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Posted to dev@taverna.apache.org by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> on 2020/02/03 14:07:50 UTC
[VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Hi,
I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
Foundation in 2014.
It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
services has changed significantly since then.
For more information about what retirement means, see
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
they are no longer maintained.
I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
later wants to reboot the activity.
See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
[ ] +1 Retire Taverna
[ ] 0 Undecided
[ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
lazy consensus.
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Gale Naylor <Ga...@noventussolutions.com>.
[+1] Grateful for being along for the ride
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 7:27 AM Sube Singh <su...@hcl.com> wrote:
> [ -1] Do not retire Taverna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> Sent: 03 February 2020 07:38 PM
> To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
>
> Hi,
>
> I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
>
> While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
>
> It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
>
> I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
>
>
> I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time and
> effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software Foundation
> in 2014.
>
>
> It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring Taverna
> from the Apache Incubator.
>
>
> I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion, this
> project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web services
> has changed significantly since then.
>
>
> For more information about what retirement means, see
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
>
> In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> they are no longer maintained.
>
> I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> later wants to reboot the activity.
>
>
> See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
>
>
>
> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>
> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> [ ] 0 Undecided
> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> lazy consensus.
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
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RE: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Sube Singh <su...@hcl.com>.
[ -1] Do not retire Taverna
-----Original Message-----
From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
Sent: 03 February 2020 07:38 PM
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Hi,
I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software Foundation in 2014.
It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion, this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web services has changed significantly since then.
For more information about what retirement means, see
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
they are no longer maintained.
I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
later wants to reboot the activity.
See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
[ ] +1 Retire Taverna
[ ] 0 Undecided
[ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
lazy consensus.
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by "Donal K. Fellows" <do...@manchester.ac.uk>.
On 03/02/2020 14:07, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>
> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> [ ] 0 Undecided
> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
Sorry for not noticing the vote earlier.
[x] 0 Undecided
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Gale Naylor <Ga...@noventussolutions.com>.
Thank you, Stian!
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 4:57 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 Retire
>
> Thank you, Sagar and everyone!
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:28:06 +0530, Sagar <ku...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > [+1] Learned a lot with you. Thanks
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Feb, 2020, 12:52 am Serban Mardaloescu, <
> > serban.stefanita@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > [ -1] Do not retire Taverna
> > >
> > > În lun., 3 feb. 2020 la 16:08, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> a
> > > scris:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
> > > >
> > > > While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots
> of
> > > > great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
> > > >
> > > > It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the
> incubator
> > > > and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
> > > >
> > > > I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated,
> releases
> > > > not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand
> continued
> > > > volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> > > > and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> > > > Foundation in 2014.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> > > > Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> > > > this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and
> web
> > > > services has changed significantly since then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For more information about what retirement means, see
> > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> > > >
> > > > In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git
> repositories
> > > > to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> > > > they are no longer maintained.
> > > >
> > > > I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> > > > organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> > > > later wants to reboot the activity.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> > > > [ ] 0 Undecided
> > > > [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
> > > >
> > > > The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with
> a
> > > > lazy consensus.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Stian Soiland-Reyes
> > > > https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Stuart Owen <st...@manchester.ac.uk>.
+1 Retire
Thanks Stian and all the contributors that have kept things going as
best they can.
regards,
Stuart.
On 19/02/2020 12:57, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> +1 Retire
>
> Thank you, Sagar and everyone!
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:28:06 +0530, Sagar <ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [+1] Learned a lot with you. Thanks
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Feb, 2020, 12:52 am Serban Mardaloescu, <
>> serban.stefanita@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [ -1] Do not retire Taverna
>>>
>>> În lun., 3 feb. 2020 la 16:08, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> a
>>> scris:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
>>>> great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
>>>>
>>>> It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
>>>> and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
>>>>
>>>> I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
>>>> not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
>>>> volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
>>>> and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
>>>> Foundation in 2014.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
>>>> Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
>>>> this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
>>>> services has changed significantly since then.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For more information about what retirement means, see
>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
>>>>
>>>> In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
>>>> to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
>>>> they are no longer maintained.
>>>>
>>>> I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
>>>> organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
>>>> later wants to reboot the activity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>>>>
>>>> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
>>>> [ ] 0 Undecided
>>>> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
>>>>
>>>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
>>>> lazy consensus.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>>
>>>>
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
+1 Retire
Thank you, Sagar and everyone!
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:28:06 +0530, Sagar <ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [+1] Learned a lot with you. Thanks
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb, 2020, 12:52 am Serban Mardaloescu, <
> serban.stefanita@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > [ -1] Do not retire Taverna
> >
> > În lun., 3 feb. 2020 la 16:08, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> a
> > scris:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
> > >
> > > While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> > > great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
> > >
> > > It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> > > and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
> > >
> > > I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> > > not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> > > volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> > > and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> > > Foundation in 2014.
> > >
> > >
> > > It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> > > Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> > > this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> > > services has changed significantly since then.
> > >
> > >
> > > For more information about what retirement means, see
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> > >
> > > In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> > > to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> > > they are no longer maintained.
> > >
> > > I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> > > organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> > > later wants to reboot the activity.
> > >
> > >
> > > See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
> > >
> > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> > > [ ] 0 Undecided
> > > [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
> > >
> > > The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> > > lazy consensus.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stian Soiland-Reyes
> > > https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> > >
> > >
> >
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Sagar <ku...@gmail.com>.
[+1] Learned a lot with you. Thanks
On Thu, 6 Feb, 2020, 12:52 am Serban Mardaloescu, <
serban.stefanita@gmail.com> wrote:
> [ -1] Do not retire Taverna
>
> În lun., 3 feb. 2020 la 16:08, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> a
> scris:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
> >
> > While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> > great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
> >
> > It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> > and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
> >
> > I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> > not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> > volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
> >
> >
> > I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> > and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> > Foundation in 2014.
> >
> >
> > It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> > Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
> >
> >
> > I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> > this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> > services has changed significantly since then.
> >
> >
> > For more information about what retirement means, see
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> >
> > In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> > to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> > they are no longer maintained.
> >
> > I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> > organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> > later wants to reboot the activity.
> >
> >
> > See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
> >
> >
> >
> > PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
> >
> > [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> > [ ] 0 Undecided
> > [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
> >
> > The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> > lazy consensus.
> >
> > --
> > Stian Soiland-Reyes
> > https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Serban Mardaloescu <se...@gmail.com>.
[ -1] Do not retire Taverna
În lun., 3 feb. 2020 la 16:08, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> a
scris:
> Hi,
>
> I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
>
> While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
>
> It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
>
> I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
>
>
> I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> Foundation in 2014.
>
>
> It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
>
>
> I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> services has changed significantly since then.
>
>
> For more information about what retirement means, see
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
>
> In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> they are no longer maintained.
>
> I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> later wants to reboot the activity.
>
>
> See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
>
>
>
> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>
> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> [ ] 0 Undecided
> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> lazy consensus.
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>
[RESULT] [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
+1 Gale Naylor (binding)
+1 Sagar (binding)
+1 Stian Soiland-Reyes (binding)
+1 Stuart Owen (binding)
-1 Sube Singh
-1 Serban Mardaloescu
With 4 IPMC binding votes, and 2 objections,
the retirement vote for Taverna has passed.
Vote thread:
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r559e0dd047103414fbf48a6ce1bac2e17e67504c546300f2751c067c%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E>
Thank you to all that voted.
I would like to give a large Thank You to Apache Software Foundation,
IPMC, mentors and volunteers for the patience of letting us have a go
at incubating. I think we have learnt a lot.
For retiring we can request moving the Taverna git repositories to
the GitHub organization <https://github.com/taverna> where the
license remains Apache License 2.0, so development can continue at any
pace (or none).
Taverna PPMC folks and other interested; if you have not yet
received an invite, feel free to reply personally with your GitHub
username I can add you there as a "Caretaker".
After de-branding ("Apache Taverna" -> "Taverna") we can also try to
move the website and documentation to GitHub Pages, hopefully ASF will
afford us a HTTP redirect.
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 14:07:50 +0000, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
>
> While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
>
> It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
>
> I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
>
>
> I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> Foundation in 2014.
>
>
> It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
>
>
> I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> services has changed significantly since then.
>
>
> For more information about what retirement means, see
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
>
> In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> they are no longer maintained.
>
> I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> later wants to reboot the activity.
>
>
> See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
>
>
>
> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>
> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> [ ] 0 Undecided
> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> lazy consensus.
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.
Hi,
In order to continue as an Incubator project the PPMC needs to adhere to its responsibilities, that includes submitting prodding reports on time. You have now missed two reports in a row, if you miss three and we continue to get no response as to why, the Incubator PMC will discuss removing the project form the Incubator.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Rajan Maurya <ra...@gmail.com>.
+1 Retire Taverna
Thanks
Rajan Maurya
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:14 PM Shoaib Sufi <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As painful as it is to have to decide:
>
> +1 Retire Taverna
>
> Thanks to Stian and everyone for the excellent work they have put in on
> this project over the years.
>
> Best
> Shoaib
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:08 PM Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
> >
> > While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> > great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
> >
> > It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> > and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
> >
> > I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> > not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> > volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
> >
> >
> > I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> > and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> > Foundation in 2014.
> >
> >
> > It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> > Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
> >
> >
> > I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> > this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> > services has changed significantly since then.
> >
> >
> > For more information about what retirement means, see
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> >
> > In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> > to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> > they are no longer maintained.
> >
> > I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> > organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> > later wants to reboot the activity.
> >
> >
> > See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
> >
> >
> >
> > PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
> >
> > [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> > [ ] 0 Undecided
> > [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
> >
> > The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> > lazy consensus.
> >
> > --
> > Stian Soiland-Reyes
> > https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >
> >
>
--
*Thanks*
*Namaste*
Rajan Maurya
Contact Number : +91 9015090523
Github : @Github/therajanmaurya <https://github.com/therajanmaurya>,
LinkedIn: @LinkedIn/therajanmaurya
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/therajanmaurya/>,
Medium: @medium/therajanmaurya <ht...@therajanmaurya>
Re: [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator?
Posted by Shoaib Sufi <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
As painful as it is to have to decide:
+1 Retire Taverna
Thanks to Stian and everyone for the excellent work they have put in on
this project over the years.
Best
Shoaib
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:08 PM Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
>
> While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
>
> It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
>
> I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
>
>
> I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> Foundation in 2014.
>
>
> It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
>
>
> I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> services has changed significantly since then.
>
>
> For more information about what retirement means, see
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
>
> In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> they are no longer maintained.
>
> I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> later wants to reboot the activity.
>
>
> See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
>
>
>
> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>
> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> [ ] 0 Undecided
> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> lazy consensus.
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>
[RESULT] [VOTE] Retire Taverna from Apache Incubator
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
+1 Gale Naylor (binding)
+1 Sagar (binding)
+1 Stian Soiland-Reyes (binding)
+1 Stuart Owen (binding)
-1 Sube Singh
-1 Serban Mardaloescu
With 4 IPMC binding votes, and 2 objections,
the retirement vote for Taverna has passed.
Vote thread:
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r559e0dd047103414fbf48a6ce1bac2e17e67504c546300f2751c067c%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E>
Thank you to all that voted.
I would like to give a large Thank You to Apache Software Foundation,
IPMC, mentors and volunteers for the patience of letting us have a go
at incubating. I think we have learnt a lot.
For retiring we can request moving the Taverna git repositories to
the GitHub organization <https://github.com/taverna> where the
license remains Apache License 2.0, so development can continue at any
pace (or none).
Taverna PPMC folks and other interested; if you have not yet
received an invite, feel free to reply personally with your GitHub
username I can add you there as a "Caretaker".
After de-branding ("Apache Taverna" -> "Taverna") we can also try to
move the website and documentation to GitHub Pages, hopefully ASF will
afford us a HTTP redirect.
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 14:07:50 +0000, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
>
> While we had a good go at Taverna in the Apache Incubator, and lots of
> great effort over the years, we seem to have ground to a standstill.
>
> It looks now almost impossible that we will graduate from the incubator
> and continue to thrive as a top-level Apache project.
>
> I am as guilty as everyone - emails missed, builds not updated, releases
> not completed. The tasks were not large, but they still demand continued
> volunteer effort, which sadly we now seem to have not got anymore.
>
>
> I think I speak for all of you when I am grateful for all the time
> and effort everyone has committed since we moved to Apache Software
> Foundation in 2014.
>
>
> It is therefore with sadness that I call this vote on retiring
> Taverna from the Apache Incubator.
>
>
> I don't think there is any shame if we come to this conclusion,
> this project started 2003-02-24 and the world of bioinformatics and web
> services has changed significantly since then.
>
>
> For more information about what retirement means, see
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
>
> In terms of codebase my suggestion is that we move the git repositories
> to http://github.com/taverna/ with a clear README indication that
> they are no longer maintained.
>
> I think we should invite anyone on this list to join that GitHub
> organization for a passive curator role, or to delegate if someone
> later wants to reboot the activity.
>
>
> See also previous discussion from 2019-09:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9db87bf752c1b77773f2f0ac5be9afd34d29a7cff76d66728a0f713%40%3Cdev.taverna.apache.org%3E
>
>
>
> PLEASE INDICATE YOUR VOTE:
>
> [ ] +1 Retire Taverna
> [ ] 0 Undecided
> [ ] -1 Do not retire Taverna
>
> The vote is open for at least 72 hours for anyone on this list, with a
> lazy consensus.
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>