[Axis2] Chat log on 2nd March 2005

[Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com>]

This is the first chat after the "post M1 relax period" and hence not
much preperation . So except for a few thingsb about WSDL all others
were issues related to M1.


[19:02]  ***  Axis2 post-M1 work
[19:03]<Ajith> Hi all
[19:03]<Srinath> What should we do for post M1?
[19:03]<Ajith> Ready to start ?
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[19:04]<Ajith> BTW any comments about the Axis M1 release
[19:04]<Ajith> ?
[19:04]<Jaliya> Hi all
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[19:05]<Harsha> I haven't got beyond the first step with it!!
[19:05]<Srinath> what happen to that build prob
[19:05]<Harsha> Remains unresolved todate
[19:06]<Ajith> hmmmm
[19:06]<Ajith> thats quite a prob !!!!
[19:06]<Harsha> We can talk about it offline
[19:06]<Ajith> sure
[19:06]<Ajith> send a private mail
[19:07]<Harsha> I also couldn't validate the installation. That is
using the WAR.
[19:07]<Harsha> I did send you guys an email about it.
[19:08]<sanjiva> hi guys ..
[19:08]<Ajith> Hi
[19:08]<alek_s> Hello!
[19:08]<sanjiva> I doubt Glen will join today because there's a W3C
meeting today (I'm at it too)
[19:08]<sanjiva> Hi Alek!
[19:08]<Ajith> Harsha : will check that and let you know
[19:08]<Harsha> Ajith: Thanks
[19:09]<Srinath> what should we dig into today
[19:09]<Srinath> encoding? our big topic
[19:10]<alek_s> did somebody put agenda? http://wiki.apache.org/ws/ChatAgenda
[19:10]<alek_s> it is good idea to send such thing few days before meeting ...
[19:10]<Ajith> Alek : yeah but we were at a "post-release period" :)
[19:10]<alek_s> (makes meetings more productive, people more prepared)
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[19:10]<alek_s> ;-)
[19:11]<Srinath> :)
[19:11]<sanjiva> +1 for post-release relax period ;-)
[19:11]<Ajith> and did not think far into the future 
[19:11]<Srinath> :)
[19:11]<alek_s> M1 looks good (after fresh SVN checkout it seems it
worked for me)
[19:12]<Ajith> Alek :  how about the interop ?
[19:12]<alek_s> i have not yet digged into code
[19:12]<Srinath> :) try thre branch for M1.. we might do new commit soon
[19:12]<Srinath> what would be future with WOM and wooden
[19:13]<Srinath> ? 
[19:14]<sanjiva> we need to sort that out .. woden will take some time
to come together but we need the wsdl2 model. so as soon as that -dev
list is up let's work out the timing and other logistics.
[19:15]<sanjiva> would be good if someone (chathura?) were to write up
what we've done so far and our requirements from the wsdl2 model
[19:15]<Srinath> sir .. for the time been we will stick to wom?
[19:16]<Ajith> Actually my suggestion was to stick in woden just like wsdl4j
[19:16]<Ajith> so that we work with WOM
[19:16]<Ajith> all the way
[19:16]<sanjiva> isn't wom = woden tho?
[19:17]<Srinath> I think we should get parameters like mep from the
deployment parameters till things cleared
[19:17]<Srinath> yap I think wom = woden :)
[19:17]<Ajith> yeah so then WOM just becomes an unncecessary burden
[19:17]<Srinath> has woden has code now ..?
[19:17]<Ajith> too bad for Chathura
[19:20]<sanjiva> not the whole thing .. the base model is unnecessary
but the layer on top is needed. and maybe chathura can contrib to
woden too (he should become a committer there) - they know that
there's a wsdl2 codebase here
[19:20]<Ajith> oh then its going to be  a joint effort :)
[19:20]<Ajith> thats good
[19:24]<Ajith> Yooo hoooo
[19:24]<Srinath> may be we have to leave out the code generator from M2
[19:24]<Ajith> What???
[19:25]<Srinath> too many things will be on hold .. unless we have
some woden code avalible
[19:26]<Ajith> hmmm WSDL is needed for code gen.
[19:26]<Srinath> we can choose to try to work hard on other things ..
if there are enough?
[19:26]<sanjiva> exactly - so we can't do that .. that's why we need
to do a joint effort and get the timing right; our plans cannot wait
for woden to get ready; we need to work with them to make it work all
the way around
[19:26]<Srinath> and more or less for the encoding
[19:27]<sanjiva> guys I have to go .. sorry to rush off :-(. I'll read
the log later.
[19:27]<Ajith> ok
[19:27]<Srinath> yes :) what is the state of wodden does the mailing
list svn set up?
[19:27]<Srinath> ok sir 
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[19:27]<sanjiva> Is someone looking at chamil's mtom stuff btw? we
should try to get that in as a starting poing for m1
[19:28]<Chamil> ?
[19:28]<Ajith> its actually Thilina who's doing the MTOM
[19:28]<chathura> Hi sorry im late , got hung up in the traffic
[19:28]<sanjiva> oh sorry :-( .. yes I meant Thilina
[19:28]<sanjiva> what about chamil's smtp transport?
[19:28]<sanjiva> that too should be committed if its ok!
[19:28]<Srinath> we will get it in :)
[19:28]<Ajith> it needs some brush up but quite ok i guess
[19:29]<Chamil> i am going to redo what i did before so that it is
more presentable
[19:29]<sanjiva> ok :-) now bye really
[19:29]<Srinath> :)
[19:29]<Srinath> how about a module for tranports ?
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[19:30]<Ajith> You mean you need to set up transports as a different entity
[19:30]<Chinthaka> at last :(
[19:30]<Srinath> create a new module for tranports
[19:31]<Ajith> seems good to me
[19:32]<Ajith> I mean you can keep the transport seperated from the core, right?
[19:32]<Srinath> I will drop a mail on it 
[19:32]<chathura> yah we already have two transports(almost) 
[19:33]<Srinath> yes .. and need long list of jars when smtp hop in
[19:34]<Ajith> so then having transport seperate is better
[19:34]<Srinath> I like ppl able to exclude it if they do not like it
[19:34]<Srinath> I mean not work on it
[19:35]<Ajith> BTW anybody has a clear idea how the SOAP message maps
to  a mail message
[19:35]<Chinthaka> well, that means we can have module specific jars
for transport, which all the people might not need to download
[19:35]<Ajith> I mean where the SOAP action goes and so on
[19:35]<Srinath> chinthaka:that what I mean
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[19:41]<Srinath> are we done 4 the day?
[19:41]<Chinthaka> seems like no body is talking, is it all for the day ? ;)
[19:41]<Ajith> BTW guys do we have anything secific to discuss now
[19:41]<Ajith> i meant specific
[19:42]<Ajith> If not we can wind up for today ;)
[19:42]<chathura> think lets call it a day and srinath lets put the
module thingy for transport in the mailing list
[19:42]<Srinath> sure
[19:42]<chathura> cool good night guys
[19:42]<chathura> Bye
[19:43]<Jaliya> bye
[19:43]<Harsha> bye guys
[19:43]<Chinthaka> byeeee
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[19:43]<Chamil> bye
[19:43]<Ajith> BTW we should be better prepared for the next time guys
[19:43]<Chinthaka> Ajith will post the chat log ;)
[19:44]<Ajith> I will send in the chat log
[19:44]<Ajith> sure
[19:44]<Ajith> :)
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[19:44]<Chinthaka> ALEK !!!!
[19:44]<Ajith> oops we were about to wind up
[19:44]<Srinath> oops alek ppl just start to diaappaer
[19:44]<alek_s> did anybody tried service uload with Firefox 1.0
[19:44]<Ajith> I guess so
[19:44]<alek_s> it crashed Firefox (including my ChatZilla session)
[19:44]<Chinthaka> yes
[19:45]<Ajith> most guys here use FF
[19:45]<Srinath> oh
[19:45]<Chinthaka> what a nice way to crash things
[19:45]<Chinthaka> Axis can crash ChatZilla :D
[19:45]<Srinath> I tried it I think .. will never agien :)
[19:45]<alek_s> i did it twice just to verify both with sample1.jar
and sample1WithHandler.jar
[19:45]<alek_s> yes it did ... strange
[19:46]<Srinath> r u on unix
[19:46]<Srinath> ?
[19:46]<Ajith> Hmmmm
[19:46]<alek_s> windows xp
[19:46]<Ajith> I am on IE still but never crashed
[19:46]<Ajith> Chinthaka you are on FF right
[19:46]<Ajith> I mean on Windows
[19:46]<Chinthaka> Ajith, yes
[19:47]<Srinath> I tried it in Linux
[19:47]<Chinthaka> Yeah, I did that without a prob 
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[19:47]<alek_s> strange ...
[19:47]<alek_s> for now i will just copy jar file manually
[19:47]<Chinthaka> I have Win XP with SP2 + FF 1.0
[19:48]<alek_s> my config is the same
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[19:48]<alek_s> maybe some of firefox plugins ...
[19:48]<Ajith> hmmmm
[19:48]<alek_s> could somebody send irc chat log?
[19:48]<Ajith> sure
[19:48]<Chinthaka> well, I also have all sort of FF plugins
[19:48]<alek_s> and put it into wiki
[19:48]<Ajith> Will do
[19:49]<alek_s> BTW: i am not sure why but i had to set
AXIS_HOME=C:\Offnet\jakarta-tomcat\jakarta-tomcat-4.1.29\webapps\axis2
[19:49]<alek_s> otherise samples ant compile does nto work
[19:50]<alek_s> so maybe i had the services already deployed and it
was re-deploying that killed it
[19:50]<Ajith> thats unlikely
[19:50]<alek_s> how to enable logs on server side axis2?
[19:50]<alek_s> so i could send what was happening?
[19:51]<Chinthaka> well I got to go
[19:51]<Ajith> use the log4j.config file
[19:51]<Ajith> its in axis2/web-inf/classes
[19:51]<Chinthaka> BTW, Alek try to come to next f2f
[19:51]<Srinath> :)
[19:51]<Ajith> BTW you have to set AXIS_HOME to run the samples
[19:51]<chathura> well i just tried the upload on firefox on xp  did
work fine for me though
[19:52]<Ajith> Its mentioned in the usergiude I guess
[19:53]<chathura> well AXIS_HOME is set  because it will look up for
the jars from that location
[19:53]<chathura> plus there is ant deploy task that is intended to
deploy the services
[19:54]<alek_s> i will see if i can come but chnaces are inimal
[19:54]<Ajith> :(
[19:54]<Chinthaka> Ohh, :(
[19:54]<alek_s> AXIS_HOME is a bit confusing name to refere to AXIS2
webapps location
[19:54]<Chinthaka> well then catch u all later, byee all
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[19:55]<alek_s> ok
[19:55]<Ajith> Chathura - It was your terminology :D
[19:55]<alek_s> i send my q to mauling list
[19:55]<Ajith> you meant mailing right?
[19:55]<Srinath> :)
[19:55]<Ajith> :)
[19:55]<alek_s> i can see in screenshot that it is indeed set to tomcat location
[19:56]<alek_s> mailing
[19:56]<alek_s> :-)
[19:56]<Chamil> bye all
[19:56]<chathura> yah i guess: but i'm confused about why you got confused
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[19:56]<chathura> i mean about AXIS_HOME
[19:58]<alek_s> AXIS_HOME typically means top directory for AXIS source tree
[19:58]<alek_s> that is what i believe it is in AXIS C++
[19:59]<Ajith> Well I guess it had to go with the CATALINA_HOME
concept in tomcat
[19:59]<Ajith> It refers to the tomcat install dir
[20:00]<alek_s> calling it AXIS2_WEBAPP or soemthing like that would
be less confusing it have to points to location where is axis2.war
content
[20:00]<Ajith> like that we refer to axis install dir by AXIS_HOME
[20:00]<alek_s> especially tha you depend in build.xml on existence of WEB-INF
[20:00]<Srinath> that cool i think
[20:00]<Ajith> I guess we can change it 
[20:00]<Srinath> make it more obivous
[20:01]<Ajith> BTW guys its getting late
[20:01]<chathura> sounds ok but my idea was similar to that of
ajith(the CATALINA_HOME analogy)
[20:02]<Ajith> I need to catch something to eat
[20:02]<alek_s> ok
[20:02]<chathura> ajith : yah lets discuss any issues in the mailing list
[20:02]<alek_s> bye
[20:02]<chathura> see you 
[20:02]<Srinath> bye
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[20:02]<Ajith> byeee
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Ajith Ranabahu