publicity are/were big
> > > > motivation(s)?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> In case you don't want to discuss on this thread, please take
> > this
> > > > > >>> anonymous poll:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/fbyfdc/who-uses-awsapi-with-cloudstack-in-prouduction
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> # Some stats
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've been watching Collab14 videos and found references where
> > many
> > > > > speakers
> > > > > >>> reference overall CloudStack codebase to be about 1.5M
> (million)
> > > > lines
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>> Java code which is not "exactly" true. Let me share some
> > findings;
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> - As of today, CloudStack master is about 1.7M lines of Java
> code
> > > [1]
> > > > > >>> - CloudStack "awsapi" artifact is 1.04M lines of Java code [2]
> > > > > >>> - Code excluding "awsapi", tests and license/comment is about
> > 590k
> > > > > lines of
> > > > > >>> Java code [3]
> > > > > >>> - The core excluding plugins, api and the above is about 300k
> > lines
> > > > of
> > > > > Java
> > > > > >>> code [4]
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Why should  I care:
> > > > > >>> - some useful/fun stats to keep in mind
> > > > > >>> - it's not a giant mammoth that cannot be fixed or developed
> upon
> > > > > >>> - encouraging for new developers that if they try they can
> > > understand
> > > > > and
> > > > > >>> fix it
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> FYI, this started on twitter yesterday:
> > > > > >>> https://twitter.com/_bhaisaab/status/479007075414974465
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> [1] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep java$ | xargs cat | wc
> -l
> > > > > >>> [2] cd cloudstack-repo && find awsapi | grep java$ | xargs cat
> |
> > wc
> > > > -l
> > > > > >>> [3] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
> > > [tT]est |
> > > > > grep
> > > > > >>> java$ | xargs cat | grep -v '^//' | wc -l
> > > > > >>> [4] cd cloudstack-repo && find . | grep -v awsapi | grep -v
> > > [Tt]est |
> > > > > grep
> > > > > >>> -v plugins | grep -v api | grep java$ | xargs cat | grep -v
> > '^//' |
> > > > wc
> > > > > -l
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Regards.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Daan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>