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Website Help

Hi!

I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would love
to help out with the website.
I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
getting started on this if you still
require the help?

Thanks so much!

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Re: Website Help

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
Hi Louis -- :)

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts
<ls...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 17 January 2012 17:54, kay.schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
> >> > roman@silenceproductions.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi!
> >> >>
> >> >> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would
> >> love
> >> >> to help out with the website.
> >> >> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
> >> >> getting started on this if you still
> >> >> require the help?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hi Roman--
> >> >
> >> > Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!
> >> >
> >> > Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are
> actually
> >> > *two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page
> (also
> >> > called the developer portal) at:
> >> >
> >> >  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html
> >> >
> >> > and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.openoffice.org/
> >> >
> >> > As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages
> is a
> >> > bit out of date, so what you see there could use some
> "interpretation" I
> >> > think.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think the original  "help wanted" was with respect to the podling
> >> website:
> >>
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> >>
> >> It looks like something I would have designed.  That is not a good thing
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> It could really use some "CSS Love" from someone with a good sense for
> >> design.
> >>
> >
> > Well maybe Roman would like to contribute this "love". ;}
> >
> > Really, I am not so concerned with "style" on the "Help Wanted" page as
> > much as "currency" and "completeness". A LOT has happened since this page
> > was created. Yes, it needs some more/different elaboration at this point.
> >
> Tell me what to do and I can help write the text. it will to a degree
> be like old times. Bu then, finding out the to-dos took, quite
> literally, years. And was never fully done.
>

Right now, I see two areas on the "project" site,
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/, that could really use some work
--

* we have a "Community FAQ" page that is empty.
>From my perspective, we really need to DO something with this. Maybe inform
people about what it means that OpenOffice.org is now an Apache project
versus its own "project/entity" as it was in the past. Go into some
elaboration as to what it means to be an Apache "contributor" vs
"developer/committer" and what the differences are between the former
'joining" OpenOffice.org and what/how people can participate now.

* and, we now have TWO wikis -- the "planning wiki",
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/

-- and --

the original OOo wiki
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page

What's the difference? Why would I register for one over the other...

I dislike the fact that we don't seem to have a "single sign-on" for these
AND BZ, but I'll bring this up in a different thread.

Anyway, yes, please help in any way you can to illuminate these areas and
make them more useful to casual users. I think having two portals (web
sites) is really a good idea but how to get people on the right path.

I guess I should update "Help Wanted" with some of this issues.


> What we did before was also try to distinguish and list (before Moz
> did this, btw) things that were easier from those that demanded more
> skill and collaborative work.
>
> We don't have to do that here.
>
> -louis
>
> (invert Campbell: Bliss your followers.)
>

funny! :)



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Follow your bliss."
         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: Website Help

Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <ls...@gmail.com>.
Hi,


On 17 January 2012 17:54, kay.schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
>> > roman@silenceproductions.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would
>> love
>> >> to help out with the website.
>> >> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
>> >> getting started on this if you still
>> >> require the help?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hi Roman--
>> >
>> > Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!
>> >
>> > Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
>> > *two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
>> > called the developer portal) at:
>> >
>> >  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html
>> >
>> > and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:
>> >
>> > http://www.openoffice.org/
>> >
>> > As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
>> > bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
>> > think.
>> >
>>
>> I think the original  "help wanted" was with respect to the podling
>> website:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>>
>> It looks like something I would have designed.  That is not a good thing
>> ;-)
>>
>> It could really use some "CSS Love" from someone with a good sense for
>> design.
>>
>
> Well maybe Roman would like to contribute this "love". ;}
>
> Really, I am not so concerned with "style" on the "Help Wanted" page as
> much as "currency" and "completeness". A LOT has happened since this page
> was created. Yes, it needs some more/different elaboration at this point.
>
Tell me what to do and I can help write the text. it will to a degree
be like old times. Bu then, finding out the to-dos took, quite
literally, years. And was never fully done.

What we did before was also try to distinguish and list (before Moz
did this, btw) things that were easier from those that demanded more
skill and collaborative work.

We don't have to do that here.

-louis

(invert Campbell: Bliss your followers.)

Re: Website Help

Posted by "kay.schenk" <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
> > roman@silenceproductions.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would
> love
> >> to help out with the website.
> >> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
> >> getting started on this if you still
> >> require the help?
> >>
> >
> > Hi Roman--
> >
> > Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!
> >
> > Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
> > *two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
> > called the developer portal) at:
> >
> >  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html
> >
> > and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/
> >
> > As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
> > bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
> > think.
> >
>
> I think the original  "help wanted" was with respect to the podling
> website:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>
> It looks like something I would have designed.  That is not a good thing
> ;-)
>
> It could really use some "CSS Love" from someone with a good sense for
> design.
>

Well maybe Roman would like to contribute this "love". ;}

Really, I am not so concerned with "style" on the "Help Wanted" page as
much as "currency" and "completeness". A LOT has happened since this page
was created. Yes, it needs some more/different elaboration at this point.


> > This said, we just got the legacy site migrated the last week in
> December.
> > I don't think we're ready for any large scale design changes at the
> moment
> > -- but we are in need of some sitewide edits for the user portal site
> with
> > respect to the palce of the user portal site in the Apache Foundation vs
> > the "independent" OpenOffice.org entity.
> >
> > This said,  please feel free to take a look at anything you see on the
> > "user portal" site -- http:www.openoffice.org -- and suggest changes or,
> > given your current "contributor" role, submit patches, to areas.
> >
> > And again, welcome to the project!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks so much!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Roman Meisenberg
> >> p. 213.53.ROMAN
> >> f.  763.322.2274
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> silenceproductions.net
> >> roman@silenceproductions.net
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> New York, NY
> >> Miami, FL
> >> Los Angeles, CA
> >>
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Follow your bliss."
> >         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Follow your bliss."
         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: Website Help

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
> roman@silenceproductions.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would love
>> to help out with the website.
>> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
>> getting started on this if you still
>> require the help?
>>
>
> Hi Roman--
>
> Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!
>
> Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
> *two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
> called the developer portal) at:
>
>  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html
>
> and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/
>
> As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
> bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
> think.
>

I think the original  "help wanted" was with respect to the podling website:

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

It looks like something I would have designed.  That is not a good thing ;-)

It could really use some "CSS Love" from someone with a good sense for design.

> This said, we just got the legacy site migrated the last week in December.
> I don't think we're ready for any large scale design changes at the moment
> -- but we are in need of some sitewide edits for the user portal site with
> respect to the palce of the user portal site in the Apache Foundation vs
> the "independent" OpenOffice.org entity.
>
> This said,  please feel free to take a look at anything you see on the
> "user portal" site -- http:www.openoffice.org -- and suggest changes or,
> given your current "contributor" role, submit patches, to areas.
>
> And again, welcome to the project!
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>> --
>> Roman Meisenberg
>> p. 213.53.ROMAN
>> f.  763.322.2274
>> ------------------------------------------
>> silenceproductions.net
>> roman@silenceproductions.net
>> ------------------------------------------
>> New York, NY
>> Miami, FL
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Follow your bliss."
>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: Website Help

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
roman@silenceproductions.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would love
> to help out with the website.
> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
> getting started on this if you still
> require the help?
>

Hi Roman--

Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!

Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
*two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
called the developer portal) at:

 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html

and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:

http://www.openoffice.org/

As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
think.

This said, we just got the legacy site migrated the last week in December.
I don't think we're ready for any large scale design changes at the moment
-- but we are in need of some sitewide edits for the user portal site with
respect to the palce of the user portal site in the Apache Foundation vs
the "independent" OpenOffice.org entity.

This said,  please feel free to take a look at anything you see on the
"user portal" site -- http:www.openoffice.org -- and suggest changes or,
given your current "contributor" role, submit patches, to areas.

And again, welcome to the project!




> Thanks so much!
>
> --
> Roman Meisenberg
> p. 213.53.ROMAN
> f.  763.322.2274
> ------------------------------------------
> silenceproductions.net
> roman@silenceproductions.net
> ------------------------------------------
> New York, NY
> Miami, FL
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Follow your bliss."
         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell