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[Bug 4507] New: Add support for URIBL.com
http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4507
Summary: Add support for URIBL.com
Product: Spamassassin
Version: SVN Trunk (Latest Devel Version)
Platform: Other
URL: http://www.uribl.com
OS/Version: other
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P5
Component: Rules
AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
ReportedBy: henry@stern.ca
I'd like to add support for URIBL.com to trunk in anticipation of rescoring for
a 3.2 release. If we do this early then people who will be contributing logs
for the next scoring run will have data for use with the --reuse option.
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2005-07-29 16:06 -------
+1
looks good, although the fp rate on the grey list will need a look. I'd prefer
to set that to something like 0.1 until we have a good idea what it is.
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------- Additional Comments From quinlan@pathname.com 2006-03-14 05:08 -------
I am -0.998 against deploying this rule sans a perceptron scoring run. The FP
rate is not to be triffled with and there is a lot of overlap with the SURBL
rules. I'm concerned that any SURBL false positive will then instantly become
a message false positive (assuming URIBL.com black is more aggressive) when it
hits both lists.
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2006-07-24 09:04 -------
yeah -- it got promoted (?) so it's now called just "URIBL_RED":
http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20060722-r424538-n/URIBL_RED/detail
(it has a score of 0.001, in the main ruleset, in rules/25_uribl.cf .)
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------- Additional Comments From dallase@nmgi.com 2005-11-11 17:04 -------
since the milestone on this shows 3.2.0, do you know how far that might be?
thanks.
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What |Removed |Added
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Target Milestone|Undefined |3.2.0
------- Additional Comments From henry@stern.ca 2005-07-29 15:40 -------
>From http://www.uribl.com/usage.shtml
urirhssub URIBL_BLACK multi.uribl.com. A 2
body URIBL_BLACK eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_BLACK')
describe URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
tflags URIBL_BLACK net
score URIBL_BLACK 3.0
urirhssub URIBL_GREY multi.uribl.com. A 4
body URIBL_GREY eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_GREY')
describe URIBL_GREY Contains an URL listed in the URIBL greylist
tflags URIBL_GREY net
score URIBL_GREY 1.0
urirhssub URIBL_BLACK multi.uribl.com. A 2
body URIBL_BLACK eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_BLACK')
describe URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
tflags URIBL_BLACK net
score URIBL_BLACK 3.0
urirhssub URIBL_RED multi.uribl.com. A 8
body URIBL_RED eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_RED')
describe URIBL_RED Contains an URL listed in the URIBL redlist
tflags URIBL_RED net
score URIBL_RED 1.0
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------- Additional Comments From bugzilla.spamassassin.org@iloaf.com 2005-08-01 00:51 -------
Stats/Feedback would be welcomed on the uribl-discuss list.
List-Subscribe: http://lists.uribl.com/mailman/listinfo/uribl-discuss
mailto:uribl-discuss-request@lists.maddoc.net?subject=subscribe
List-Post: uribl-discuss@lists.maddoc.net
Thanks.
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------- Additional Comments From dallase@nmgi.com 2005-11-09 19:20 -------
i am speaking on behalf of uribl.com when i say you have our blessing to move
URIBL rules out of 70_testing.cf and into 25_uribl.cf
thanks..
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2005-11-12 04:08 -------
yeah, definitely one of those things to talk about alright ;)
however I would prefer to talk on the list if possible; quite a few of the
interested parties may not be going to AC2k5.
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2005-11-10 00:30 -------
thanks, Dallas.
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kristopher.austin@oc.edu changed:
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2005-08-01 17:09 -------
I've just fixed up those rules --
- the rule names had no T_ prefix
- should not have scores above 0.001 while they're in testing
IMO, they should also have been put in 70_testing.cf, but since Theo suggested
70_uribl.cf in the first place, I'll let you off that one ;)
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------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org 2005-07-29 16:10 -------
Subject: Re: Add support for URIBL.com
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 04:06:35PM -0700, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.spamassassin.org wrote:
> looks good, although the fp rate on the grey list will need a look. I'd prefer
> to set that to something like 0.1 until we have a good idea what it is.
BTW: since the URIBL people don't want to be in the standard distro for now,
we should put them in as 70_uribl.cf or something. sets up the reuse, but
doesn't get distributed by default.
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------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org 2006-03-11 23:10 -------
(In reply to comment #8)
> i am speaking on behalf of uribl.com when i say you have our blessing to move
> URIBL rules out of 70_testing.cf and into 25_uribl.cf
(In reply to comment #10)
> since the milestone on this shows 3.2.0, do you know how far that might be?
just an update -- I'm about to commit the new URIBL rules to the 3.1.1 update area, and it'll be available
in the next update (probably when 3.1.1 is released), ie: in the next couple of days. :)
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henry@stern.ca changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
Summary|Add support for URIBL.com |[review] Add support for
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------- Additional Comments From henry@stern.ca 2006-01-20 21:20 -------
Freqs from buildbot
(http://buildbot.spamassassin.org/ruleqa/ruleqa?daterev=20060114-r366568-n&s_defcorpus=on&rule=%2FT_URIBL_%28BLACK%7CGREY%7CRED%29&s_zero=on&s_detail=checked+&g=Change)
0.00000 48.6854 0.0976 0.998 0.89 0.01 T_URIBL_BLACK
0.00000 1.0975 0.0488 0.957 0.71 0.01 T_URIBL_GREY
0.00000 0.0248 0.0000 1.000 0.49 0.01 T_URIBL_RED
Using suggested scores from the uribl.com website of 3.0 for black, 1.0 for grey
and 0.0 for red.
Added to active rules in rev. 370897.
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------- Additional Comments From henry@stern.ca 2006-03-14 14:44 -------
Where URIBL_GREY is concerned, Dan has a point. URIBL_GREY deliberately
contains domains like doubleclick.net and geocities.com and it may indeed cause
some false positives.
I'd be +1 on shipping URIBL_BLACK without a perceptron run but not URIBL_GREY.
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------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org 2006-03-14 16:48 -------
(In reply to comment #17)
> I am -0.998 against deploying this rule sans a perceptron scoring run. The FP
> rate is not to be triffled with and there is a lot of overlap with the SURBL
> rules. I'm concerned that any SURBL false positive will then instantly become
> a message false positive (assuming URIBL.com black is more aggressive) when it
> hits both lists.
A few thoughts:
These rules are already deployed via 3.1.1 updates. The scores for the URIBL_* rules aren't any more
important than the scores for any rules we're making available. Right now, I've been guessing at scores
based on hit frequency results, but we need to come up with a better way to set the default scores. The
subject of this ticket is about adding in URIBL* rules, which has been done, so we should move to
another venue (dev@ is suggested) to discuss how to better set default scores/do more frequent score
generation.
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2006-03-14 11:06 -------
Dan, we discussed this on the list -- in fact, most FPs on the SURBL and URIBL
rules are *not* due to hits across multiple URIBLs; while that does occur
frequently in spam, it occurs very infrequently in ham.
Sidney -- I'm not keen on that idea. Spamassassin's design philosophy is to not
require configuration where possible.
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Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED
Resolution| |FIXED
------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org 2006-03-07 04:11 -------
this was done already. :)
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------- Additional Comments From sidney@sidney.com 2006-03-14 05:26 -------
Does it make sense to deploy the rules with scores of 0.03 for black, 0.01 for
grey, and 0 for red so people have the option of using them if they wish to by
simply rescoring after they have gathererd statistics for themselves?
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------- Additional Comments From dallase@nmgi.com 2006-07-24 05:10 -------
is there recent freqs for T_URIBL_RED on buildbot somewhere? i cant seem to
find it.
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------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org 2005-11-12 03:38 -------
(In reply to comment #11)
> with any luck though we can come up with some form of rule-updating via
> "sa-update", I think Theo had that planned....
We can definitely put up URIBL rules via sa-update as it doesn't require any extra code. However, there
aren't currently any plans for how we should use sa-update, how to promote rules into an update, etc. I
have a few ideas about how to do this, but it's not quite ready for use yet. Maybe this is something we can
get done at AC2005...?
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2005-11-11 19:52 -------
heh -- not a clue ;)
with any luck though we can come up with some form of rule-updating via
"sa-update", I think Theo had that planned....
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