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Minimal server.xml
Hi,
IMHO the server.xml that comes with tomcat by default
($CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml) is nice in that it provides many
comments and examples. But I think power users would appreciate a
minimal version as well, so I've created one, as shown below. Should we
distribute something like this, perhaps as
$CATALINA_HOME/conf/server-minimal.xml?
<Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0">
<Service name="Catalina">
<Connector port="8080"
maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="1" maxSpareThreads="75"
enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443"
acceptCount="100"
debug="0" connectionTimeout="20000"
disableUploadTimeout="true" />
<Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost" debug="0">
<Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
prefix="catalina_log." suffix=".txt"
timestamp="true"/>
<Host name="localhost" debug="0" appBase="webapps"
unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">
<Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
directory="logs" prefix="localhost_log." suffix=".txt"
timestamp="true"/>
</Host>
</Engine>
</Service>
</Server>
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Bob Herrmann <bo...@jadn.com>.
Sounds like a good idea to me. I would recommend removing the "Logger"
and just letting the output go into catalina.out
-bob
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 12:18, Shapira, Yoav wrote:
> Hi,
> IMHO the server.xml that comes with tomcat by default
> ($CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml) is nice in that it provides many
> comments and examples. But I think power users would appreciate a
> minimal version as well, so I've created one, as shown below. Should we
> distribute something like this, perhaps as
> $CATALINA_HOME/conf/server-minimal.xml?
>
> <Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0">
> <Service name="Catalina">
> <Connector port="8080"
> maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="1" maxSpareThreads="75"
> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443"
> acceptCount="100"
> debug="0" connectionTimeout="20000"
> disableUploadTimeout="true" />
>
> <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost" debug="0">
> <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
> prefix="catalina_log." suffix=".txt"
> timestamp="true"/>
>
> <Host name="localhost" debug="0" appBase="webapps"
> unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
> xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">
> <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
> directory="logs" prefix="localhost_log." suffix=".txt"
> timestamp="true"/>
>
> </Host>
>
> </Engine>
>
> </Service>
>
> </Server>
>
>
> Yoav Shapira
> Millennium ChemInformatics
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Dan Johnsson <da...@omegapoint.se>.
> Dan Johnsson wrote:
>> I would even suggest distribute something like this as the ordinary
>> server.xml, and rename the other as server-examples.xml.
>> /.../
>> So examples are great, but I think they should be elsewhere than in
>> the production config file.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> This does sound like vallid points.
>
> However, we would have to add an AJP connector to the mix so that the
> "minimal" config is out of the box compatible with the current default
> config.
Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.
> We would need a realm as well.
Most probably: without one it will be hard for the beginners to use the
manager app, something they definately want to do. (Or is it enough that
the settings needed (realm, add user, etc) are described in the
Management HOW-TO?
Dan Johnsson
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Dan Johnsson <da...@omegapoint.se>.
On logging:
The suggested server-minimal.xml does only contain a Logging-tag that
makes no use of the special features (thus only logging to catalina.out,
making the tag redundant, nicht Wahr?).
To compensate for the lack of "out of the box" features, we should add
brief HOW-TO:s. I volunteer to do one on e g logging.
Bob Herrmann wrote:
> I am +1 on this as well.
>
> Again, I recommend removing the Logging tag. Tomcat's ability to log to
> many different places (Rolling logs for each web applications, etc...)
> is a good thing for an enterprise product, but most newbies just want to
> see the stack trace that corresponds with an error page they just saw.
> Without any Logging tags, all messages go to catalina.out just like the
> start up message says.
>
> Cheers,
> -bob
>
> On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:43, Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
>>Dan Johnsson wrote:
>>
>>>+1
>>>
>>>I would even suggest distribute something like this as the ordinary
>>>server.xml, and rename the other as server-examples.xml.
>>>
>>>Why? I do most of my tomcat-work with "initial" users, i e either
>>>students taking classes or people doing their first installation. They
>>>are not helped by the "rich" server.xml as they do not yet grasp all the
>>>concepts. To them it would be a lot better to start with a small
>>>server.xml and then add features as they understand them.
>>>
>>>And the power-users? Well, they usually think the server.xml is
>>>cluttered with all those examples they already understand.
>>>
>>>So examples are great, but I think they should be elsewhere than in the
>>>production config file.
>>
>>This does sound like vallid points.
>>
>>However, we would have to add an AJP connector to the mix so that the
>>"minimal" config is out of the box compatible with the current default
>>config.
>>We would need a realm as well.
>>
>>Rémy
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Bob Herrmann <bo...@jadn.com>.
I am +1 on this as well.
Again, I recommend removing the Logging tag. Tomcat's ability to log to
many different places (Rolling logs for each web applications, etc...)
is a good thing for an enterprise product, but most newbies just want to
see the stack trace that corresponds with an error page they just saw.
Without any Logging tags, all messages go to catalina.out just like the
start up message says.
Cheers,
-bob
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:43, Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Dan Johnsson wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I would even suggest distribute something like this as the ordinary
> > server.xml, and rename the other as server-examples.xml.
> >
> > Why? I do most of my tomcat-work with "initial" users, i e either
> > students taking classes or people doing their first installation. They
> > are not helped by the "rich" server.xml as they do not yet grasp all the
> > concepts. To them it would be a lot better to start with a small
> > server.xml and then add features as they understand them.
> >
> > And the power-users? Well, they usually think the server.xml is
> > cluttered with all those examples they already understand.
> >
> > So examples are great, but I think they should be elsewhere than in the
> > production config file.
>
> This does sound like vallid points.
>
> However, we would have to add an AJP connector to the mix so that the
> "minimal" config is out of the box compatible with the current default
> config.
> We would need a realm as well.
>
> Rémy
>
>
>
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Dan Johnsson wrote:
> +1
>
> I would even suggest distribute something like this as the ordinary
> server.xml, and rename the other as server-examples.xml.
>
> Why? I do most of my tomcat-work with "initial" users, i e either
> students taking classes or people doing their first installation. They
> are not helped by the "rich" server.xml as they do not yet grasp all the
> concepts. To them it would be a lot better to start with a small
> server.xml and then add features as they understand them.
>
> And the power-users? Well, they usually think the server.xml is
> cluttered with all those examples they already understand.
>
> So examples are great, but I think they should be elsewhere than in the
> production config file.
This does sound like vallid points.
However, we would have to add an AJP connector to the mix so that the
"minimal" config is out of the box compatible with the current default
config.
We would need a realm as well.
Rémy
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Dan Johnsson <da...@omegapoint.se>.
+1
I would even suggest distribute something like this as the ordinary
server.xml, and rename the other as server-examples.xml.
Why? I do most of my tomcat-work with "initial" users, i e either
students taking classes or people doing their first installation. They
are not helped by the "rich" server.xml as they do not yet grasp all the
concepts. To them it would be a lot better to start with a small
server.xml and then add features as they understand them.
And the power-users? Well, they usually think the server.xml is
cluttered with all those examples they already understand.
So examples are great, but I think they should be elsewhere than in the
production config file.
Dan Johnsson
Jeanfrancois Arcand wrote:
> +1
>
> You can also remove the xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false",
> since they are optionals.
>
> -- Jeanfrancois
>
>
> Shapira, Yoav wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> IMHO the server.xml that comes with tomcat by default
>> ($CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml) is nice in that it provides many
>> comments and examples. But I think power users would appreciate a
>> minimal version as well, so I've created one, as shown below. Should we
>> distribute something like this, perhaps as
>> $CATALINA_HOME/conf/server-minimal.xml?
>>
>> <Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0">
>> <Service name="Catalina">
>> <Connector port="8080"
>> maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="1" maxSpareThreads="75"
>> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443"
>> acceptCount="100"
>> debug="0" connectionTimeout="20000"
>> disableUploadTimeout="true" />
>>
>> <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost" debug="0">
>> <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
>> prefix="catalina_log." suffix=".txt"
>> timestamp="true"/>
>>
>> <Host name="localhost" debug="0" appBase="webapps"
>> unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
>> xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">
>> <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
>> directory="logs" prefix="localhost_log." suffix=".txt"
>> timestamp="true"/>
>>
>> </Host>
>>
>> </Engine>
>>
>> </Service>
>>
>> </Server>
>>
>>
>> Yoav Shapira
>> Millennium ChemInformatics
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Minimal server.xml
Posted by Jeanfrancois Arcand <jf...@apache.org>.
+1
You can also remove the xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false",
since they are optionals.
-- Jeanfrancois
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
>Hi,
>IMHO the server.xml that comes with tomcat by default
>($CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml) is nice in that it provides many
>comments and examples. But I think power users would appreciate a
>minimal version as well, so I've created one, as shown below. Should we
>distribute something like this, perhaps as
>$CATALINA_HOME/conf/server-minimal.xml?
>
><Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0">
> <Service name="Catalina">
> <Connector port="8080"
> maxThreads="150" minSpareThreads="1" maxSpareThreads="75"
> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443"
>acceptCount="100"
> debug="0" connectionTimeout="20000"
> disableUploadTimeout="true" />
>
> <Engine name="Catalina" defaultHost="localhost" debug="0">
> <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
> prefix="catalina_log." suffix=".txt"
> timestamp="true"/>
>
> <Host name="localhost" debug="0" appBase="webapps"
> unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
> xmlValidation="false" xmlNamespaceAware="false">
> <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
> directory="logs" prefix="localhost_log." suffix=".txt"
> timestamp="true"/>
>
> </Host>
>
> </Engine>
>
> </Service>
>
></Server>
>
>
>Yoav Shapira
>Millennium ChemInformatics
>
>
>
>
>
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