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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by Rick Hillegas <Ri...@Sun.COM> on 2006/08/24 19:27:14 UTC
Upcoming 10.2 candidates
I had hoped to build the first release candidate soon but I believe this
is not possible, for the following reasons:
a) We still have 15 unresolved Urgent 10.2 issues. Half of these are not
assigned yet.
b) The license issue has not been resolved yet. Yesterday I escalated
this topic to the highest responsible authority. I know this is
frustrating and I thank everyone for their continued patience.
While these issues sort out, I would like to propose a new lineup of
candidates. However, I do not want to create useless churn. Would the
community agree to the following:
1) Instead of a release candidate, I could build a new beta candidate
tomorrow (Friday August 25).
2) I would also like to set a goal for wrapping up the outstanding
issues. Would next Friday (September 1) be a reasonable goal for
generating a release candidate? If that date seems too aggressive, what
would be a better date?
Thanks,
-Rick
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Francois Orsini <fr...@gmail.com>.
On 8/24/06, Rick Hillegas <Ri...@sun.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rajesh. Are you recommending that I not build a new beta until
> these documentation changes commit?
>
> DERBY-1636 - Suresh has a remaining issue with these documentation
> changes. I don't know when these changes will settle down.
>
> DERBY-1655 - According to the last comment on this issue, these
> documentation changes committed. What more needs to be done here?
>
> DERBY-1747 - Kim needs some more feedback from Francois before these
> changes can commit. Unfortunately, Francois is on vacation for the rest
> of this week.
Fortunately, I posted my feeback in the JIRA. +1.
Regards,
> -Rick
>
> Rajesh Kartha wrote:
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) Instead of a release candidate, I could build a new beta candidate
> >> tomorrow (Friday August 25).
> >>
> > I would think a new beta candidate will be useful to the community for
> > testing given the mega-merge of changes from trunk to 10.2 branch since
> > the last beta and that the official release candidate is expected on a
> > later date
> >
> > It would also be desirable if the documentation of the newer feature
> > (for example: DERBY-1636, DERBY-1655, DERBY-1747) were also
> > available by this beta refresh.
> >
> > -Rajesh
>
>
>
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Laura Stewart <sc...@gmail.com>.
Derby-1636 - I plan to get to the updates for 1636 later today or
early tomorrow.
Derby-1655 - I am preparing the final updates for the ref manual now
and will post shortly. That is all that remains for this issue.
On 8/24/06, Rick Hillegas <Ri...@sun.com> wrote:
> Thanks Rajesh. Are you recommending that I not build a new beta until
> these documentation changes commit?
>
> DERBY-1636 - Suresh has a remaining issue with these documentation
> changes. I don't know when these changes will settle down.
>
> DERBY-1655 - According to the last comment on this issue, these
> documentation changes committed. What more needs to be done here?
>
> DERBY-1747 - Kim needs some more feedback from Francois before these
> changes can commit. Unfortunately, Francois is on vacation for the rest
> of this week.
>
> Regards,
> -Rick
>
> Rajesh Kartha wrote:
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) Instead of a release candidate, I could build a new beta candidate
> >> tomorrow (Friday August 25).
> >>
> > I would think a new beta candidate will be useful to the community for
> > testing given the mega-merge of changes from trunk to 10.2 branch since
> > the last beta and that the official release candidate is expected on a
> > later date
> >
> > It would also be desirable if the documentation of the newer feature
> > (for example: DERBY-1636, DERBY-1655, DERBY-1747) were also
> > available by this beta refresh.
> >
> > -Rajesh
>
>
>
--
Laura Stewart
Re: Making 10.2 doc available (Was Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates)
Posted by Rick Hillegas <Ri...@Sun.COM>.
Thanks, Jean!
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>Rajesh Kartha wrote:
>
>
>>Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>>
>>
>...
>
>
>>>We need to add a 10.2 section (the manuals page also has section for
>>>10.1 and 10.0). And for a 10.2 section we need the built docs on
>>>people.apache.org in /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs .
>>>
>>>Andrew has been managing the nightly doc builds. Is the right thing to
>>>work https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/branches/10.2/ into
>>>the nightly build with output to /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2 ?
>>>That is, run nightly until a release candidate becomes the official
>>>release?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>+1. We do need a 10.2 section and your suggestion of nightly doc builds
>>for 10.2 till official release seems like a good approach.
>>
>>
>
>ok, when the 10.2 docs get added to the nightly build, I'll add a 10.2
>section with links to http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals .
>
> -jean
>
>
>
Re: Making 10.2 doc available (Was Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates)
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Andrew McIntyre wrote:
> On 8/24/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>
>> ok, when the 10.2 docs get added to the nightly build, I'll add a 10.2
>> section with links to http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals .
>
> I've added the 10.2.1.1 beta documentation to
> http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2/, but it is not a nightly build.
> Like the documentation for the other branches, I will update the 10.2
> branch docs to reflect the latest official release for the branch once
> the release has been made.
Links to the 10.2 docs are now at
http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/index.html#docs_10.2
I just realized that I should have noted that they are "beta". I'll
make that change now and it'll be live on the web server in about an hour.
-jean
Re: Making 10.2 doc available (Was Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates)
Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.
On 8/24/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>
> ok, when the 10.2 docs get added to the nightly build, I'll add a 10.2
> section with links to http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals .
I've added the 10.2.1.1 beta documentation to
http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2/, but it is not a nightly build.
Like the documentation for the other branches, I will update the 10.2
branch docs to reflect the latest official release for the branch once
the release has been made.
andrew
Re: Making 10.2 doc available (Was Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates)
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Rajesh Kartha wrote:
> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
...
>> We need to add a 10.2 section (the manuals page also has section for
>> 10.1 and 10.0). And for a 10.2 section we need the built docs on
>> people.apache.org in /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs .
>>
>> Andrew has been managing the nightly doc builds. Is the right thing to
>> work https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/branches/10.2/ into
>> the nightly build with output to /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2 ?
>> That is, run nightly until a release candidate becomes the official
>> release?
>>
> +1. We do need a 10.2 section and your suggestion of nightly doc builds
> for 10.2 till official release seems like a good approach.
ok, when the 10.2 docs get added to the nightly build, I'll add a 10.2
section with links to http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals .
-jean
Re: Making 10.2 doc available (Was Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates)
Posted by Rajesh Kartha <ka...@gmail.com>.
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>Rajesh Kartha wrote:
>...
>
>
>>In any case, looks like the doc builds happen everynight and get posted
>>to the Derby manual pages at http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/, so the
>>latest doc commits will be available the next day.
>>
>>(BTW, the manual page still shows them as 'Latest Alpha Manuals' even
>>though we are in the Beta phase, I think we should change to indicate that)
>>
>>
>
>The "Latest Alpha Manuals" section on
>http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/ points to docs that are built from
>the source checked into
>https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/trunk/ . That should
>continue as is.
>
>
>
Yes, I agree the Alpha should stay there for the trunk.
>We need to add a 10.2 section (the manuals page also has section for
>10.1 and 10.0). And for a 10.2 section we need the built docs on
>people.apache.org in /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs .
>
>
>
>Andrew has been managing the nightly doc builds. Is the right thing to
>work https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/branches/10.2/ into
>the nightly build with output to /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2 ?
>That is, run nightly until a release candidate becomes the official release?
>
> -jean
>
>
>
>
>
+1. We do need a 10.2 section and your suggestion of nightly doc builds for 10.2 till official release seems like a
good approach.
-Rajesh
Making 10.2 doc available (Was Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates)
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Rajesh Kartha wrote:
...
> In any case, looks like the doc builds happen everynight and get posted
> to the Derby manual pages at http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/, so the
> latest doc commits will be available the next day.
>
> (BTW, the manual page still shows them as 'Latest Alpha Manuals' even
> though we are in the Beta phase, I think we should change to indicate that)
The "Latest Alpha Manuals" section on
http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/ points to docs that are built from
the source checked into
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/trunk/ . That should
continue as is.
We need to add a 10.2 section (the manuals page also has section for
10.1 and 10.0). And for a 10.2 section we need the built docs on
people.apache.org in /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs .
Andrew has been managing the nightly doc builds. Is the right thing to
work https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/docs/branches/10.2/ into
the nightly build with output to /www/db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2 ?
That is, run nightly until a release candidate becomes the official release?
-jean
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@apache.org>.
Rajesh Kartha wrote:
> (BTW, the manual page still shows them as 'Latest Alpha Manuals' even
> though we are in the Beta phase, I think we should change to indicate that)
Or rather we keep the "latest alpha" correctly for the trunk versions
and have a new 10.2 section.
Dan.
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Rajesh Kartha <ka...@gmail.com>.
Rick Hillegas wrote:
> Thanks Rajesh. Are you recommending that I not build a new beta until
> these documentation changes commit?
>
> DERBY-1636 - Suresh has a remaining issue with these documentation
> changes. I don't know when these changes will settle down.
>
> DERBY-1655 - According to the last comment on this issue, these
> documentation changes committed. What more needs to be done here?
>
> DERBY-1747 - Kim needs some more feedback from Francois before these
> changes can commit. Unfortunately, Francois is on vacation for the
> rest of this week.
>
> Regards,
> -Rick
>
> Rajesh Kartha wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Instead of a release candidate, I could build a new beta
>>> candidate tomorrow (Friday August 25).
>>>
>> I would think a new beta candidate will be useful to the community
>> for testing given the mega-merge of changes from trunk to 10.2 branch
>> since
>> the last beta and that the official release candidate is expected on
>> a later date
>>
>> It would also be desirable if the documentation of the newer feature
>> (for example: DERBY-1636, DERBY-1655, DERBY-1747) were also
>> available by this beta refresh.
>>
>> -Rajesh
>
>
>
>
Hi Rick,
The idea to have the doc issues taken care of with the beta refresh was
to have the buddy testing of these new features and the corresponding
doc reviews
happen at the same time. But I think you should proceed as per your
plan to post the beta refresh candidate. If there is indication that
these doc issues will be
resolved by tomorrow sometime, that would be wonderful..
In any case, looks like the doc builds happen everynight and get posted
to the Derby manual pages at http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/, so the
latest doc commits will be available the next day.
(BTW, the manual page still shows them as 'Latest Alpha Manuals' even
though we are in the Beta phase, I think we should change to indicate that)
-Rajesh
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Francois Orsini <fr...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Jean - Well at least my 4h wait at the airport will not have been
completely wasted :) - Cheers.
On 8/24/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>
> Francois Orsini wrote:
> > I reviewed the content (generated HTML in the diffs) and it looks
> > good... +1
> >
> > Would appreciate a commit if there is no further comment(s)
> >
>
> thanks, Francois, I'll commit -- and have a great vacation for whatever
> is left of this week!
>
> -jean
>
>
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Francois Orsini wrote:
> I reviewed the content (generated HTML in the diffs) and it looks
> good... +1
>
> Would appreciate a commit if there is no further comment(s)
>
thanks, Francois, I'll commit -- and have a great vacation for whatever
is left of this week!
-jean
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Francois Orsini <fr...@gmail.com>.
I reviewed the content (generated HTML in the diffs) and it looks good... +1
Would appreciate a commit if there is no further comment(s)
Thanks,
--francois
On 8/24/06, Jean T. Anderson <jt...@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>
> Rick Hillegas wrote:
>
> > DERBY-1747 - Kim needs some more feedback from Francois before these
> > changes can commit. Unfortunately, Francois is on vacation for the rest
> > of this week.
>
> Does this just need a final review? I see that Kim posted an updated
> patch + zip with html for review. If anyone else is knowledgeable enough
> in this area to review it, feel free to do so and I'll watch for a note
> indicating it's ready to commit.
>
> also ... jira notices do seem to be log jammed again today. So if
> anything is newly ready to review or ready to commit please post.
>
> -jean
>
>
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
Rick Hillegas wrote:
> DERBY-1747 - Kim needs some more feedback from Francois before these
> changes can commit. Unfortunately, Francois is on vacation for the rest
> of this week.
Does this just need a final review? I see that Kim posted an updated
patch + zip with html for review. If anyone else is knowledgeable enough
in this area to review it, feel free to do so and I'll watch for a note
indicating it's ready to commit.
also ... jira notices do seem to be log jammed again today. So if
anything is newly ready to review or ready to commit please post.
-jean
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Rick Hillegas <Ri...@Sun.COM>.
Thanks Rajesh. Are you recommending that I not build a new beta until
these documentation changes commit?
DERBY-1636 - Suresh has a remaining issue with these documentation
changes. I don't know when these changes will settle down.
DERBY-1655 - According to the last comment on this issue, these
documentation changes committed. What more needs to be done here?
DERBY-1747 - Kim needs some more feedback from Francois before these
changes can commit. Unfortunately, Francois is on vacation for the rest
of this week.
Regards,
-Rick
Rajesh Kartha wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 1) Instead of a release candidate, I could build a new beta candidate
>> tomorrow (Friday August 25).
>>
> I would think a new beta candidate will be useful to the community for
> testing given the mega-merge of changes from trunk to 10.2 branch since
> the last beta and that the official release candidate is expected on a
> later date
>
> It would also be desirable if the documentation of the newer feature
> (for example: DERBY-1636, DERBY-1655, DERBY-1747) were also
> available by this beta refresh.
>
> -Rajesh
Re: Upcoming 10.2 candidates
Posted by Rajesh Kartha <ka...@gmail.com>.
>
>
> 1) Instead of a release candidate, I could build a new beta candidate
> tomorrow (Friday August 25).
>
I would think a new beta candidate will be useful to the community for
testing given the mega-merge of changes from trunk to 10.2 branch since
the last beta and that the official release candidate is expected on a
later date
It would also be desirable if the documentation of the newer feature
(for example: DERBY-1636, DERBY-1655, DERBY-1747) were also
available by this beta refresh.
-Rajesh