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[FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a notification
message.
Don't understand it.
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Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <ce...@baseBeans.com>.
James Mitchell wrote:
>
> If you don't like Outlook features, stop using Outlook.
>
+1.
Outlook also spreads viruses.
I use Mozilla based mail client (Netscape, etc.) and have less of a need
to run any virus checkers, becuase it's just a better mail client.
.V
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RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Yansheng Lin <ya...@isogis.com>.
The thing I don't understand is why you would want a receipt at the first place.
Anticipating a refund?
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From: Norm Deane [mailto:norm.deane@vanderbilt.edu]
Sent: November 7, 2003 12:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Or turn that "feature" off. In Outlook 2002 you can set it to never send a
receipt. By default it will ask if you want to send one.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
>
> >
> > It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a
> > notification message.
> >
> > Don't understand it.
>
> If you don't like Outlook features, stop using Outlook.
>
> >
> >
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RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Norm Deane <no...@vanderbilt.edu>.
Or turn that "feature" off. In Outlook 2002 you can set it to never send a
receipt. By default it will ask if you want to send one.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:48 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
>
> >
> > It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a
> > notification message.
> >
> > Don't understand it.
>
> If you don't like Outlook features, stop using Outlook.
>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
On 11/07/2003 09:31 PM David Graham wrote:
>> I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing
>> list software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from
>> the mails it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
>
>
> You want Jakarta to change its processes to accomodate your use of a
> poorly written email client? Not likely...
Wow that's a bit harsh. Firstly if you think my email client is poorly
written, you're ... oh hold on, you're right. I can set my
return-receipt handling per email account. What I said before about it
being an application-wide setting was wrong. Sorry.
However despite being wrong about that point, it still would make sense
to strip off that header because, regardless of the email client
software of the listers, that header is useless and anybody using it was
doing so only by mistake. Although in our broadband era it's probably
insignificant, all those return-receipts flying around is a waste of
band-width.
Adam
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Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
On 11/07/2003 09:38 PM Mike Jasnowski wrote:
> Or better yet, why not just write an Outlook add-in that strips the header
> for you.
>
> --- Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
>>I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing list
>>software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from the mails
>>it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
>
>
> You want Jakarta to change its processes to accomodate your use of a
> poorly written email client? Not likely...
>
Alright alright I give up, I was wrong, but for crying out loud, I use
mozilla and was making a point that doesn't have anything to do with
which client I use, which is why I didn't mention it.
Adam
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RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Mike Jasnowski <mj...@bea.com>.
Or better yet, why not just write an Outlook add-in that strips the header
for you.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:32 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
--- Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> On 11/07/2003 09:13 PM Yansheng Lin wrote:
> > That's not the point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> > Sent: November 7, 2003 12:48 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a
> notification
> >>message.
>
> Actually I know what you mean and I find it slightly annoying having to
> hit "tab - return" to get rid of the confirm dialog box, and the problem
>
> is that I cannot turn off the configuration option because that turns it
>
> off for the whole application and I need it set 'on' for my personal
> email account, but 'off' for my list accounts like this one.
>
> I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing list
> software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from the mails
>
> it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
You want Jakarta to change its processes to accomodate your use of a
poorly written email client? Not likely...
David
>
> Adam
>
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RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Yansheng Lin <ya...@isogis.com>.
+1
That's the whole point of my posting. Why do you need to turn it on when you
post to a public mailing list?!!! I never turn it on when I do a post here.
Don't understand why a lot of people are trying to defend/protect such
inconsideration.
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Dunn [mailto:greg.dunn@mo.nisc.cc]
Sent: November 7, 2003 1:45 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Not everyone gets to choose which email client they use. Even here in the
open source Java community. The answer is if you want to post to the list
turn off the "Ask for a receipt for every message I send" option and don't
request.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
--- Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> On 11/07/2003 09:13 PM Yansheng Lin wrote:
> > That's not the point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> > Sent: November 7, 2003 12:48 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a
> notification
> >>message.
>
> Actually I know what you mean and I find it slightly annoying having to
> hit "tab - return" to get rid of the confirm dialog box, and the problem
>
> is that I cannot turn off the configuration option because that turns it
>
> off for the whole application and I need it set 'on' for my personal
> email account, but 'off' for my list accounts like this one.
>
> I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing list
> software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from the mails
>
> it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
You want Jakarta to change its processes to accomodate your use of a
poorly written email client? Not likely...
David
>
> Adam
>
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RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Greg Dunn <gr...@mo.nisc.cc>.
Not everyone gets to choose which email client they use. Even here in the
open source Java community. The answer is if you want to post to the list
turn off the "Ask for a receipt for every message I send" option and don't
request.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
--- Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> On 11/07/2003 09:13 PM Yansheng Lin wrote:
> > That's not the point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> > Sent: November 7, 2003 12:48 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a
> notification
> >>message.
>
> Actually I know what you mean and I find it slightly annoying having to
> hit "tab - return" to get rid of the confirm dialog box, and the problem
>
> is that I cannot turn off the configuration option because that turns it
>
> off for the whole application and I need it set 'on' for my personal
> email account, but 'off' for my list accounts like this one.
>
> I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing list
> software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from the mails
>
> it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
You want Jakarta to change its processes to accomodate your use of a
poorly written email client? Not likely...
David
>
> Adam
>
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> Linux 2.4.20 RH9
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Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by David Graham <gr...@yahoo.com>.
--- Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> On 11/07/2003 09:13 PM Yansheng Lin wrote:
> > That's not the point.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> > Sent: November 7, 2003 12:48 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
> >
> >
> >>It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a
> notification
> >>message.
>
> Actually I know what you mean and I find it slightly annoying having to
> hit "tab - return" to get rid of the confirm dialog box, and the problem
>
> is that I cannot turn off the configuration option because that turns it
>
> off for the whole application and I need it set 'on' for my personal
> email account, but 'off' for my list accounts like this one.
>
> I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing list
> software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from the mails
>
> it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
You want Jakarta to change its processes to accomodate your use of a
poorly written email client? Not likely...
David
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
On 11/07/2003 09:13 PM Yansheng Lin wrote:
> That's not the point.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
> Sent: November 7, 2003 12:48 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
>
>
>>It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a notification
>>message.
Actually I know what you mean and I find it slightly annoying having to
hit "tab - return" to get rid of the confirm dialog box, and the problem
is that I cannot turn off the configuration option because that turns it
off for the whole application and I need it set 'on' for my personal
email account, but 'off' for my list accounts like this one.
I wonder if anyone on the Jakarta admin team could set the mailing list
software to strip the 'request-confirmation' email header from the mails
it sends out? As Yinsheng says, there is no point in them.
Adam
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RE: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by Yansheng Lin <ya...@isogis.com>.
That's not the point.
-----Original Message-----
From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
Sent: November 7, 2003 12:48 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
>
> It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a notification
> message.
>
> Don't understand it.
If you don't like Outlook features, stop using Outlook.
>
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Re: [FRIDAY] Why people want to know who read their msg?
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Yansheng Lin wrote:
>
> It's pissing me off when my Outlook asks me if I went to send a notification
> message.
>
> Don't understand it.
If you don't like Outlook features, stop using Outlook.
>
>
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