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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> on 2011/06/20 23:30:14 UTC
[ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
Anonymous viewing is allowed.
In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
The Community wiki is for everyone.
The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:24 AM, eric b <er...@free.fr> wrote:
> Even for a wiki ?
>
> I won't sign any *LA. Sorry, I was wrong to believe it could be possible to
> contribute without sign that.
>
Note that this is not a copyright aggregation agreement like
Sun/Oracle had. Have you read the Apache iCLA:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
What part(s) of it did you find objectionable?
-Rob
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by IngridvdM <In...@gmx-topmail.de>.
Hi Eric,
Am 21.06.2011 08:24, schrieb eric b:
[...]
> I won't sign any *LA. Sorry, I was wrong to believe it could be possible
> to contribute without sign that.
>
[...]
>
> No problem, I won't bother anymore.
>
> Good luck with Apache OpenOffice.org
>
> Eric Bachard
>
I respect your will to not sign. This is your very own decision.
Nevertheless I think you can do valuable contributions to this project.
For example you could provide user experiences from the university or
point your students to this project. Maybe they are willing to sign. You
also can be the link to your own projects. I am convinced that your
projects EducOO.org and OOo4Kids will benefit from a constructive
cooperation too.
Kind regards,
Ingrid
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by eric b <er...@free.fr>.
Hi,
Le 21 juin 11 à 00:13, Dave Fisher a écrit :
>>
>>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>>
>>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account
>>> at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for
>>> you to use it for the wiki.
>>>
>>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The community wiki is the perfect place for the Education Project.
>
One main goal of the Education Project was to provide code, as
OpenOffice.org developer myself.
>>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
>>> Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC,
>>> OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an
>>> ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized,
>>> once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access
>>> rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are people willing to contribute to the developer wiki forced to
>> sign the ICLA ? Why if it is, as written above, for project
>> planning and documentation ?
>
> Anything that might become part of a release must be Apache
> Licensed. By signing the ICLA you acknowledge that you are
> contributing what you have the right to contribute.
> If you want to contribute, but don't want to sign an ICLA go ahead
> and use the Community Wiki.
Even for a wiki ?
I won't sign any *LA. Sorry, I was wrong to believe it could be
possible to contribute without sign that.
> Think of it like this the developer wiki is behind the IP/Licensing
> Firewall and the community wiki is in the DMZ at a similar level of
> IP control to bugzilla, the mailing list and user forums.
> Sorry, the language was unfortunate and I should have explained the
> Community Wiki is the place for Community Planning.
No problem, I won't bother anymore.
Good luck with Apache OpenOffice.org
Eric Bachard
--
qɔᴉɹə
Education Project:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 20, 2011, at 2:48 PM, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Le 20 juin 11 à 23:30, Dave Fisher a écrit :
>
>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>
>
> Thanks a lot for the announce => account successfully created :-)
>
>
>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>
>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
>>
>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
The community wiki is the perfect place for the Education Project.
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>
>
>
> Are people willing to contribute to the developer wiki forced to sign the ICLA ? Why if it is, as written above, for project planning and documentation ?
Anything that might become part of a release must be Apache Licensed. By signing the ICLA you acknowledge that you are contributing what you have the right to contribute.
If you want to contribute, but don't want to sign an ICLA go ahead and use the Community Wiki.
Think of it like this the developer wiki is behind the IP/Licensing Firewall and the community wiki is in the DMZ at a similar level of IP control to bugzilla, the mailing list and user forums.
Sorry, the language was unfortunate and I should have explained the Community Wiki is the place for Community Planning.
Regards,
Dave
>
>
> Regards,
> Eric Bachard
>
>
> --
> qɔᴉɹə
> Education Project:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
> Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
> L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
> Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by eric b <er...@free.fr>.
Hi,
Le 20 juin 11 à 23:30, Dave Fisher a écrit :
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the
> Apache OpenOffice.org project.
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://
> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://
> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
Thanks a lot for the announce => account successfully created :-)
> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>
> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for
> you to use it for the wiki.
>
> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
> Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC,
> OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an
> ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized,
> once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights
> by replying to this email with your ID.
Are people willing to contribute to the developer wiki forced to sign
the ICLA ? Why if it is, as written above, for project planning and
documentation ?
Regards,
Eric Bachard
--
qɔᴉɹə
Education Project:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by IngridvdM <In...@gmx-topmail.de>.
Am 21.06.2011 11:06, schrieb Frank Peters:
> Am 20.06.2011 23:30, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
>> OpenOffice.org project.
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>>
>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>
>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>
>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you
>> to use it for the wiki.
>>
>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>>
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
>
> So where does user documentation content go? The community wiki says
> that it would not be for "core developer documentation".
> What does this term mean? I assume that all documentation content
> on the current OOo wiki including the Developer's Guide
> is to be placed on the community wiki?
>
I think everything that is intended to be shipped with the product,
needs to be in the OOODEV wiki at least to ensure it has the correct
license for shipping. Right?
Kind regards,
Ingrid
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Frank Peters <fr...@googlemail.com>.
Am 20.06.2011 23:30, schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
> OpenOffice.org project.
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>
> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>
> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>
> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you
> to use it for the wiki.
>
> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
So where does user documentation content go? The community wiki says
that it would not be for "core developer documentation".
What does this term mean? I assume that all documentation content
on the current OOo wiki including the Developer's Guide
is to be placed on the community wiki?
Frank
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Done.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>
> Please give me access rights too, sb@apache.org.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stephan
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Stephan Bergmann <st...@googlemail.com>.
On Jun 20, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
Please give me access rights too, sb@apache.org.
Thanks,
-Stephan
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
Thanks!
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Donald,
>
> Sorry for the delay, a business meeting.
>
> I corrected your email in confluence. You are now part of the
> ooo-committers group and have edit access to OOODEV.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:
>
> > Will you please delete my registration. When I attempt to re-register, I
> get
> > "A user with this username already exists."
> > *
> > *
> > Apologies for the bother I've created here.
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dave, I registered, but fear I included a typo in my Apache email
> >> address.
> >>> It should be dpharbison@apache.org
> >>
> >> Without a correct email you will have trouble with confluence in the
> >> future.
> >>
> >> If you forget your password the reset won't have anywhere to go.
> >>
> >> If you setup notifications it will be a problem as well.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> It seems like I'm 'in' to Confluence ok, however.
> >>
> >> I can't easily find you. Please reregister with confluence with your
> >> correct id.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
> >>>> OpenOffice.org project.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >>>>
> >>>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
> >>>>
> >>>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
> >>>>
> >>>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you
> to
> >>>> use it for the wiki.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
> >> Permission
> >>>> to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers,
> >>>> Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (
> >>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you
> >> have
> >>>> signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to
> this
> >>>> email with your ID.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Donald,
Sorry for the delay, a business meeting.
I corrected your email in confluence. You are now part of the ooo-committers group and have edit access to OOODEV.
Regards,
Dave
On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:
> Will you please delete my registration. When I attempt to re-register, I get
> "A user with this username already exists."
> *
> *
> Apologies for the bother I've created here.
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:
>>
>>> Dave, I registered, but fear I included a typo in my Apache email
>> address.
>>> It should be dpharbison@apache.org
>>
>> Without a correct email you will have trouble with confluence in the
>> future.
>>
>> If you forget your password the reset won't have anywhere to go.
>>
>> If you setup notifications it will be a problem as well.
>>
>>>
>>> It seems like I'm 'in' to Confluence ok, however.
>>
>> I can't easily find you. Please reregister with confluence with your
>> correct id.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
>>>> OpenOffice.org project.
>>>>
>>>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>>
>>>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>>>>
>>>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>>>
>>>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>>>
>>>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to
>>>> use it for the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
>> Permission
>>>> to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers,
>>>> Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (
>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you
>> have
>>>> signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this
>>>> email with your ID.
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
Will you please delete my registration. When I attempt to re-register, I get
"A user with this username already exists."
*
*
Apologies for the bother I've created here.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:
>
> > Dave, I registered, but fear I included a typo in my Apache email
> address.
> > It should be dpharbison@apache.org
>
> Without a correct email you will have trouble with confluence in the
> future.
>
> If you forget your password the reset won't have anywhere to go.
>
> If you setup notifications it will be a problem as well.
>
> >
> > It seems like I'm 'in' to Confluence ok, however.
>
> I can't easily find you. Please reregister with confluence with your
> correct id.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
> >> OpenOffice.org project.
> >>
> >> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >>
> >> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
> >>
> >> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
> >>
> >> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
> >>
> >> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to
> >> use it for the wiki.
> >>
> >> The Community wiki is for everyone.
> >>
> >> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
> Permission
> >> to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers,
> >> Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (
> >> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you
> have
> >> signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this
> >> email with your ID.
> >>
>
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Donald Harbison wrote:
> Dave, I registered, but fear I included a typo in my Apache email address.
> It should be dpharbison@apache.org
Without a correct email you will have trouble with confluence in the future.
If you forget your password the reset won't have anywhere to go.
If you setup notifications it will be a problem as well.
>
> It seems like I'm 'in' to Confluence ok, however.
I can't easily find you. Please reregister with confluence with your correct id.
Thanks,
Regards,
Dave
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
>> OpenOffice.org project.
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>>
>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>
>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>
>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to
>> use it for the wiki.
>>
>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>>
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission
>> to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers,
>> Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (
>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have
>> signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this
>> email with your ID.
>>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Donald Harbison <dp...@gmail.com>.
Dave, I registered, but fear I included a typo in my Apache email address.
It should be dpharbison@apache.org
It seems like I'm 'in' to Confluence ok, however.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
> OpenOffice.org project.
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>
> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>
> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>
> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to
> use it for the wiki.
>
> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission
> to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers,
> Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have
> signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this
> email with your ID.
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Frank Peters <fp...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Jean,
>> So where does user documentation content go? The community wiki says
>> that it would not be for "core developer documentation".
>> What does this term mean? I assume that all documentation content
>> on the current OOo wiki including the Developer's Guide
>> is to be placed on the community wiki?
>
>
> I'm looking for some clarification on this, too.
>
> I certainly hope that all the user guides and other user docs are to go
> into (or be made available through) the community wiki. If I understand
> some other discussions correctly, people won't need to sign the iCLA to
> contribute to the community wiki.
>
> I've had only a very brief look at the community wiki, and am still
> attempting to digest the many emails on this list and read up on the
> Apache way of doing things, so I could well be totally confused on a lot
> of topics.
same with me.
My understanding is, though, that everything that may
be part of a future release must be committed via an ICLA.
One problem we are now facing with the wiki is the unclear legal
status of its content. Some content may need relicensing to fit
Apache license schemes while others already have a compatible
license individually attached (like CC-BY for the ODFAuthors
pages).
So we are back to the same old problem with the OO Wiki: either
we are legally safe by asking for a CLA from every contributor
then we hold the bar up too high for some to contribute or
we do not ask for a CLA, keep the bar low but may not be able
to use that content anywhere else. Besides, this may lead to
splintering of the doc set which I would not favor.
Also, I would like to alert anyone of a fact that the current
structure of the content on the OO wiki is very much designed
around the capabilities of MediaWiki. So a migration of content
to Confluence would require considerable rework. I would
still like to examine the possibility of continuing to work
with a MW instance under Apache.
I will be posting a separate message to summarize my thoughts on
how to proceed with the different documentation pieces going
forward.
Frank
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Jean Hollis Weber <je...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, 2011-06-22, Frank Peters wrote:
> Am 20.06.2011 23:30, schrieb Dave Fisher:
> > Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
> > OpenOffice.org project.
> >
> > The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
> >
> > The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
> >
> > Anonymous viewing is allowed.
> >
> > In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
> >
> > If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you
> > to use it for the wiki.
> >
> > The Community wiki is for everyone.
> >
> > The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
>
> So where does user documentation content go? The community wiki says
> that it would not be for "core developer documentation".
> What does this term mean? I assume that all documentation content
> on the current OOo wiki including the Developer's Guide
> is to be placed on the community wiki?
I'm looking for some clarification on this, too.
I certainly hope that all the user guides and other user docs are to go
into (or be made available through) the community wiki. If I understand
some other discussions correctly, people won't need to sign the iCLA to
contribute to the community wiki.
I've had only a very brief look at the community wiki, and am still
attempting to digest the many emails on this list and read up on the
Apache way of doing things, so I could well be totally confused on a lot
of topics.
--Jean
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Frank Peters <fp...@googlemail.com>.
Am 20.06.2011 23:30, schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache
> OpenOffice.org project.
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>
> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>
> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>
> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you
> to use it for the wiki.
>
> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation.
So where does user documentation content go? The community wiki says
that it would not be for "core developer documentation".
What does this term mean? I assume that all documentation content
on the current OOo wiki including the Developer's Guide
is to be placed on the community wiki?
Frank
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 06/21/2011 02:20 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
>>> Am 21.06.11 02:05, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, I registered as orcmid, using orcmid@apache.org as my e-mail address.
>>>> You have been added to the ooo-committers group in confluence. You should now have permission to create on OOODEV.
>>> please add me too. rbircher@apache.org Thanks!
>>
>> Done. I'm starting to batch now.
>
> Is this job finished? If so, I've still no access. OOOUSER is OK but not OOODEV. My username is "mla" (as "marcus" was already taken) and mail address is marcus@apache.org.
Done.
Granting access to OOODEV is a manual process and requires the signup to the wiki first. I can then check your status and add to the group.
It is unfortunate that the groups are not made to match those for SVN. Maybe that is on Infra's road map, and maybe not.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/21/2011 02:20 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
>> Am 21.06.11 02:05, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, I registered as orcmid, using orcmid@apache.org as my e-mail address.
>>> You have been added to the ooo-committers group in confluence. You should now have permission to create on OOODEV.
>> please add me too. rbircher@apache.org Thanks!
>
> Done. I'm starting to batch now.
Is this job finished? If so, I've still no access. OOOUSER is OK but not
OOODEV. My username is "mla" (as "marcus" was already taken) and mail
address is marcus@apache.org.
Thanks
Marcus
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
> Am 21.06.11 02:05, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I registered as orcmid, using orcmid@apache.org as my e-mail address.
>> You have been added to the ooo-committers group in confluence. You should now have permission to create on OOODEV.
> please add me too. rbircher@apache.org Thanks!
Done. I'm starting to batch now.
>>> I learned by stumbling through it that registration applies to the entire Community Wiki and the links provided just land us at the particular sections of it, so it is fortunate I followed your instructions from the OOOUSERS page and it worked for what's needed at OOODEV.
>> :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:30
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
>>>
>>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>>>
>>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>>
>>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>>>
>>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>>
>>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>>
>>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
>>>
>>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>>>
>>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Am 21.06.11 02:05, schrieb Dave Fisher:
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>
>> OK, I registered as orcmid, using orcmid@apache.org as my e-mail address.
> You have been added to the ooo-committers group in confluence. You should now have permission to create on OOODEV.
please add me too. rbircher@apache.org Thanks!
>> I learned by stumbling through it that registration applies to the entire Community Wiki and the links provided just land us at the particular sections of it, so it is fortunate I followed your instructions from the OOOUSERS page and it worked for what's needed at OOODEV.
> :-)
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:30
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
>>
>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>>
>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>
>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>
>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
>>
>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>>
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>>
>
--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> OK, I registered as orcmid, using orcmid@apache.org as my e-mail address.
You have been added to the ooo-committers group in confluence. You should now have permission to create on OOODEV.
> I learned by stumbling through it that registration applies to the entire Community Wiki and the links provided just land us at the particular sections of it, so it is fortunate I followed your instructions from the OOOUSERS page and it worked for what's needed at OOODEV.
:-)
Regards,
Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:30
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
>
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>
> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>
> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>
> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
>
> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>
RE: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
OK, I registered as orcmid, using orcmid@apache.org as my e-mail address.
I learned by stumbling through it that registration applies to the entire Community Wiki and the links provided just land us at the particular sections of it, so it is fortunate I followed your instructions from the OOOUSERS page and it worked for what's needed at OOODEV.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:30
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
Anonymous viewing is allowed.
In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
The Community wiki is for everyone.
The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 21, 2011, at 5:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>>
>> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>>
>
> Excellent. Thanks, Dave!
You're welcome, Rob! My pleasure.
>> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>>
>> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>>
>> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
>>
>> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>>
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>>
>
> I'd like to consider whether the Community Wiki might work better for
> project planning. I certainly see the requirement that documentation
> be created by those who have signed the iCLA, especially documentation
> which is included in a release. That is called out on the CWIKI FAQs
> [1]
>
> "the touch point is whether you want to reserve the right to bundle
> the documentation with a release and/or check a copy into an ASF
> repository"
>
> Although documentation certainly falls into that category, I don't see
> why project planning does. In fact, as we trying to coordinate the
> migration of the OpenOffice.org website, I think we'll need to
> coordinate with various groups, not all of whom are committers, and
> some of which are still evaluating whether they will join the project
> or continue their work elsewhere. So I think that for the near term
> at least, such project planning is best done in a space where anyone
> can participate. Since these plans do not get checked into SVN, or
> become part of the release, I don't see how this could be a problem,
This was my sense and how I took Eric's comment. I did move over a page. [2]
Raphael created [3] which is similar both with this link [4].
I certainly think that the home page language on both wikis can be improved. Please feel free. It looks like my day job is calling for my attention today.
Regards,
Dave
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Transition+Planning
[3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/Migration+from+Kenai+to+Apache
[4] http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Home
>
> -Rob
>
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/#Index-Butwhatifwewouldlikethecommunityatlargetohelpmaintainthespace%253F
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Community Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
>
> The Apache OpenOffice.org Developers Wiki is at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/
>
Excellent. Thanks, Dave!
> Anonymous viewing is allowed.
>
> In order to create content sign up for a confluence wiki account at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>
> If you have an apache.org email address it is easiest for us for you to use it for the wiki.
>
> The Community wiki is for everyone.
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>
I'd like to consider whether the Community Wiki might work better for
project planning. I certainly see the requirement that documentation
be created by those who have signed the iCLA, especially documentation
which is included in a release. That is called out on the CWIKI FAQs
[1]
"the touch point is whether you want to reserve the right to bundle
the documentation with a release and/or check a copy into an ASF
repository"
Although documentation certainly falls into that category, I don't see
why project planning does. In fact, as we trying to coordinate the
migration of the OpenOffice.org website, I think we'll need to
coordinate with various groups, not all of whom are committers, and
some of which are still evaluating whether they will join the project
or continue their work elsewhere. So I think that for the near term
at least, such project planning is best done in a space where anyone
can participate. Since these plans do not get checked into SVN, or
become part of the release, I don't see how this could be a problem,
-Rob
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/#Index-Butwhatifwewouldlikethecommunityatlargetohelpmaintainthespace%253F
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Jean Weber wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 00:18, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 14:30 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>>>
>>>
>>> Requesting permission to create content on the Developers wiki.
>>>
>>> jeanweber@apache.org
>>
>> Granted. Would you also like the ability to modify the look and feel of the site and pdf exports? It is done via css and templates.
>>
>
> Yes, please. And thank you.
> --Jean
Done, and you're welcome! I'm new to OOo, but not to document generation - I've 30 years doing that - this is ALL very fascinating!
I also setup Alexandro as an ooo-admins group member.
Regards,
Dave
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Jean Weber <je...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 00:18, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 26, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 14:30 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>>
>>
>> Requesting permission to create content on the Developers wiki.
>>
>> jeanweber@apache.org
>
> Granted. Would you also like the ability to modify the look and feel of the site and pdf exports? It is done via css and templates.
>
Yes, please. And thank you.
--Jean
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 26, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 14:30 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
>
>
> Requesting permission to create content on the Developers wiki.
>
> jeanweber@apache.org
Granted. Would you also like the ability to modify the look and feel of the site and pdf exports? It is done via css and templates.
Regards,
Dave
>
> --Jean
> Jean Hollis Weber
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available
Posted by Jean Hollis Weber <je...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 14:30 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project.
>
> [...]
>
> The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo committers, Foundation Members, and those who have signed an ICLA (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt). To be authorized, once you have signed up for the wiki, please request access rights by replying to this email with your ID.
Requesting permission to create content on the Developers wiki.
jeanweber@apache.org
--Jean
Jean Hollis Weber