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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by Ed Loehr <el...@austin.rr.com> on 2000/02/25 21:37:44 UTC
[POLL/RFC] Modperl GUI Tools?
Once upon a time, before http/html even existed, there were GUI tools
that allowed you to construct a sophisticated interface in a matter of
minutes, complete with an auto-generated application framework code
(callback stubs, etc) in C++/C/etc, data input element
processing/validation code, etc. No explicit X
programming...everything was done automagically, just plug in your
application code (well, sort of). Imagine drag-n-drop auto-generated
embedded perl, maybe as a starting point, with automated customizable
validation of input values without writing a line of perl or
html/embperl...
What are the closest equivalent tools for modperl apps today? Those
that provide the greatest development leverage for the GUI development
of a modperl app?
Cheers,
Ed Loehr
RE: [POLL/RFC] Modperl GUI Tools?
Posted by Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ed@rt-h1.ecos.de [mailto:ed@rt-h1.ecos.de]On Behalf Of Ed Loehr
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 11:08 PM
> To: Gerald Richter
> Cc: mod_perl list
> Subject: Re: [POLL/RFC] Modperl GUI Tools?
>
>
> Gerald Richter wrote:
> >
> > > Once upon a time, before http/html even existed, there were GUI tools
> > > that allowed you to construct a sophisticated interface in a matter of
> > > minutes, complete with an auto-generated application framework code
> > > (callback stubs, etc) in C++/C/etc, data input element
> > > processing/validation code, etc...
> > >
> > > What are the closest equivalent tools for modperl apps today? Those
> > > that provide the greatest development leverage for the GUI development
> > > of a modperl app?
> >
> > You may use Tools like FrontPage or DreamWeaver together with
> an embedding
> > Perl Solution, like Embperl, ASP or Mason. Embperl for example
> has special
> > features to work with the code these tools generate.
>
> Sounds like that may be the state of the art for web-based systems?
>
> Do any of these combinations auto-generate (or otherwise automatically
> setup) modperl (or better still, modperl-generated Javascript) to
> validate inputs based on specified data types (ints, strings, floats,
> etc.)? And all within the context of an extensible modperl handler
> that can be easily extended/supplemented to provide application logic?
>
Frontpage and DreamWeaver both can generate JaveScript for you, but both
don't know about mod_perl
Gerald
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Internetconnect * Webserver/-design/-datenbanken * Consulting
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Re: [POLL/RFC] Modperl GUI Tools?
Posted by Ed Loehr <el...@austin.rr.com>.
Gerald Richter wrote:
>
> > Once upon a time, before http/html even existed, there were GUI tools
> > that allowed you to construct a sophisticated interface in a matter of
> > minutes, complete with an auto-generated application framework code
> > (callback stubs, etc) in C++/C/etc, data input element
> > processing/validation code, etc...
> >
> > What are the closest equivalent tools for modperl apps today? Those
> > that provide the greatest development leverage for the GUI development
> > of a modperl app?
>
> You may use Tools like FrontPage or DreamWeaver together with an embedding
> Perl Solution, like Embperl, ASP or Mason. Embperl for example has special
> features to work with the code these tools generate.
Sounds like that may be the state of the art for web-based systems?
Do any of these combinations auto-generate (or otherwise automatically
setup) modperl (or better still, modperl-generated Javascript) to
validate inputs based on specified data types (ints, strings, floats,
etc.)? And all within the context of an extensible modperl handler
that can be easily extended/supplemented to provide application logic?
Cheers,
Ed Loehr
RE: [POLL/RFC] Modperl GUI Tools?
Posted by Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de>.
> Once upon a time, before http/html even existed, there were GUI tools
> that allowed you to construct a sophisticated interface in a matter of
> minutes, complete with an auto-generated application framework code
> (callback stubs, etc) in C++/C/etc, data input element
> processing/validation code, etc. No explicit X
> programming...everything was done automagically, just plug in your
> application code (well, sort of). Imagine drag-n-drop auto-generated
> embedded perl, maybe as a starting point, with automated customizable
> validation of input values without writing a line of perl or
> html/embperl...
>
> What are the closest equivalent tools for modperl apps today? Those
> that provide the greatest development leverage for the GUI development
> of a modperl app?
>
You may use Tools like FrontPage or DreamWeaver together with an embedding
Perl Solution, like Embperl, ASP or Mason. Embperl for example has special
features to work with the code these tools generate.
Gerald
-------------------------------------------------------------
Gerald Richter ecos electronic communication services gmbh
Internetconnect * Webserver/-design/-datenbanken * Consulting
Post: Tulpenstrasse 5 D-55276 Dienheim b. Mainz
E-Mail: richter@ecos.de Voice: +49 6133 925151
WWW: http://www.ecos.de Fax: +49 6133 925152
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Re: [POLL/RFC] Modperl GUI Tools?
Posted by "G.W. Haywood" <ge...@jubileegroup.co.uk>.
Hi there,
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Ed Loehr wrote:
> Once upon a time,
[snip]
> GUI development of a modperl app?
It's a fairy tale. Count me out.
73,
Ged.