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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Laurent Comte <la...@oodrive.fr> on 2002/03/27 15:42:32 UTC
Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
I was very surprised to see how it's difficult to configure Tomcat with
Apache and for now : "I can't get no satisfaction ..."
But it seems to be very easy to install Tomcat and execute in "stand-alone"
mode ...
So I ask you : who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
environment ? Why and why not ? Is it ok ?
Yes, I read this FAQ :
"What are the advantages/disadvantages of using Tomcat's built-in HTTP
server instead of, say, Apache?
Regarding Tomcat's disadvantages when used as a stand-alone server, here is
a list reproduced from the Tomcat-Apache HOWTO page:
Tomcat is not as fast as Apache when it comes to static pages.
Tomcat is not as configurable as Apache.
Tomcat is not as robust as Apache.
There are many sites with long time investment in certain web servers, for
example, sites that are using CGI scripts/Server API modules/perl/php. We
cannot assume that all of them will want to ditch this legacy.
The page further says that " For all these reasons it is recommended that
real world sites use an industrial strength web server, such as Apache, for
serving the static content of the site, and use Tomcat as a Servlet/JSP
add-on."
The main thing that Tomcat has going for it is that it the official
reference implementation of the Java Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1
technologies developed under the Apache license by some of the best
developers around the world."
Thank you.
L.C.
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RE: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by Anthony Eden <ae...@signaturedomains.com>.
Here is my posting to the Java Developer Forum for JSSE which never received a response:
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=2&thread=200414
In this I mention the JSSE FAQ which is here:
http://java.sun.com/products/jsse/FAQ.html
Check the last entry where it says: Runtime Exception: No Cipher Suites in Common
Sincerely,
Anthony Eden
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taavi Tiirik [mailto:taavi@ibs.ee]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:56 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Cc: Anthony Eden
> Subject: Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
> environment ?
>
>
> Anthony,
>
> Where can I read more about this issue? I have used self-issued
> certificate so far and have not encountered any problems. Now
> that you say there are issues... it may be more reasonable to let
> apache do the https part.
>
> Anybody else experiencing problems with Tomcat and Thawte
> certificates?
>
> with best wishes,
> Taavi
>
> > I was unable to get it working with my Thawte certificate (which works
> > fine in Apache). After some research I determined that there is an
> > issue with the JSSE from Sun which prevents certain certs from working.
> > Has this changed recently? Personally I would much rather remove Apache
> > from the chain as it is really doing nothing for me other than handling
> > the SSL decoding and then passing the request to Tomcat.
>
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Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by Taavi Tiirik <ta...@ibs.ee>.
Anthony,
Where can I read more about this issue? I have used self-issued
certificate so far and have not encountered any problems. Now
that you say there are issues... it may be more reasonable to let
apache do the https part.
Anybody else experiencing problems with Tomcat and Thawte
certificates?
with best wishes,
Taavi
> I was unable to get it working with my Thawte certificate (which works
> fine in Apache). After some research I determined that there is an
> issue with the JSSE from Sun which prevents certain certs from working.
> Has this changed recently? Personally I would much rather remove Apache
> from the chain as it is really doing nothing for me other than handling
> the SSL decoding and then passing the request to Tomcat.
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RE: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by Anthony Eden <ae...@signaturedomains.com>.
I was unable to get it working with my Thawte certificate (which works
fine in Apache). After some research I determined that there is an
issue with the JSSE from Sun which prevents certain certs from working.
Has this changed recently? Personally I would much rather remove Apache
from the chain as it is really doing nothing for me other than handling
the SSL decoding and then passing the request to Tomcat.
Sincerely,
Anthony Eden
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taavi Tiirik [mailto:taavi@ibs.ee]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:43 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in
> production environment ?
>
>
> > If I do not need SSL then I use Tomcat standalone.
> > If I need SSL I use Apache + OpenSSL & Tomcat with
> mod_webapp. Both
> > configurations work fine.
>
> Anthony,
>
> Why is it so? Tomcat with SSL works just fine.
>
> Taavi
>
>
>
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jndi resource question
Posted by Daryn Nakhuda <da...@marinated.org>.
I have two different jndi resources I'm trying to setup in tomcat 4. The
first is a javax.sql.Datasource, the second is a
com.sun.forte4j.persistence.PersistenceManagerFactoryImpl.
1. The datasource works, but doesn't seem to be pooling. Any clues? what's
with this tyrex i keep reading about. :)
2. The PersistenceManagerFactoryImpl doesn't work. I get this error:
------
javax.naming.NamingException: Cannot create resource instance
at
org.apache.naming.factory.ResourceFactory.getObjectInstance(ResourceFactory.java:167)
at
javax.naming.spi.NamingManager.getObjectInstance(NamingManager.java:311)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:835)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:181)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:822)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:181)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:822)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:181)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:822)
at org.apache.naming.NamingContext.lookup(NamingContext.java:194)
at
org.apache.naming.SelectorContext.lookup(SelectorContext.java:183)
at javax.naming.InitialContext.lookup(InitialContext.java:354)
------
I don't know if I really need to set this up in jndi, or not, but I was
also having problems just creating it from the datasource, so I thought
I'd give it a try. My server.xml, web.xml, and code bits are below.
Thanks,
Daryn
Server.xml
----------
<Resource name="jdbc/sadb" auth="Container" type="javax.sql.DataSource"/>
<ResourceParams name="jdbc/sadb">
<parameter>
<name>driverClassName</name>
<value>org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver</value>
</parameter>
<parameter>
<name>driverName</name>
<value>jdbc:mysql://127.0.0.1/dbmail</value>
</parameter>
<parameter>
<name>user</name>
<value>foo</value>
</parameter>
<parameter>
<name>password</name>
<value>bar</value>
</parameter>
</ResourceParams>
<Resource name="jdo/sajdo" auth="Container" type="com.sun.forte4j.persistence.PersistenceM
anagerFactoryImpl"/>
<ResourceParams name="jdo/sajdo">
<parameter>
<name>ConnectionFactoryName</name>
<value>jdbc/sadb</value>
</parameter>
</ResourceParams>
-----------------------
web.xml
<resource-ref>
<res-ref-name>
jdbc/sadb
</res-ref-name>
<res-type>
javax.sql.DataSource
</res-type>
<res-auth>
Container
</res-auth>
</resource-ref>
<resource-ref>
<res-ref-name>
jdo/sajdo
</res-ref-name>
<res-type>
com.sun.forte4j.persistence.PersistenceManagerFactoryImpl
</res-type>
<res-auth>
Container
</res-auth>
</resource-ref>
---------------------
code (servlet that is loaded on startup, this is in init() )
---------
InitialContext initialContext = new InitialContext();
ds = (DataSource) initialContext.lookup("java:comp/env/jdbc/sadb");
pmf = (PersistenceManagerFactoryImpl) initialContext.lookup("java:comp/env/jdo/saj
do");
it chokes on the second line.
I've also tried
pmf = new PersistenceManagerFactoryImpl();
pmf.setConnectionFactoryName("java:comp/env/jdbc/sadb");
to no avail..
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Problems with concurrent users accessing servlets on Apache1.3.22-Tomcat 4.0
Posted by Satish Mahankali <sa...@wipro.com>.
Hi,
I have the following environment setup
Apache 1.3.22, Tomcat 4.0, Connector:WARP, OS: Windows 2000
Our JSP's/Servlets work perfectly fine when a single user is accessing the
same.
For some reason when two or more users access our web site concurrently,
we get wierd results where an Internal Server Error with HTTP 500 - Page
Cannot be displayed is thrown back to the browser. Then I thought the
problem may be because of our servlets but then, put a sleep of 10 sec in
the example servlets of Tomcat4.0 (RequestInfoExample.java) and still
getting the same results with Tomcat example Servlets as well. The whole
setup seems to be behaving like where only one user can use the system at
the same time.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Here's the configuration:
APACHE: httpd.conf
==================
LoadModule webapp_module modules/mod_webapp.so
AddModule mod_webapp.c
NameVirtualHost ggnnok108220
WebAppConnection conn warp localhost:8008
<VirtualHost ggnnok108220:80>
serverName ggnnok108220
WebAppDeploy examples conn /examples/
</VirtualHost>
SSLMutex sem
SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
SSLSessionCache none
SSLLog logs/SSL.log
SSLLogLevel error
<VirtualHost ggnnok108220:443>
serverName ggnnok108220
#WebAppDeploy IPDC conn /IPDC/
WebAppDeploy examples conn /examples/
SSLEngine On
SSLCertificateFile conf/ssl/test-ipdc.cert
SSLCertificateKeyFile conf/ssl/test-ipdc.key
</VirtualHost>
Tomcat: Server.xml configuration
================================
<Server port="8005" shutdown="SHUTDOWN" debug="0">
<Service name="Tomcat-Apache">
<Connector className="org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnector"
port="8008" minProcessors="5" maxProcessors="75"
enableLookups="false"
acceptCount="10" debug="0"/>
<!-- Replace "localhost" with what your Apache "ServerName" is set
to -->
<Engine className="org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpEngine"
name="Apache" debug="0" appBase="webapps">
<!-- Global logger unless overridden at lower levels -->
<Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger"
prefix="apache_log." suffix=".txt"
timestamp="true"/>
<!-- Because this Realm is here, an instance will be shared
globally -->
<Realm className="org.apache.catalina.realm.MemoryRealm" />
</Engine>
</Service>
</Server>
Regards,
Satish.
Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by Taavi Tiirik <ta...@ibs.ee>.
> If I do not need SSL then I use Tomcat standalone.
> If I need SSL I use Apache + OpenSSL & Tomcat with
> mod_webapp. Both configurations work fine.
Anthony,
Why is it so? Tomcat with SSL works just fine.
Taavi
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RE: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by Anthony Eden <ae...@signaturedomains.com>.
If I do not need SSL then I use Tomcat standalone. If I need SSL I use Apache + OpenSSL & Tomcat with mod_webapp. Both
configurations work fine.
Sincerely,
Anthony Eden
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurent Comte [mailto:laurent@oodrive.fr]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:17 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
> environment ?
>
>
> Hmm hmm ... Not so hard, but look at the messages of this group ... ;-)
>
> For the configuration, I tried both on Windows and Linux, but I don't want
> to go in details for now ...
>
> But my question was : "Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in a
> production environment ?"
>
> L.C.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
> Envoye : mercredi 27 mars 2002 16:36
> A : Tomcat Users List
> Objet : Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
> environment ?
>
>
> Look, it is really not that hard.... e-mail me with your platform and
> I'll tell you what to do for apache/tomcat configuration, if I can
> figure it out you can.
>
> todd
> http://www.wiserlabz.com
> collaborative effort to promote Novell and Open Source solutions
>
>
>
> Laurent Comte wrote:
>
> >I was very surprised to see how it's difficult to configure Tomcat with
> >Apache and for now : "I can't get no satisfaction ..."
> >But it seems to be very easy to install Tomcat and execute in "stand-alone"
> >mode ...
> >
> >So I ask you : who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
> >environment ? Why and why not ? Is it ok ?
> >
> >
> >Yes, I read this FAQ :
> >"What are the advantages/disadvantages of using Tomcat's built-in HTTP
> >server instead of, say, Apache?
> >
> >Regarding Tomcat's disadvantages when used as a stand-alone server, here is
> >a list reproduced from the Tomcat-Apache HOWTO page:
> >Tomcat is not as fast as Apache when it comes to static pages.
> >Tomcat is not as configurable as Apache.
> >Tomcat is not as robust as Apache.
> >
> >There are many sites with long time investment in certain web servers, for
> >example, sites that are using CGI scripts/Server API modules/perl/php. We
> >cannot assume that all of them will want to ditch this legacy.
> >The page further says that " For all these reasons it is recommended that
> >real world sites use an industrial strength web server, such as Apache, for
> >serving the static content of the site, and use Tomcat as a Servlet/JSP
> >add-on."
> >The main thing that Tomcat has going for it is that it the official
> >reference implementation of the Java Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1
> >technologies developed under the Apache license by some of the best
> >developers around the world."
> >
> >
> >Thank you.
> >L.C.
> >
> >
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RE: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by Laurent Comte <la...@oodrive.fr>.
Hmm hmm ... Not so hard, but look at the messages of this group ... ;-)
For the configuration, I tried both on Windows and Linux, but I don't want
to go in details for now ...
But my question was : "Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in a
production environment ?"
L.C.
-----Message d'origine-----
De : todd tredeau [mailto:todd@wisernet.com]
Envoye : mercredi 27 mars 2002 16:36
A : Tomcat Users List
Objet : Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
environment ?
Look, it is really not that hard.... e-mail me with your platform and
I'll tell you what to do for apache/tomcat configuration, if I can
figure it out you can.
todd
http://www.wiserlabz.com
collaborative effort to promote Novell and Open Source solutions
Laurent Comte wrote:
>I was very surprised to see how it's difficult to configure Tomcat with
>Apache and for now : "I can't get no satisfaction ..."
>But it seems to be very easy to install Tomcat and execute in "stand-alone"
>mode ...
>
>So I ask you : who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
>environment ? Why and why not ? Is it ok ?
>
>
>Yes, I read this FAQ :
>"What are the advantages/disadvantages of using Tomcat's built-in HTTP
>server instead of, say, Apache?
>
>Regarding Tomcat's disadvantages when used as a stand-alone server, here is
>a list reproduced from the Tomcat-Apache HOWTO page:
>Tomcat is not as fast as Apache when it comes to static pages.
>Tomcat is not as configurable as Apache.
>Tomcat is not as robust as Apache.
>
>There are many sites with long time investment in certain web servers, for
>example, sites that are using CGI scripts/Server API modules/perl/php. We
>cannot assume that all of them will want to ditch this legacy.
>The page further says that " For all these reasons it is recommended that
>real world sites use an industrial strength web server, such as Apache, for
>serving the static content of the site, and use Tomcat as a Servlet/JSP
>add-on."
>The main thing that Tomcat has going for it is that it the official
>reference implementation of the Java Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1
>technologies developed under the Apache license by some of the best
>developers around the world."
>
>
>Thank you.
>L.C.
>
>
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Re: Who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production environment ?
Posted by todd tredeau <to...@wisernet.com>.
Look, it is really not that hard.... e-mail me with your platform and
I'll tell you what to do for apache/tomcat configuration, if I can
figure it out you can.
todd
http://www.wiserlabz.com
collaborative effort to promote Novell and Open Source solutions
Laurent Comte wrote:
>I was very surprised to see how it's difficult to configure Tomcat with
>Apache and for now : "I can't get no satisfaction ..."
>But it seems to be very easy to install Tomcat and execute in "stand-alone"
>mode ...
>
>So I ask you : who use Tomcat as a stand-alone server in production
>environment ? Why and why not ? Is it ok ?
>
>
>Yes, I read this FAQ :
>"What are the advantages/disadvantages of using Tomcat's built-in HTTP
>server instead of, say, Apache?
>
>Regarding Tomcat's disadvantages when used as a stand-alone server, here is
>a list reproduced from the Tomcat-Apache HOWTO page:
>Tomcat is not as fast as Apache when it comes to static pages.
>Tomcat is not as configurable as Apache.
>Tomcat is not as robust as Apache.
>
>There are many sites with long time investment in certain web servers, for
>example, sites that are using CGI scripts/Server API modules/perl/php. We
>cannot assume that all of them will want to ditch this legacy.
>The page further says that " For all these reasons it is recommended that
>real world sites use an industrial strength web server, such as Apache, for
>serving the static content of the site, and use Tomcat as a Servlet/JSP
>add-on."
>The main thing that Tomcat has going for it is that it the official
>reference implementation of the Java Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1
>technologies developed under the Apache license by some of the best
>developers around the world."
>
>
>Thank you.
>L.C.
>
>
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