Re: Central repository for taglibs plus fairy tale

[Ulrich Mayring <ul...@denic.de>]

Jeff Turner wrote:
> 
> It would adopt the Apache model from the start, so the transition would
> involve minimal pain. The CVS repository would have to change, and
> "Apache branding" applied.

esql already has Apache branding, so we might want to brand the rest
right away. So the only difference between this project and an Apache
thing would be the location of the cvs server. What advantage does this
give to our users compared to a real Apache project? What advantage does
it give to us developers? I'm probably missing some of the finer points,
but since I'm not a committee type of person, I'll just go along with
whatever you guys say ;-)

> auth, soap, ldap, eldap.. if we could "repackage" esql and friends, that
> should be enough to get started.

How did the jakarta taglibs start out? Weren't they a part of Apache
from the start?

Ok, time for a little story:

Several years ago Deutsche Bank (the largest German banking group)
decided they wanted to have direct/online/Internet banking. Except that
they weren't sure if they really wanted to have it. Many doubts were
raised over issues like branding and security.

So they split the project off and called it "Bank24". So the Bank24
managers said the best thing for their customers was, that it had
nothing to do with Deutsche Bank - and Deutsche said to their customers,
that the best thing for them was, that everything remained the same. So
the customers, who preferred the cheaper direct model, went to Bank24.
And the ones, who'd rather pay more for personal service, remained at
Deutsche.

So in the end they had made two companies out of one and it was hell to
maintain. Therefore the bosses decided to merge both banks back into
one. It turned out that the two companies were incompatible in terms of
culture, paychecks and technology, so the merger cost them the same
amount of image, time and money as if they had bought a totally seperate
bank. Only that it was their own bank to begin with or it could have
been. So now they're literally (I'm not making this up) tearing the
signs "Deutsche Bank" down everywhere and putting up new signs stating
"Deutsche Bank 24".

Moral of the story: you can merge with yourself, but you don't have to
;-)

Ulrich

-- 
Ulrich Mayring
DENIC eG, Systementwicklung

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