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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by mo...@comcast.net on 2013/10/23 00:37:36 UTC
newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Hello,
I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
Some newbie questions:
1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
(e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
Is that correct?
2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
no problem :)
On 23/10/2013 02:18, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Thanks so much Lee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:06:24 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> this is the link to bookmark:
> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash
> Player archives
> <http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash%20Player%20archives>
> - each zip contains standard and debug versions for both browser types
> (plus standalone version)
>
> On 23/10/2013 02:00, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>> OK, I think I figured some stuff out... Flash Player can't be switched between debug and non-debug in Safari and Firefox (without an extension at least). You need to uninstall the current version before installing a different version.
>>
>> Seems only Chrome allows easy switching between debug and non-debug, but you're restricted to using the latest version.
>>
>> The non-debug version is available here:
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> The website auto-detects your system and the file you download is the latest one appropriate for you. The confusing thing is that it doesn't state that it's the non-debug version, or where to go for the debug version.
>>
>> Alternatively, the debug version is available here:
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
>>
>> but there's no link stating where to go for the non-debug version. However, clicking on "Get the latest version" brings you to the first link above, which is for the non-debug version.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: modjklist@comcast.net
>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:32:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>>
>> Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty easily.
>>
>> I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version in Safari or Firefox?
>>
>> That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here:
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
>>
>> which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads shown, if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector versions. Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not developers) use?
>>
>> I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have version Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include both debugger and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other (e.g. on Firefox or Safari)?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>>
>> you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
>> "chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
>> right hand side.
>>
>> the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
>> should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
>> want running.
>>
>> On 23/10/2013 00:01, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>>> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
>>>
>>> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
>>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>>>
>>> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
>>> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
>>> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
>>> switch between versions)
>>>
>>> On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>>>>
>>>> Some newbie questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>>>
>>>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>>>>
>>>> Is that correct?
>>>>
>>>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>>>>
>>>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>>>>
>>>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>>>>
>>>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>>>>
>>>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>>>>
>>>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>>>
>>>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
Thanks so much Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:06:24 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
this is the link to bookmark:
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash
Player archives
<http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash%20Player%20archives>
- each zip contains standard and debug versions for both browser types
(plus standalone version)
On 23/10/2013 02:00, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> OK, I think I figured some stuff out... Flash Player can't be switched between debug and non-debug in Safari and Firefox (without an extension at least). You need to uninstall the current version before installing a different version.
>
> Seems only Chrome allows easy switching between debug and non-debug, but you're restricted to using the latest version.
>
> The non-debug version is available here:
>
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> The website auto-detects your system and the file you download is the latest one appropriate for you. The confusing thing is that it doesn't state that it's the non-debug version, or where to go for the debug version.
>
> Alternatively, the debug version is available here:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
>
> but there's no link stating where to go for the non-debug version. However, clicking on "Get the latest version" brings you to the first link above, which is for the non-debug version.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: modjklist@comcast.net
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:32:02 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty easily.
>
> I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version in Safari or Firefox?
>
> That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
>
> which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads shown, if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector versions. Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not developers) use?
>
> I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have version Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include both debugger and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other (e.g. on Firefox or Safari)?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
> "chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
> right hand side.
>
> the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
> should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
> want running.
>
> On 23/10/2013 00:01, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
>>
>> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>>
>> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
>> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
>> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
>> switch between versions)
>>
>> On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>>>
>>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>>>
>>> Some newbie questions:
>>>
>>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>>>
>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>>
>>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>>>
>>> Is that correct?
>>>
>>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>>>
>>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>>>
>>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>>>
>>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>>>
>>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>>>
>>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>>
>>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
this is the link to bookmark:
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash
Player archives
<http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html#Flash%20Player%20archives>
- each zip contains standard and debug versions for both browser types
(plus standalone version)
On 23/10/2013 02:00, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> OK, I think I figured some stuff out... Flash Player can't be switched between debug and non-debug in Safari and Firefox (without an extension at least). You need to uninstall the current version before installing a different version.
>
> Seems only Chrome allows easy switching between debug and non-debug, but you're restricted to using the latest version.
>
> The non-debug version is available here:
>
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> The website auto-detects your system and the file you download is the latest one appropriate for you. The confusing thing is that it doesn't state that it's the non-debug version, or where to go for the debug version.
>
> Alternatively, the debug version is available here:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
>
> but there's no link stating where to go for the non-debug version. However, clicking on "Get the latest version" brings you to the first link above, which is for the non-debug version.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: modjklist@comcast.net
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:32:02 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty easily.
>
> I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version in Safari or Firefox?
>
> That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
>
> which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads shown, if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector versions. Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not developers) use?
>
> I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have version Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include both debugger and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other (e.g. on Firefox or Safari)?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
> "chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
> right hand side.
>
> the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
> should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
> want running.
>
> On 23/10/2013 00:01, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
>>
>> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
>> To: users@flex.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>>
>> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
>> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
>> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
>> switch between versions)
>>
>> On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>>>
>>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>>>
>>> Some newbie questions:
>>>
>>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>>>
>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>>
>>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>>>
>>> Is that correct?
>>>
>>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>>>
>>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>>>
>>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>>>
>>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>>>
>>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>>>
>>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>>
>>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
OK, I think I figured some stuff out... Flash Player can't be switched between debug and non-debug in Safari and Firefox (without an extension at least). You need to uninstall the current version before installing a different version.
Seems only Chrome allows easy switching between debug and non-debug, but you're restricted to using the latest version.
The non-debug version is available here:
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
The website auto-detects your system and the file you download is the latest one appropriate for you. The confusing thing is that it doesn't state that it's the non-debug version, or where to go for the debug version.
Alternatively, the debug version is available here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
but there's no link stating where to go for the non-debug version. However, clicking on "Get the latest version" brings you to the first link above, which is for the non-debug version.
----- Original Message -----
From: modjklist@comcast.net
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:32:02 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty easily.
I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version in Safari or Firefox?
That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads shown, if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector versions. Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not developers) use?
I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have version Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include both debugger and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other (e.g. on Firefox or Safari)?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
"chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
right hand side.
the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
want running.
On 23/10/2013 00:01, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
>
> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
> switch between versions)
>
> On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>>
>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>>
>> Some newbie questions:
>>
>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>
>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>>
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>>
>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>>
>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>>
>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>>
>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
Thanks Lee, I can toggle between nondebugger and debugger in Chrome pretty easily.
I guess the unsolved generic question is how to install non-debugger version in Safari or Firefox?
That is, I don't see separate downloads for debugger and nondebugger here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
which seems to be the place to download Flash Player. But, the downloads shown, if I'm looking at this correctly, are only for debugger and projector versions. Where is the non-debugger version that 99% of users (e.g. not developers) use?
I know Chrome ships with it, but I don't think the others do. If I have version Flash Player 11.9.900.117 installed on my system, does it include both debugger and non-debugger? If so, how to activate one versus the other (e.g. on Firefox or Safari)?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:22:42 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
"chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
right hand side.
the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
want running.
On 23/10/2013 00:01, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
>
> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
> switch between versions)
>
> On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>>
>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>>
>> Some newbie questions:
>>
>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>
>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>>
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>>
>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>>
>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>>
>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>>
>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
you can check which versions are installed in chrome by navigating to
"chrome://plugins/" from chrome. in the new page, click on "details" on
right hand side.
the first plugin(s) listed should be Flash Player and the descriptions
should tell you what is installed - just "disable" the version you don't
want running.
On 23/10/2013 00:01, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
>
> When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
>
> re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
> player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
> separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
> switch between versions)
>
> On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>>
>> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>>
>> Some newbie questions:
>>
>> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>>
>> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>>
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>>
>> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>>
>> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>>
>> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>>
>> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>>
>> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>
>> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by mo...@comcast.net.
Thanks Lee, makes a lot of sense. Looks like I've already got non-debugger and debugger versions installed in Chrome, although you can't tell by the label -- they both reference 11.9.900.117, so perhaps there's one install for both debugger and non-debugger versions? (no idea)
When I followed Adobe's standard install for the debugger, it appears to have installed on all browsers in my system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Burrows" <su...@leeburrows.com>
To: users@flex.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:49:16 PM
Subject: Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
switch between versions)
On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>
> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>
> Some newbie questions:
>
> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>
> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>
> Is that correct?
>
> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>
> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>
> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>
> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>
> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>
>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and
debugger versions
Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
re 2, i use debugger player in one browser (IE in my case) and default
player in another (chrome). If you use chrome, i think you can install 2
separate version of flash player (enter chrome://plugins/ into chrome to
switch between versions)
On 22/10/2013 23:37, modjklist@comcast.net wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have some places in my app when entering a new state is not very responsive (a lot of math is computed within a frame and causes the system to display a spinning wheel while the CPU catches up, lasting about 5 seconds). I want to try placing some callLater() functions to break up the one long frame into several smaller frames, to make the app more smoothly transition from one state to the next.
>
> I'd like to use Scout to time the execution of various functions to figure out where to place callLater(). So far, all my development has been on the debugger version of Flash Player 11.9.900.117 (the current version).
>
> Some newbie questions:
>
> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information using the techniques discussed here:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/scout/articles/adobe-scout-custom-telemetry.html
>
> (e.g. trace(), Telemetry.sendMetric(), and Telemetry.sendSpanMetric)
>
> Is that correct?
>
> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions? Do I need to uninstall the debugger first, then install the non-debugger version? Then if I want to go back to the non-debugger version, do I need to uninstall the non-debugger version, and then install the debugger version?
>
> Or, is there really only one install needed, and then somehow in the browser select a switch that turns the debugger on/off?
>
> I'm really confused on this because when I right-click on my running app, it shows I'm using 11.9.900,117, although it doesn't say debugger or not. If I go to this website:
>
> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
>
> it does indeed show "Debug Player: Yes". However, when I search google to install non-debugger Flash Player, it brings me to
>
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>
> which says it will install version 11.9.900.117 -- which is what I already have installed, right !? So, there must be something I'm missing. How do I install the non-debugger Flash Player?
>
>
>
--
Lee Burrows
ActionScripter
Re: newbie on profiling with Scout, Flex, and FP non-debugger and debugger versions
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> 1. My understanding in reading about Scout is that the debugger version is only required for memory profiling. Thus, I can use the non-debugger version to get accurate timing information
Correct.
> 2. What's the best way to switch between debugger and non-debugger flash player versions?
Run in two different browsers, having installed the debug version in one and the non debug in the other. Chrome comes with the non debug browser.
Justin