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Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

If you look at this issue
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470
you will see a number of possible changes suggested for the Bulgarian 
locale (the way we format numbers and dates when writing in Bulgarian).

Could someone who speaks Bulgarian please take a look? If it sounds 
complex, for a start it would be helpful to know whether you use (for a 
number) 12.3 or 12,3 as the most common syntax. The patch supposedly 
changes 12.3 to 12,3 but it also does a number of other replacements 
that should be validated.

Thanks,
   Andrea.

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Re: Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 20/08/2015 Hristo Hristov wrote:
> As I have wrote the locale is following the Bulgarian standarts. Changeing the
> decimal seperator to dot because some people is using it is not good practis.

OK. Did you also take a look at the other proposed changes?

There are many of them and you can find them in detail at
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=84884

If none of them should be included, just let us know and we can close 
the issue. Otherwise we will keep the ones that are useful.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

Posted by Hristo Hristov <h....@icobgr.info>.
If I remember correctly in the past there was again an attemt to change 
Bulgarian locale. 

As I have wrote the locale is following the Bulgarian standarts. Changeing the 
decimal seperator to dot because some people is using it is not good practis. 
Standarts help us to make things good. 

We have to stick to the sandarts. All other applications are using same 
standarts - KDE, Gnome and etc. 

The applications allow the user to change the locale data if he wants.

Ragards,

-- 
Hristo Simeonov Hristov
Leader of OpenOffice.org - Bulgarian
GnuPG key 0x0347FF73: AE8D 6D5E CC07 2B40 EC68 5FFE D6EE 9505 0347 FF73

On 18.8.2015 09:03:17 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 18/08/2015 Hristo Hristov wrote:
> > I have created the Bulgarian locale XML file in OpenOffice in consistent
> > with the Bulgarian Standarts some years ago.
> > Why was this patch has been proposed? What issue it fixes?
> 
> The patch was proposed to our QA list back in June, see
> http://www.mail-archive.com/qa@openoffice.apache.org/msg02576.html
> and the replies.
> 
> It claims to fix this problem: "In Your Bulgarian localization decimal
> symbol is comma, but most used is dot".
> 
> It does much much more than that, as you can see from the diff I posted
> to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470 and precisely
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=84884
> 
> I'm CCing Boyan Alexiev who proposed the patch. In short: if you manage
> to discuss it (even privately, outside mailing lists) and agree, please
> post here on l10n or in the issue what changes, if any, should be done,
> and we will consider them for 4.1.2. If no changes are needed, all
> locale settings for Bulgarian will remain the same between 4.1.1 and
> 4.1.2 (but I would still appreciate if we settle the issue).
> 
> Regards,
>    Andrea.
> 
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Re: Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 18/08/2015 Hristo Hristov wrote:
> I have created the Bulgarian locale XML file in OpenOffice in consistent with the
> Bulgarian Standarts some years ago.
> Why was this patch has been proposed? What issue it fixes?

The patch was proposed to our QA list back in June, see
http://www.mail-archive.com/qa@openoffice.apache.org/msg02576.html
and the replies.

It claims to fix this problem: "In Your Bulgarian localization decimal 
symbol is comma, but most used is dot".

It does much much more than that, as you can see from the diff I posted 
to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470 and precisely 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=84884

I'm CCing Boyan Alexiev who proposed the patch. In short: if you manage 
to discuss it (even privately, outside mailing lists) and agree, please 
post here on l10n or in the issue what changes, if any, should be done, 
and we will consider them for 4.1.2. If no changes are needed, all 
locale settings for Bulgarian will remain the same between 4.1.1 and 
4.1.2 (but I would still appreciate if we settle the issue).

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

Posted by Hristo Hristov <h....@icobgr.info>.
Hi,
I have created the Bulgarian locale XML file in OpenOffice in consistent with the  
Bulgarian Standarts some years ago.
Why was this patch has been proposed? What issue it fixes?

On 17.8.2015 16:48:23 Христо Христов wrote:
> By Bulgarian standards decimal delimiter is comma not point. When I have
> access to my computer I will look the patch and I will write more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 16.08.2015 г., at 18:18, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> > If you look at this issue
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470
> > you will see a number of possible changes suggested for the Bulgarian
> > locale (the way we format numbers and dates when writing in Bulgarian).
> > 
> > Could someone who speaks Bulgarian please take a look? If it sounds
> > complex, for a start it would be helpful to know whether you use (for a
> > number) 12.3 or 12,3 as the most common syntax. The patch supposedly
> > changes 12.3 to 12,3 but it also does a number of other replacements that
> > should be validated.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> >  Andrea.
> > 
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-- 
Hristo Simeonov Hristov
Leader of OpenOffice.org - Bulgarian
GnuPG key 0x0347FF73: AE8D 6D5E CC07 2B40 EC68 5FFE D6EE 9505 0347 FF73

Re: Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

Posted by Христо Христов <h....@icobgr.info>.
By Bulgarian standards decimal delimiter is comma not point. When I have access to my computer I will look the patch and I will write more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16.08.2015 г., at 18:18, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> If you look at this issue
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470
> you will see a number of possible changes suggested for the Bulgarian locale (the way we format numbers and dates when writing in Bulgarian).
> 
> Could someone who speaks Bulgarian please take a look? If it sounds complex, for a start it would be helpful to know whether you use (for a number) 12.3 or 12,3 as the most common syntax. The patch supposedly changes 12.3 to 12,3 but it also does a number of other replacements that should be validated.
> 
> Thanks,
>  Andrea.
> 
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Re: Bulgarian locale check for 4.1.2

Posted by Vera Waldschik <vw...@gmx.de>.
Hello,

12,3 is in Bulgarian the most common syntax. There are also some syntax 
errors in the attached file. I'm sending the file with the corrections.

Am 16.08.2015 um 17:18 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> If you look at this issue
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126470
> you will see a number of possible changes suggested for the Bulgarian 
> locale (the way we format numbers and dates when writing in Bulgarian).
>
> Could someone who speaks Bulgarian please take a look? If it sounds 
> complex, for a start it would be helpful to know whether you use (for 
> a number) 12.3 or 12,3 as the most common syntax. The patch supposedly 
> changes 12.3 to 12,3 but it also does a number of other replacements 
> that should be validated.
>
> Thanks,
>   Andrea.
>
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