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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Michael Marr <ec...@gmail.com> on 2007/06/25 14:41:59 UTC

Re: Orchestra vs Spring-Annotations

Hi,


Werner Punz-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> That means that every object loaded via this entity manager is assigned 
> to it as long as the scope is active. Connectors currently are provided
> for Hibernate and Standard JPA.
> 
> 

did not find the connector for Hibernate. I do not want to use JPA, but
rather just spring DAOs.
Is a direct Hibernate connector available? If so, how do I use it?

Thanks 
Michael

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Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com>.

>
> how about using jsf-comp.sf.net?
>

I was going to suggest the same, but google is fine too anyway.

Cagatay

On 6/26/07, Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121) <al...@credit-suisse.com>
wrote:
>
> how about using jsf-comp.sf.net?
>
> got initiated for that reason...
> and a few of the components are used...
>
> regards
> Alexander
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Orchestra on code.google.com
>
> Hi!
> > code.google.com is fine for that.
> I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> Any objections about it?
>
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
>
>

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at>.

Hi Jesse!
> how about using jsf-comp.sf.net?
>   
Sure, why not, we can add a orchestra-(extras|nonasf) module.

What about stability of sourceforge lately? I used it in the past, but
was disappointed about speed and reachability.


Ciao,
Mario
> got initiated for that reason... 
> and a few of the components are used...
>
> regards
> Alexander 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at] 
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Orchestra on code.google.com
>
> Hi!
>   
>> code.google.com is fine for that.
>>     
> I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> Any objections about it?
>
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
>
>   


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RE: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)" <al...@credit-suisse.com>.

how about using jsf-comp.sf.net?

got initiated for that reason... 
and a few of the components are used...

regards
Alexander 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:29 PM
To: MyFaces Development
Subject: Orchestra on code.google.com

Hi!
> code.google.com is fine for that.
I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
Any objections about it?


Ciao,
Mario


[1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.

+1

On 6/25/07, Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at> wrote:
> Hi!
> > code.google.com is fine for that.
> I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> Any objections about it?
>
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
>
>


-- 
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further stuff:
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mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.

> Thanks. Looking forward to it. Has any one ported Petstore 2.0 to Spring
> JPA and tomcat or Jetty?

not petstore, but CRUD

code.google.com/p/facesgoodies

> Craig, is there any thought on Shale and WebBeans? (Hope not to offend
> any one on this list)
>
> BaTien
>
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > > > On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > > > > > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > > > > > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > > > > > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > > > > > Any objections about it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > Mario
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > ++1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> > > > was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> > > > project:
> > > >
> > > >   http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > >
> > >
>
>


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mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Dr. Duong BaTien" <du...@dbgroups.com>.

On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 09:39 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote: 
> On 6/26/07, Dr. Duong BaTien <du...@dbgroups.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 13:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > > On 6/26/07, Dr. Duong BaTien <du...@dbgroups.com> wrote:
> > > > Is there anything in shale-goodies yet?
> > >
> > > The beginnings of a Clay based port of the Petstore app, and a few
> > > related experiments.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > Thanks. Looking forward to it. Has any one ported Petstore 2.0 to Spring
> > JPA and tomcat or Jetty?
> >
> > Craig, is there any thought on Shale and WebBeans? (Hope not to offend
> > any one on this list)
> >
> 
> I'm on the expert group for WebBeans[1], along with a bunch of other
> people.  There will definitely be some functional overlap on what
> Shale calls the dialog manager -- you will really really really want
> to pick one framework for that kind of stuff, be it Shale's,
> Trinidad's, Orchestra's, Seam's, WebBeans's, Spring's ... but other
> than that there's no reason you shouldn't be able to use Shale
> features and WebBeans features together, since they are both built on
> top of JSF APIs.
> 
> Craig
> 
Thanks for the insight. It may be useful to define how Shale positions
itself to WebBeans, regardless of what implementation the user may
decide to take.

> [1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299
> 
> > BaTien
> >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > > > > On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > > > > > > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > > > > > > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > > > > > > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > > > > > > Any objections about it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > > Mario
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > ++1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> > > > > was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> > > > > project:
> > > > >
> > > > >   http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> > > > >
> > > > > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.

On 6/28/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Craig McClanahan schrieb:
>
> > I'm on the expert group for WebBeans[1], along with a bunch of other
> > people.  There will definitely be some functional overlap on what
> > Shale calls the dialog manager -- you will really really really want
> > to pick one framework for that kind of stuff, be it Shale's,
> > Trinidad's, Orchestra's, Seam's, WebBeans's, Spring's ... but other
> > than that there's no reason you shouldn't be able to use Shale
> > features and WebBeans features together, since they are both built on
> > top of JSF APIs.
> >
> Btw. Craig, you might be happy to hear, that I started with some
> preliminary Orchestra/Shale integration two days ago.
> I have nothing to show off yet, because I still tinker around with
> things and trying to find myself around in both codebases, but so far
> things look pretty good.
>

Cool ... I just answered your first question on the Shale list, also.

> After three hours of reading the codebase and tinkering with it, I was
> able to fetch orchestra conversational beans within a defined Shale
> Dialog environment and have shale issuing
> the end conversation commands which trigger all the jpa and bean related
> cleanup in orchestra.
>
> Yesterday I managed to bind all conversational beans under one dialog
> to one persistencecontext.
>
> I am still a little bit unclear about some things, but things look very
> good for an integration bridge which is not too hard to configure.
>
> (so far it looks like a special shaledialog scope
> in spring should do the trick)

That makes sense.

>
> If all goes well then Shale dialog will be the first high level
> conversation framework with an orchestra binding.
> Or the other way round the first framework orchestra prodides bindings for.
>

Looking forward to seeing this in action :-).

Craig

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.

Craig McClanahan schrieb:

> I'm on the expert group for WebBeans[1], along with a bunch of other
> people.  There will definitely be some functional overlap on what
> Shale calls the dialog manager -- you will really really really want
> to pick one framework for that kind of stuff, be it Shale's,
> Trinidad's, Orchestra's, Seam's, WebBeans's, Spring's ... but other
> than that there's no reason you shouldn't be able to use Shale
> features and WebBeans features together, since they are both built on
> top of JSF APIs.
> 
Btw. Craig, you might be happy to hear, that I started with some
preliminary Orchestra/Shale integration two days ago.
I have nothing to show off yet, because I still tinker around with
things and trying to find myself around in both codebases, but so far
things look pretty good.

After three hours of reading the codebase and tinkering with it, I was
able to fetch orchestra conversational beans within a defined Shale
Dialog environment and have shale issuing
the end conversation commands which trigger all the jpa and bean related
cleanup in orchestra.

Yesterday I managed to bind all conversational beans under one dialog
to one persistencecontext.

I am still a little bit unclear about some things, but things look very
good for an integration bridge which is not too hard to configure.

(so far it looks like a special shaledialog scope
in spring should do the trick)

If all goes well then Shale dialog will be the first high level
conversation framework with an orchestra binding.
Or the other way round the first framework orchestra prodides bindings for.

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.

On 6/26/07, Dr. Duong BaTien <du...@dbgroups.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 13:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > On 6/26/07, Dr. Duong BaTien <du...@dbgroups.com> wrote:
> > > Is there anything in shale-goodies yet?
> >
> > The beginnings of a Clay based port of the Petstore app, and a few
> > related experiments.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> Thanks. Looking forward to it. Has any one ported Petstore 2.0 to Spring
> JPA and tomcat or Jetty?
>
> Craig, is there any thought on Shale and WebBeans? (Hope not to offend
> any one on this list)
>

I'm on the expert group for WebBeans[1], along with a bunch of other
people.  There will definitely be some functional overlap on what
Shale calls the dialog manager -- you will really really really want
to pick one framework for that kind of stuff, be it Shale's,
Trinidad's, Orchestra's, Seam's, WebBeans's, Spring's ... but other
than that there's no reason you shouldn't be able to use Shale
features and WebBeans features together, since they are both built on
top of JSF APIs.

Craig

[1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299

> BaTien
>
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > > > On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > > > > > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > > > > > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > > > > > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > > > > > Any objections about it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > Mario
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > ++1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> > > > was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> > > > project:
> > > >
> > > >   http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > >
> > >
>
>

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Dr. Duong BaTien" <du...@dbgroups.com>.

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 13:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 6/26/07, Dr. Duong BaTien <du...@dbgroups.com> wrote:
> > Is there anything in shale-goodies yet?
> 
> The beginnings of a Clay based port of the Petstore app, and a few
> related experiments.
> 
> Craig
> 
Thanks. Looking forward to it. Has any one ported Petstore 2.0 to Spring
JPA and tomcat or Jetty?

Craig, is there any thought on Shale and WebBeans? (Hope not to offend
any one on this list)

BaTien

> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > > On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > > > > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > > > > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > > > > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > > > > Any objections about it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > Mario
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > ++1
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> > > was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> > > project:
> > >
> > >   http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> > >
> > > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> > >
> > > Craig
> >
> >

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.

On 6/26/07, Dr. Duong BaTien <du...@dbgroups.com> wrote:
> Is there anything in shale-goodies yet?

The beginnings of a Clay based port of the Petstore app, and a few
related experiments.

Craig

>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > > > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > > > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > > > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > > > Any objections about it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Mario
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ++1
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> > was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> > project:
> >
> >   http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> >
> > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> >
> > Craig
>
>

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Dr. Duong BaTien" <du...@dbgroups.com>.

Is there anything in shale-goodies yet?

Thanks

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:47 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > > Hi!
> > >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > > Any objections about it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Mario
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> > >
> > >
> > ++1
> >
> >
> 
> That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> project:
> 
>   http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> 
> Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> 
> Craig

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at>.

Hi Dennis!
> Perhaps this has been covered already, but does it have binary deps on
> MyFaces?  Or just the JSF API?
No deps to MyFaces, else it would be a bug.

> If Orchstra has no dep on the MyFaces implementation, you may be able
> to open this up to more users and you wouldn't have to find a new name
> - just add it to facesgoodies.
Yea, but then jsf-comp.sf.net might be a better and already known place, no?

Ciao,
Mario

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Dennis Byrne <de...@apache.org>.

Perhaps this has been covered already, but does it have binary deps on
MyFaces?  Or just the JSF API?  If Orchstra has no dep on the MyFaces
implementation, you may be able to open this up to more users and you
wouldn't have to find a new name - just add it to facesgoodies.

Dennis Byrne

On 6/26/07, Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> > Kito D. Mann schrieb:
> >
> >> I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
> >> "FacesGoodies" [1] :-).
> >>
> >> [1] http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
> >>
> >>
> > Why not adding it to facesgoodies then?
> >
> I understand facesgoodies as template for quickstarting an application.
>
> I'd opt for the project name "myfaces-orchestra-extras" if we think
> "nonasf" is too "non standard".
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>

-- 
Dennis Byrne

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.

no.

I want use ochestra in facesgoodies, soon.
but ochestra is different

I don't understand the complete discussion on the project name..
Mario's link is fine IMO

-M

On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kito D. Mann schrieb:
> > I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
> > "FacesGoodies" [1] :-).
> >
> > [1] http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
> >
> Why not adding it to facesgoodies then?
>
>


-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

further stuff:
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at>.

Hi!
> Kito D. Mann schrieb:
>   
>> I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
>> "FacesGoodies" [1] :-).
>>
>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
>>
>>     
> Why not adding it to facesgoodies then?
>   
I understand facesgoodies as template for quickstarting an application.

I'd opt for the project name "myfaces-orchestra-extras" if we think
"nonasf" is too "non standard".

Ciao,
Mario

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.

Kito D. Mann schrieb:
> I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
> "FacesGoodies" [1] :-).
> 
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/
> 
Why not adding it to facesgoodies then?

RE: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.

I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
"FacesGoodies" [1] :-).

[1] http://code.google.com/p/facesgoodies/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@sea.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Werner Punz
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:49 AM
> To: dev@myfaces.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Orchestra on code.google.com
> 
> Craig McClanahan schrieb:
> 
> >
> > That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention
> that
> > was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> > project:
> >
> >  http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> >
> > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> >
> > Craig
> >
> 
> Excellent suggestion Craig...

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.

Craig McClanahan schrieb:

> 
> That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
> was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
> project:
> 
>  http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies
> 
> Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> 
> Craig
> 

Excellent suggestion Craig...

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.

For me, I'd say myfaces-orchestra-goodies tells me more than JSF-comp
about what to expect from this library, so

+1 for myfaces-orchestra-goodies (on code.google.com)

regards,

Martin

On 6/27/07, Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1,
>
> > Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license compatible
> > stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )
>
> Yeah they will, for example JSF ChartCreator uses JFreeChart which is LGPL;)
>
> Cagatay
>
> On 6/27/07, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Use the module name myfaces-orchestra-goodies.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > go ahead ! :)
> >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Mario
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
>
>


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Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com>.

+1,

Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license compatible
> stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )


Yeah they will, for example JSF ChartCreator uses JFreeChart which is LGPL;)

Cagatay

On 6/27/07, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Use the module name myfaces-orchestra-goodies.
>
> +1
>
> go ahead ! :)
>
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mario
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.

> Use the module name myfaces-orchestra-goodies.

+1

go ahead ! :)

> What do you think?
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>


-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

further stuff:
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org

RE: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)" <al...@credit-suisse.com>.

I do what I can, be pointing it out, whenever a question pops up on
something we have there...

but you are right, more publicity makes sense...

regards
Alexander 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kito D. Mann [mailto:kmann@virtua.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:51 PM
To: 'MyFaces Development'
Subject: RE: Orchestra on code.google.com

If you guys decide to use JSF comp, I suggest pushing them for a little
better PR. No one really knows all of the goodies they have...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew.rw.robinson@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:50 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Re: Orchestra on code.google.com
> 
> > Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license
> compatible
> > stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )
> 
> No problem with me to use Jsf-Comp

RE: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.

If you guys decide to use JSF comp, I suggest pushing them for a little
better PR. No one really knows all of the goodies they have...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew.rw.robinson@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:50 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Re: Orchestra on code.google.com
> 
> > Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license
> compatible
> > stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )
> 
> No problem with me to use Jsf-Comp

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Andrew Robinson <an...@gmail.com>.

> Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license compatible
> stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )

No problem with me to use Jsf-Comp

RE: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by "Jesse Alexander (KSFD 121)" <al...@credit-suisse.com>.

Of course we accept it...
We put jsf-comp to live to have a haven for non-adf-compatible stuff.
Better host it on such a side-project, than nowhere...

module name is up to you. (Personally i think it is a little bit long,
but the module-creator is in the driver seat).

Just give me an info, when you decide upon it and tell me the
module-name, than I will setup the file-delivery-package (seems that's
about the only thing only admins can do).

regards
Alexander 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:57 AM
To: MyFaces Development
Subject: Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Cagatay Civici wrote:
> Mario,
>
>     What about stability of sourceforge lately? I used it in the past,
but
>     was disappointed about speed and reachability. 
>
>
> I had no problems with sourceforge for a long time when working on
> jsf-comp.
Ok, so lets sum up ...

Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license compatible
stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )
Use the module name myfaces-orchestra-goodies.

What do you think?

Ciao,
Mario

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at>.

Cagatay Civici wrote:
> Mario,
>
>     What about stability of sourceforge lately? I used it in the past, but
>     was disappointed about speed and reachability. 
>
>
> I had no problems with sourceforge for a long time when working on
> jsf-comp.
Ok, so lets sum up ...

Use the jsf-comp space for myfaces-orchestra non-asf license compatible
stuff. (Given the project owners accept it ;-) )
Use the module name myfaces-orchestra-goodies.

What do you think?

Ciao,
Mario

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com>.

Mario,

What about stability of sourceforge lately? I used it in the past, but
> was disappointed about speed and reachability.


I had no problems with sourceforge for a long time when working on jsf-comp.

Cagatay

On 6/26/07, Mario Ivankovits <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Craig wrote:
> > Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
> Yepp ... sound nice ;-)
>
>
> Kito D. Mann wrote:
> > I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
> > "FacesGoodies" [1]  :-) .
> >
> would be myfaces-orchestra-goodies, should be enough dissociation
> between FacesGoodies then, I hope so.
>
> And when I think about, this project is a mixture of just non asf
> license compatible code and, yea - for sure, some goodies possible due
> to direct connection to e.g. hibernate.
> I have a nice ActionListener which will close the conversation if a
> exception has been thrown and some database update has taken place ...
> definitely a goodie - I like it :-) - but requires some sort of
> Interceptor for hibernate.
>
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@gmail.com>.

Craig wrote:
> Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?
Yepp ... sound nice ;-)

Kito D. Mann wrote:
> I don't know -- this might be confusing since Matthias already has
> "FacesGoodies" [1]  :-) .
>   
would be myfaces-orchestra-goodies, should be enough dissociation
between FacesGoodies then, I hope so.

And when I think about, this project is a mixture of just non asf
license compatible code and, yea - for sure, some goodies possible due
to direct connection to e.g. hibernate.
I have a nice ActionListener which will close the conversation if a
exception has been thrown and some database update has taken place ...
definitely a goodie - I like it :-) - but requires some sort of
Interceptor for hibernate.

Ciao,
Mario

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.

On 6/26/07, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> > Hi!
> >> code.google.com is fine for that.
> > I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> > allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> > depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> > Any objections about it?
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mario
> >
> >
> > [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> >
> >
> ++1
>
>

That name works, of course, but I also like the naming convention that
was used for Shale "extras" that didn't fit into the usual Shale
project:

  http://code.google.com/p/shale-goodies

Doesn't "myfaces-goodies" have a nice ring?

Craig

Re: Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.

Mario Ivankovits schrieb:
> Hi!
>> code.google.com is fine for that.
> I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
> allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
> depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
> Any objections about it?
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> Mario
> 
> 
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf
> 
> 
++1

Orchestra on code.google.com

Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at>.

Hi!
> code.google.com is fine for that.
I'd like to start a project at code.google.com to host any code not
allowed (or not easily allowed) by the policy of ASF. e.g. when
depending on (L)GPL code. I reserved a name already [1].
Any objections about it?


Ciao,
Mario


[1] http://code.google.com/p/myfaces-orchestra-nonasf