Integration into Eclipse RCP/plugin development

["Girish Babu (gibabu)" <gi...@cisco.com>]

Greetings Fellow Pivot Enthusiasts,

 

Has anyone attempted to integrate Apache Pivot into Eclipse Plugin/RCP
applications ? I wanted to proceed to do the same, but

was wondering if any groundwork already exists to continue from.

 

Also, is there a pictorial representation describing the various layers
while building the UI from Pivot, since this info will be useful

while trying to integrate this into an Eclipse application ?

 

Thanks !

 

Regards,

Girish

 

Re: Integration into Eclipse RCP/plugin development

[Greg Brown <gk...@mac.com>]

Hi Girish,

You may find the "Platform Overview" and "WTKX Primer" sections of the  
tutorial helpful in understanding Pivot's architecture:

http://incubator.apache.org/pivot/1.3/tutorials/platform_overview.html
http://incubator.apache.org/pivot/1.3/tutorials/wtkx_primer.html

Greg

On Oct 5, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Girish Babu (gibabu) wrote:

> Hi Todd,
>
> Thanks for your reply and insight on this. I’m still finding my way  
> around Pivot and trying to understand the point where the display  
> actually gets translated onto the applet container. Any thoughts  
> documented on this ? I’ll definitely share anything that I can  
> develop of use in this regard.
>
> Regarding the second query, I wasn’t thinking on those lines J …  
> that would be a great way to go in the future. In reality, I was  
> looking for a flow diagram of how the UI gets rendered from a given  
> wktx file (translation to a compiled class, build into a display  
> (??), etc)
>
> Regards,
> Girish
>
> From: Todd Volkert [mailto:tvolkert@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:31 PM
> To: pivot-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Integration into Eclipse RCP/plugin development
>
> Hi Girish,
>
> Has anyone attempted to integrate Apache Pivot into Eclipse Plugin/ 
> RCP applications ? I wanted to proceed to do the same, but was  
> wondering if any groundwork already exists to continue from.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, Eclipse RCP apps run using SWT, correct?  Pivot  
> apps are backed at the lowest levels by AWT, so in order to get this  
> to work, you'd have to use an SWT/AWT bridge, and perhaps write a  
> new ApplicationContext subclass that performed this bridging behind  
> the scenes.  We've considered tackling something like this in the  
> past but never got to it.  If you start working in this, it'd be  
> great if you could share your experience with it.
> Also, is there a pictorial representation describing the various  
> layers while building the UI from Pivot, since this info will be  
> useful while trying to integrate this into an Eclipse application ?
>
> You mean live updating as you code your WTKX?  Nothing like that  
> exists so far, but it'd be a great contribution to the tools sub- 
> project if you wrote one :)
>

RE: Integration into Eclipse RCP/plugin development

["Girish Babu (gibabu)" <gi...@cisco.com>]

Hi Todd,

 

Thanks for your reply and insight on this. I'm still finding my way
around Pivot and trying to understand the point where the display
actually gets translated onto the applet container. Any thoughts
documented on this ? I'll definitely share anything that I can develop
of use in this regard.

 

Regarding the second query, I wasn't thinking on those lines J ... that
would be a great way to go in the future. In reality, I was looking for
a flow diagram of how the UI gets rendered from a given wktx file
(translation to a compiled class, build into a display (??), etc)

 

Regards,

Girish

 

From: Todd Volkert [mailto:tvolkert@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:31 PM
To: pivot-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Integration into Eclipse RCP/plugin development

 

Hi Girish,

	Has anyone attempted to integrate Apache Pivot into Eclipse
Plugin/RCP applications ? I wanted to proceed to do the same, but was
wondering if any groundwork already exists to continue from.

If I'm not mistaken, Eclipse RCP apps run using SWT, correct?  Pivot
apps are backed at the lowest levels by AWT, so in order to get this to
work, you'd have to use an SWT/AWT bridge, and perhaps write a new
ApplicationContext subclass that performed this bridging behind the
scenes.  We've considered tackling something like this in the past but
never got to it.  If you start working in this, it'd be great if you
could share your experience with it.

	Also, is there a pictorial representation describing the various
layers while building the UI from Pivot, since this info will be useful
while trying to integrate this into an Eclipse application ?

You mean live updating as you code your WTKX?  Nothing like that exists
so far, but it'd be a great contribution to the tools sub-project if you
wrote one :)

 

Re: Integration into Eclipse RCP/plugin development

[Todd Volkert <tv...@gmail.com>]

Hi Girish,

Has anyone attempted to integrate Apache Pivot into Eclipse Plugin/RCP
> applications ? I wanted to proceed to do the same, but was wondering if any
> groundwork already exists to continue from.
>
If I'm not mistaken, Eclipse RCP apps run using SWT, correct?  Pivot apps
are backed at the lowest levels by AWT, so in order to get this to work,
you'd have to use an SWT/AWT bridge, and perhaps write a new
ApplicationContext subclass that performed this bridging behind the scenes.
 We've considered tackling something like this in the past but never got to
it.  If you start working in this, it'd be great if you could share your
experience with it.

> Also, is there a pictorial representation describing the various layers
> while building the UI from Pivot, since this info will be useful while
> trying to integrate this into an Eclipse application ?
>
You mean live updating as you code your WTKX?  Nothing like that exists so
far, but it'd be a great contribution to the tools sub-project if you wrote
one :)