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Posted to diversity@apache.org by Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com> on 2020/06/09 16:31:31 UTC
Naming branches "master"
I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but someone
brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing that....
In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every repo...?
Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Andrew Musselman <an...@gmail.com>.
:)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 20:38 Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can use the word "trunk" like Apache Subversion does. :)
>
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 18:12, Andrew Musselman
> <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:09 PM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yea- I think as Rich said on the whitelist/blacklist thread- its more
> about
> > > making it more welcoming for one committer than being technically
> correct
> > > on the etymology of the word "master" as it pertains to the "master
> > > branch".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:41 PM Andrew Musselman <
> > > andrew.musselman@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We're discussing it now on Mahout. It's possible that something like
> > > > `prod_ready` would be more meaningful, if a project wanted to move
> off
> > > that
> > > > language.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 to Naomi's interpretation.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in
> the
> > > > sense
> > > > > > of a "master record" (version control) are two independent
> senses of
> > > > the
> > > > > > same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <
> > > > > > https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <
> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist,
> but
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > > brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were
> discussing
> > > > > > that....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone
> doing
> > > > > > > anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about
> every
> > > > > > repo...?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>
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Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
You can use the word "trunk" like Apache Subversion does. :)
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 18:12, Andrew Musselman
<an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:09 PM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yea- I think as Rich said on the whitelist/blacklist thread- its more about
> > making it more welcoming for one committer than being technically correct
> > on the etymology of the word "master" as it pertains to the "master
> > branch".
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:41 PM Andrew Musselman <
> > andrew.musselman@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We're discussing it now on Mahout. It's possible that something like
> > > `prod_ready` would be more meaningful, if a project wanted to move off
> > that
> > > language.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 to Naomi's interpretation.
> > > > --
> > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in the
> > > sense
> > > > > of a "master record" (version control) are two independent senses of
> > > the
> > > > > same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
> > > > >
> > > > > cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <
> > > > > https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but
> > > > someone
> > > > > > brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing
> > > > > that....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> > > > > > anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every
> > > > > repo...?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
--
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Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Andrew Musselman <an...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:09 PM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yea- I think as Rich said on the whitelist/blacklist thread- its more about
> making it more welcoming for one committer than being technically correct
> on the etymology of the word "master" as it pertains to the "master
> branch".
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:41 PM Andrew Musselman <
> andrew.musselman@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We're discussing it now on Mahout. It's possible that something like
> > `prod_ready` would be more meaningful, if a project wanted to move off
> that
> > language.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to Naomi's interpretation.
> > > --
> > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in the
> > sense
> > > > of a "master record" (version control) are two independent senses of
> > the
> > > > same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
> > > >
> > > > cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <
> > > > https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
> > > >
> > > > I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
> > > >
> > > > > On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but
> > > someone
> > > > > brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing
> > > > that....
> > > > >
> > > > > In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> > > > > anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every
> > > > repo...?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>.
Yea- I think as Rich said on the whitelist/blacklist thread- its more about
making it more welcoming for one committer than being technically correct
on the etymology of the word "master" as it pertains to the "master
branch".
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:41 PM Andrew Musselman <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> We're discussing it now on Mahout. It's possible that something like
> `prod_ready` would be more meaningful, if a project wanted to move off that
> language.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 to Naomi's interpretation.
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in the
> sense
> > > of a "master record" (version control) are two independent senses of
> the
> > > same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
> > >
> > > cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <
> > > https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
> > >
> > > I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
> > >
> > > > On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but
> > someone
> > > > brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing
> > > that....
> > > >
> > > > In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> > > > anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every
> > > repo...?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Andrew Musselman <an...@gmail.com>.
We're discussing it now on Mahout. It's possible that something like
`prod_ready` would be more meaningful, if a project wanted to move off that
language.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
wrote:
> +1 to Naomi's interpretation.
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in the sense
> > of a "master record" (version control) are two independent senses of the
> > same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
> >
> > cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <
> > https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
> >
> > I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
> >
> > > On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but
> someone
> > > brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing
> > that....
> > >
> > > In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> > > anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every
> > repo...?
> >
> >
>
Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
+1 to Naomi's interpretation.
--
Kevin A. McGrail
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:02 PM Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in the sense
> of a "master record" (version control) are two independent senses of the
> same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
>
> cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <
> https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
>
> I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
>
> > On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but someone
> > brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing
> that....
> >
> > In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> > anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every
> repo...?
>
>
Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Naomi Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
master in "master/slave" (distributed computing) and master in the sense of a "master record" (version control) are two independent senses of the same word (senses 2.d and 10.b in the OED, respectively)
cf. https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751 <https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/114751>
I believe the issue is with the former and not the latter
> On 9 Jun 2020, at 18:31, Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but someone
> brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing that....
>
> In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every repo...?
Re: Naming branches "master"
Posted by Gavin McDonald <gm...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:31 PM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I decided to break this thread off from blacklist/whitelist, but someone
> brought this up on the Streams slack channel as we were discussing that....
>
> In removing "master/slave" terminology from tech... is anyone doing
> anything with the 'master' branches which exist in just about every
> repo...?
>
'master' is just another branch name, nothing special about it, other than
the default protection
rules infra has in place. Some projects have 'develop' as their default.
It's up to the projects currently
what they use as default. Not advocating any change here or not, but
technically it isn't a blocker
to choose another default.
Gav...