Re: Shale Dialog Manager Vs Trinidad Dialog Framework

[Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>]

On 9/30/07, sunilskulkarni <su...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rahul, I played with Trinidad all day yesterday with no luck. Shale is
> easier to set up and blends well with Faces, Tiles...etc. I have decided to
> use Shale for my Dialog framework needs but finding it difficult to find a
> basic example on how to use Dialog framework, where as Trinidad has good
> examples but hard to integrate. Rahul, appreciate if you can send me a
> sample example on how to use Shale Dialog framewrok. As suggested I couldn't
> build http://shale.apache.org/building.html due to lack of time. As
> application developer, I was hoping to use a document on how to use
> infrastructure and move on quickly with my core application. Thanks for your
> assistance.
>
<snip/>

As we discussed, these [1],[2],[3] documents are the starting point.
If these are not enough, or if they lack enough details to be useful,
then they need to be fixed. We will need your help in identifying what
needs to be explained better.

Also, if you are unable to build, you can pick up the pre-built
shale-usecases app [4] (as a zip) and dig into the log on / edit
profile dialog examples. Once you unpack the zip, the dialog
descriptor is here:
  <shale-usecases>/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/dialog-config.xml
The beans are here:
  <shale-usecases>/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/usecases/profile
The views are here:
  <shale-usecases>/src/main/webapp/profile

Looking at the examples in conjunction with the documents on the
website should help. If you have specific questions, please ask.

-Rahul

[1] http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog/
[2] http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog-basic/
[3] http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog-scxml/
[4] http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/  (choose a mirror and
get shale-usecases-current.zip)



>
> Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> >
> > On 9/29/07, sunilskulkarni <sunilskulkarni> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, I am using MyFaces 1.1.4/tomcat 5.5.x. I want to use conversation
> >> pages.
> >> Shale and Triniad offers the feature. I am new to both. Requesting
> >> assistance.
> >> (1)Is there a document or a step by step instr on how to use Shale Dialog
> >> Manager(http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog/index.html, talks about
> >> components)
> > <snip/>
> >
> > That page introduces Shale dialogs, and the associated APIs (not sure
> > what you mean by talking about components). Step by step instructions
> > are partly a function of the dialog implementation in use, the links
> > in the "API and Implementations" section for both available
> > implementations contains such recipes.
> >
> > Working examples of the basic implementation are available in the
> > shale-usecases sample application, you can download the latest release
> > (v1.0.4) from here:
> >
> >   http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/
> >
> > More examples are in the shale-test-dialog-* applications that can be
> > built from source:
> >
> >   http://shale.apache.org/building.html
> >
> > If you have specific questions or feedback, please let us know.
> >
> >
> >> (2) I have set up Trinidad on Eclipse/tomcat, trying it out. Any doc
> >> which
> >> points to a sample instr it will help.
> >> (3) Is Shale or Trinidad better? w.r.t feature set, usability, more
> >> components...etc
> >>
> > <snap/>
> >
> > Sorry, I haven't looked at Trinidad. Please try the MyFaces user list.
> >
> > -Rahul
> >
> >
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >

Re: Shale Dialog Manager Vs Trinidad Dialog Framework

[sunilskulkarni <su...@yahoo.com>]

Thanks Rahul. Looked into examples you suggested and figured it out, it is
simple. Thanks


Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> 
> On 9/30/07, sunilskulkarni <su...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Rahul, I played with Trinidad all day yesterday with no luck.
>> Shale is
>> easier to set up and blends well with Faces, Tiles...etc. I have decided
>> to
>> use Shale for my Dialog framework needs but finding it difficult to find
>> a
>> basic example on how to use Dialog framework, where as Trinidad has good
>> examples but hard to integrate. Rahul, appreciate if you can send me a
>> sample example on how to use Shale Dialog framewrok. As suggested I
>> couldn't
>> build http://shale.apache.org/building.html due to lack of time. As
>> application developer, I was hoping to use a document on how to use
>> infrastructure and move on quickly with my core application. Thanks for
>> your
>> assistance.
>>
> <snip/>
> 
> As we discussed, these [1],[2],[3] documents are the starting point.
> If these are not enough, or if they lack enough details to be useful,
> then they need to be fixed. We will need your help in identifying what
> needs to be explained better.
> 
> Also, if you are unable to build, you can pick up the pre-built
> shale-usecases app [4] (as a zip) and dig into the log on / edit
> profile dialog examples. Once you unpack the zip, the dialog
> descriptor is here:
>   <shale-usecases>/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/dialog-config.xml
> The beans are here:
>   <shale-usecases>/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/usecases/profile
> The views are here:
>   <shale-usecases>/src/main/webapp/profile
> 
> Looking at the examples in conjunction with the documents on the
> website should help. If you have specific questions, please ask.
> 
> -Rahul
> 
> [1] http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog/
> [2] http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog-basic/
> [3] http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog-scxml/
> [4] http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/  (choose a mirror and
> get shale-usecases-current.zip)
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Rahul Akolkar wrote:
>> >
>> > On 9/29/07, sunilskulkarni <sunilskulkarni> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I am using MyFaces 1.1.4/tomcat 5.5.x. I want to use conversation
>> >> pages.
>> >> Shale and Triniad offers the feature. I am new to both. Requesting
>> >> assistance.
>> >> (1)Is there a document or a step by step instr on how to use Shale
>> Dialog
>> >> Manager(http://shale.apache.org/shale-dialog/index.html, talks about
>> >> components)
>> > <snip/>
>> >
>> > That page introduces Shale dialogs, and the associated APIs (not sure
>> > what you mean by talking about components). Step by step instructions
>> > are partly a function of the dialog implementation in use, the links
>> > in the "API and Implementations" section for both available
>> > implementations contains such recipes.
>> >
>> > Working examples of the basic implementation are available in the
>> > shale-usecases sample application, you can download the latest release
>> > (v1.0.4) from here:
>> >
>> >   http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/
>> >
>> > More examples are in the shale-test-dialog-* applications that can be
>> > built from source:
>> >
>> >   http://shale.apache.org/building.html
>> >
>> > If you have specific questions or feedback, please let us know.
>> >
>> >
>> >> (2) I have set up Trinidad on Eclipse/tomcat, trying it out. Any doc
>> >> which
>> >> points to a sample instr it will help.
>> >> (3) Is Shale or Trinidad better? w.r.t feature set, usability, more
>> >> components...etc
>> >>
>> > <snap/>
>> >
>> > Sorry, I haven't looked at Trinidad. Please try the MyFaces user list.
>> >
>> > -Rahul
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks
>> >> --
>> >
> 
> 

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