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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> on 2008/06/20 16:37:38 UTC
[VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Hello,
This is the first release under the patronage of the ASF Incubator.
The community has voted on and approved a proposal to release 0.8.0-incubating.
Unfortunately, we did not have any votes or feedback from our mentors.
Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy we would now like to
request the approval of the Incubator PMC to make the release.
Release proposal:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-couchdb-dev/200806.mbox/%3c20080616232144.GA23300@bytesexual.org%3e
Vote result:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-couchdb-dev/200806.mbox/%3c20080620131433.GA17003@bytesexual.org%3e
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>.
On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:22:03PM -0700, Ted Leung wrote:
>> I was on vacation all of last week, which is why I didn't vote. I
>> did
>> give you feedback about the initial tarball, which was missing a
>> NOTICEs
>> file.
>
> I apologise for this, I should have mentioned explicitly that the
> vote/feedback
> was missing from the second round VOTE, not the first round.
>
> It still concerns me that we have not heard anything from our other
> mentors.
AFAIK, Jim gave you some feedback, which leaves just myself in the
totally lazy butt camp. And you're right, I can only apologize for
that. It's just one of those crazy periods in someone's life when
there is time to barely breathe: I noticed the vote and earmarked
some time to do cross-checks, but things and plans changed.
Thanks for kicking my backside into doing the minimum required from a
mentor. I'll try and follow for another couple of weeks and see if I
can keep up, or just resign and leave it to someone else. Meanwhile,
here is my +1.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>> You should send the announcement to the announce@apache.org mailing
>> list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
>> like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.
if anyone blogs then think about signing up to http://www.planetapache.org
> I am a littler surprised by this.
>
> Are you sure the announcement shouldn't me be made to:
>
> announce at incubator.apache.org
the incubator doesn't have announcement list but announce@apache.org
is better anyway since it has a much bigger subscriber list
- robert
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> You should send the announcement to the announce@apache.org mailing
> list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
> like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.
I am a littler surprised by this.
Are you sure the announcement shouldn't me be made to:
announce at incubator.apache.org
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
My vote is binding. As for release announcements, you do not (afaik)
need to get them approved by the PRC. They should however, clearly
call the project Apache CouchDB, and also include the standard
incubation disclaimer.
Paul
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>> You should send the announcement to the announce@apache.org mailing
>> list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
>> like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.
>
> Okay, great. Thanks.
>
> Paul, is your vote binding? Without it we only have two +1 votes.
>
> If Paul's vote is not binding do we have to wait for Jim?
>
> Secondly, we were concerned with the following:
>
>
> A podling MUST now be called Apache "Podling-Name" (see Naming below). A podling
> and affiliated persons can issue press releases that reference the podling,
> but cannot issue press releases with the specific intent of announcing the
> Podling. Podling can conduct informal pr activities, such as media outreach,
> blog publicity, etc. The ASF will not issue any press releases for any podling
> at this stage. However, the Public Relations Committee MUST review any
> releases by affiliated organizations or groups to ensure they comply with
> these branding guidelines.
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>
> Does this apply to the release announcements?
>
> Do I have to run them past someone?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:07:13AM -0700, Craig L Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Paul's vote is binding.
>>
>> Great, thanks.
see http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html
>>> This section was put in place to avoid companies making PR out of simply
>>> contributing code to Apache and then abandoning the project, having
>>> gotten "free" PR.
>>
>> Understandable.
>>
>>> Yes, the PRC at apache dot org needs to approve all announcements. You
>>> can contact them (us) any time for assistance (but you will probably
>>> have to write the press release yourselves).
>>
>> Okay sure, I am still confused about what to do next.
>>
>> 1) Call RESULTS of this VOTE.
>> 2) Move the release artifacts to a.o/dist and update couchdb/downloads
>> 3) Prepare a release announcement and clear it with the PRC
>> 4) Send release announcement to ???
remember to wait until the mirrors have sync'd
- robert
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[VOTE RESULTS] (was Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating
release)
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Hello,
The final tally of the vote is:
+1 votes: 3
Ted Leung (binding)
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200806.mbox/%3c42460D20-5158-4774-A6D9-2F9254096DBE@sauria.com%3e
Paul Fremantle (binding)
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200806.mbox/%3c88f5d710806240858te410eb1h7805c00a6c4c39a1@mail.gmail.com%3e
Gianugo Rabellino (binding)
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200806.mbox/%3c45BBB336-DE17-45B5-8AAD-857D9FB447FC@apache.org%3e
0 votes: 0
-1 votes: 0
This exceeds the required minimum three +1 votes and the proposal passes.
I shall now make the release and prepare a release announcement.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:07:13AM -0700, Craig L Russell wrote:
>> Yes, Paul's vote is binding.
>
> Great, thanks.
>
>> This section was put in place to avoid companies making PR out of
>> simply
>> contributing code to Apache and then abandoning the project, having
>> gotten "free" PR.
>
> Understandable.
>
>> Yes, the PRC at apache dot org needs to approve all announcements.
>> You
>> can contact them (us) any time for assistance (but you will probably
>> have to write the press release yourselves).
>
> Okay sure, I am still confused about what to do next.
>
> 1) Call RESULTS of this VOTE.
> 2) Move the release artifacts to a.o/dist and update couchdb/
> downloads
> 3) Prepare a release announcement and clear it with the PRC
> 4) Send release announcement to ???
>
> Which of the following do I send the announcement to:
>
> announce at a.o
> announce at i.a.o
> couchdb-user at i.a.o
All of the above. The only list that needs prior approval is announce
at a.o, since that's a widely distributed list. And I'm not completely
sure that the PRC will think it's announce-worthy. That's why I'd
contact PRC sooner than later.
Craig
>
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:07:13AM -0700, Craig L Russell wrote:
> Yes, Paul's vote is binding.
Great, thanks.
> This section was put in place to avoid companies making PR out of simply
> contributing code to Apache and then abandoning the project, having
> gotten "free" PR.
Understandable.
> Yes, the PRC at apache dot org needs to approve all announcements. You
> can contact them (us) any time for assistance (but you will probably
> have to write the press release yourselves).
Okay sure, I am still confused about what to do next.
1) Call RESULTS of this VOTE.
2) Move the release artifacts to a.o/dist and update couchdb/downloads
3) Prepare a release announcement and clear it with the PRC
4) Send release announcement to ???
Which of the following do I send the announcement to:
announce at a.o
announce at i.a.o
couchdb-user at i.a.o
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Jukka,
On Jun 24, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com
> > wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>> Do I have to run them past someone?
>>
>> Yes, the PRC at apache dot org needs to approve all announcements.
>
> Press releases yes, release announcements no. If PRC has the cycles I
> guess they wouldn't mind reviewing also important release
> announcements, but so far I have only seen the PRC asserting oversight
> over formal press releases.
Fair enough. I'm still new here. ;-)
Craig
>
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
>> Do I have to run them past someone?
>
> Yes, the PRC at apache dot org needs to approve all announcements.
Press releases yes, release announcements no. If PRC has the cycles I
guess they wouldn't mind reviewing also important release
announcements, but so far I have only seen the PRC asserting oversight
over formal press releases.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Noah,
On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>> You should send the announcement to the announce@apache.org mailing
>> list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
>> like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.
>
> Okay, great. Thanks.
>
> Paul, is your vote binding? Without it we only have two +1 votes.
Yes, Paul's vote is binding.
>
>
> If Paul's vote is not binding do we have to wait for Jim?
>
> Secondly, we were concerned with the following:
>
>
> A podling MUST now be called Apache "Podling-Name" (see Naming
> below). A podling
> and affiliated persons can issue press releases that reference the
> podling,
> but cannot issue press releases with the specific intent of
> announcing the
> Podling. Podling can conduct informal pr activities, such as media
> outreach,
> blog publicity, etc. The ASF will not issue any press releases for
> any podling
> at this stage. However, the Public Relations Committee MUST review
> any
> releases by affiliated organizations or groups to ensure they
> comply with
> these branding guidelines.
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>
> Does this apply to the release announcements?
No, release announcements are not "announcing the podling".
This section was put in place to avoid companies making PR out of
simply contributing code to Apache and then abandoning the project,
having gotten "free" PR.
But once a podling has jumped through the release hoops, it's
considered proper to announce the milestone.
>
>
> Do I have to run them past someone?
Yes, the PRC at apache dot org needs to approve all announcements. You
can contact them (us) any time for assistance (but you will probably
have to write the press release yourselves).
Hope that helps,
Craig
>
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 05:34:23PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> You should send the announcement to the announce@apache.org mailing
> list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
> like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.
Okay, great. Thanks.
Paul, is your vote binding? Without it we only have two +1 votes.
If Paul's vote is not binding do we have to wait for Jim?
Secondly, we were concerned with the following:
A podling MUST now be called Apache "Podling-Name" (see Naming below). A podling
and affiliated persons can issue press releases that reference the podling,
but cannot issue press releases with the specific intent of announcing the
Podling. Podling can conduct informal pr activities, such as media outreach,
blog publicity, etc. The ASF will not issue any press releases for any podling
at this stage. However, the Public Relations Committee MUST review any
releases by affiliated organizations or groups to ensure they comply with
these branding guidelines.
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
Does this apply to the release announcements?
Do I have to run them past someone?
Thanks,
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
You should send the announcement to the announce@apache.org mailing
list, and otherwise its a good idea to list it on some general sites
like slashdot, infoq, tss, ohloh, etc. But that is all up to you.
Paul
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 04:58:53PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>> +1 from me, and yes now that you have three +1's plus three days you
>> can call the results.
>
> Fantastic.
>
> I have been looking at:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#announcements
>
> Once I call the results and move the artifacts to www.apache.org/dist what
> list(s) should I post the release announcement to and are there any specific
> requirements (or good examples) for what should be included?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 04:58:53PM +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote:
> +1 from me, and yes now that you have three +1's plus three days you
> can call the results.
Fantastic.
I have been looking at:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#announcements
Once I call the results and move the artifacts to www.apache.org/dist what
list(s) should I post the release announcement to and are there any specific
requirements (or good examples) for what should be included?
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me, and yes now that you have three +1's plus three days you
can call the results.
Paul
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 07:35:44AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>> I don't think you need votes from *all* your mentors to pass the
>> release vote, but having no mentor votes (which has now been fixed by
>> Ted's vote) was worrying.
>
> This confuses me a little, I thought that to pass the Incubator VOTE we needed
> three +1 votes, and that committers votes are non-binding.
>
> We have three +1 votes now and three days has passed, can I call the results?
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 07:35:44AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>> I don't think you need votes from *all* your mentors to pass the
>> release vote, but having no mentor votes (which has now been fixed by
>> Ted's vote) was worrying.
>
> This confuses me a little, I thought that to pass the Incubator VOTE we needed
> three +1 votes, and that committers votes are non-binding....
Only votes from Incubator PMC members are binding, so you need three
of these, but it is not required that those three are mentors.
We like to see mentors actively involved in releases (at least I do)
because that shows that they're following their podlings, and allows
the Incubator to scale by delegating to mentors as much as possible.
But it's not a requirement to have +1s from all your mentors - people
are sometimes understandably busy with other things (such as Life
Outside The ASF ;-)
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 07:35:44AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> I don't think you need votes from *all* your mentors to pass the
> release vote, but having no mentor votes (which has now been fixed by
> Ted's vote) was worrying.
This confuses me a little, I thought that to pass the Incubator VOTE we needed
three +1 votes, and that committers votes are non-binding.
We have three +1 votes now and three days has passed, can I call the results?
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:31:59PM -0700, Ted Leung wrote:
>> +1, since it leaves me as a single point of failure.
>
> Not only that, but this vote cannot pass without the other two mentors....
I don't think you need votes from *all* your mentors to pass the
release vote, but having no mentor votes (which has now been fixed by
Ted's vote) was worrying.
I haven't looked at the release yet so cannot vote at this point, but
if others have time to review it I think you'll be good to go.
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:31:59PM -0700, Ted Leung wrote:
> +1, since it leaves me as a single point of failure.
Not only that, but this vote cannot pass without the other two mentors.
>> Are you happy with me updating the MD5/SHA files as outlined
>> previously?
>
> Yes.
Great, I have updated these and updated the release procedure:
http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/ReleaseProcedure
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
On Jun 23, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:22:03PM -0700, Ted Leung wrote:
>> I was on vacation all of last week, which is why I didn't vote. I
>> did
>> give you feedback about the initial tarball, which was missing a
>> NOTICEs
>> file.
>
> I apologise for this, I should have mentioned explicitly that the
> vote/feedback
> was missing from the second round VOTE, not the first round.
>
> It still concerns me that we have not heard anything from our other
> mentors.
+1, since it leaves me as a single point of failure.
>
>
>> Since that has been fixed, I am happy to vote:
>>
>> +1
>
> Fantastic!
>
> Are you happy with me updating the MD5/SHA files as outlined
> previously?
Yes.
Ted
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:22:03PM -0700, Ted Leung wrote:
> I was on vacation all of last week, which is why I didn't vote. I did
> give you feedback about the initial tarball, which was missing a NOTICEs
> file.
I apologise for this, I should have mentioned explicitly that the vote/feedback
was missing from the second round VOTE, not the first round.
It still concerns me that we have not heard anything from our other mentors.
> Since that has been fixed, I am happy to vote:
>
> +1
Fantastic!
Are you happy with me updating the MD5/SHA files as outlined previously?
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:37 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is the first release under the patronage of the ASF Incubator.
>
> The community has voted on and approved a proposal to release 0.8.0-
> incubating.
>
> Unfortunately, we did not have any votes or feedback from our mentors.
I was on vacation all of last week, which is why I didn't vote. I did
give you feedback about the initial tarball, which was missing a
NOTICEs file.
Since that has been fixed, I am happy to vote:
+1
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:50:13PM +0100, sebb wrote:
> Lack of zip is signifcant, IMO.
>
> Hashes - not critical.
Can I alter the build to produce a zip, re-tag 0.8.0, and re-call the vote
directly on the general Incubator list?
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 07:22:33AM -0700, Craig L Russell wrote:
> And in my opinion, the vote is for the primary release artifacts and I'm
> perfectly fine with actually changing the checksums and/or signatures
> while the vote is open. If there are any +1 votes on the previous
> (correct but improperly formatted) artifacts I'd still count them.
I think this makes sense. Are there any objections to me doing this now?
> What concerns me is the mentors who have not voted (maybe old news?)
Yes, this concerns me too. The only binding votes are from committers.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> ...What concerns me is the mentors who have not voted...
Same here.
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
With regard to the format, the CouchDB team should decide whether to
release in zip, tar, gz, or whatever format. Every community's user
base is different and my only requirement is that the release includes
sources in at least one format. Everything else is optional.
And in my opinion, the vote is for the primary release artifacts and
I'm perfectly fine with actually changing the checksums and/or
signatures while the vote is open. If there are any +1 votes on the
previous (correct but improperly formatted) artifacts I'd still count
them.
I've only looked at the .asc and .md5 checksums and they're ok (I
don't use an automated md5 verifier).
What concerns me is the mentors who have not voted (maybe old news?)
Craig
On Jun 22, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 04:26:50PM +0100, sebb wrote:
>> OK, in that case I agree, the Zip is not essential.
>
> Great stuff.
>
> As no one has voted yet, would there be any problem with me updating
> the format
> of the MD5 and SHA files now, while the vote is still open?
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 04:26:50PM +0100, sebb wrote:
> OK, in that case I agree, the Zip is not essential.
Great stuff.
As no one has voted yet, would there be any problem with me updating the format
of the MD5 and SHA files now, while the vote is still open?
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 21/06/2008, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 05:53:21PM +0300, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> > Personally, I think it's entirely up to the project to decide in which
> > formats they want to make their releases available. Do you really need
> > a zip, or are you asking for it just because of convention? Or more
> > generally (and mostly to couchdb-dev@), are there potential CouchDB
> > users who would be better served by a release in zip format?
>
>
> From http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
>
> Though utilities for all major compression formats are available for all major
> platforms, not all platforms support all major compression formats by
> default. Users find it convenient to download the distribution compressed in a
> familiar format that is easy to decompress on their platform. It is therefore
> recommended that each type of distribution is shipped in a variety of compressed
> formats. Ship at least one of tar.gz, bz or bz2 for UNIX and linux (but note
> this). Ship zip for windows.
>
> CouchDB does not currently support Windows, so providing a zip seems redundant.
>
OK, in that case I agree, the Zip is not essential.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 05:53:21PM +0300, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Personally, I think it's entirely up to the project to decide in which
> formats they want to make their releases available. Do you really need
> a zip, or are you asking for it just because of convention? Or more
> generally (and mostly to couchdb-dev@), are there potential CouchDB
> users who would be better served by a release in zip format?
>From http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
Though utilities for all major compression formats are available for all major
platforms, not all platforms support all major compression formats by
default. Users find it convenient to download the distribution compressed in a
familiar format that is easy to decompress on their platform. It is therefore
recommended that each type of distribution is shipped in a variety of compressed
formats. Ship at least one of tar.gz, bz or bz2 for UNIX and linux (but note
this). Ship zip for windows.
CouchDB does not currently support Windows, so providing a zip seems redundant.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:50 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lack of zip is signifcant, IMO.
Personally, I think it's entirely up to the project to decide in which
formats they want to make their releases available. Do you really need
a zip, or are you asking for it just because of convention? Or more
generally (and mostly to couchdb-dev@), are there potential CouchDB
users who would be better served by a release in zip format?
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 20/06/2008, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:05:47PM +0100, sebb wrote:
> > Assuming you are referring to the artefacts at:
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~nslater/dist/
>
>
> Yes, the artifacts are the same as in the original proposal.
>
>
> > 1) there is only a tar.gz archive - it is normal to provide zip
> > archives as well.
>
>
> I had missed this fact, providing a zip archive will be no problem.
>
>
> > 2) the md5 and sha hash files have an unusual format; most automatic
> > hash checkers expect the hashes without embedded spaces.
>
>
> I took the release signing from the following document:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html
>
> Which states:
>
> gpg --print-md MD5 [fileName] > [fileName].md5
> gpg --print-md SHA1 [fileName] > [fileName].sha
>
> I changed this slightly to:
>
> gpg --print-md MD5 < [fileName] > [fileName].md5
> gpg --print-md SHA1 < [fileName] > [fileName].sha
>
> Are either of these the correct method to use?
>
> Should md5sum and sha1sum be used instead? If this is the case I am guessing I
> should propose a correction of the release signing documentation.
>
> Are these issues significant enough to block the release?
Lack of zip is signifcant, IMO.
Hashes - not critical.
You could just use an editor to remove the spaces.
Or use
gpg --print-md SHA1 < [fileName] | sed -e's/ //g' > [fileName].sha
At least the data is all on one line, unlike some I have seen ...
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:05:47PM +0100, sebb wrote:
> Assuming you are referring to the artefacts at:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~nslater/dist/
Yes, the artifacts are the same as in the original proposal.
> 1) there is only a tar.gz archive - it is normal to provide zip
> archives as well.
I had missed this fact, providing a zip archive will be no problem.
> 2) the md5 and sha hash files have an unusual format; most automatic
> hash checkers expect the hashes without embedded spaces.
I took the release signing from the following document:
http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html
Which states:
gpg --print-md MD5 [fileName] > [fileName].md5
gpg --print-md SHA1 [fileName] > [fileName].sha
I changed this slightly to:
gpg --print-md MD5 < [fileName] > [fileName].md5
gpg --print-md SHA1 < [fileName] > [fileName].sha
Are either of these the correct method to use?
Should md5sum and sha1sum be used instead? If this is the case I am guessing I
should propose a correction of the release signing documentation.
Are these issues significant enough to block the release?
Thanks,
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Re: [VOTE] Apache CouchDB 0.8.0-incubating release
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 20/06/2008, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is the first release under the patronage of the ASF Incubator.
>
> The community has voted on and approved a proposal to release 0.8.0-incubating.
>
> Unfortunately, we did not have any votes or feedback from our mentors.
>
> Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy we would now like to
> request the approval of the Incubator PMC to make the release.
>
> Release proposal:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-couchdb-dev/200806.mbox/%3c20080616232144.GA23300@bytesexual.org%3e
>
Assuming you are referring to the artefacts at:
http://people.apache.org/~nslater/dist/
1) there is only a tar.gz archive - it is normal to provide zip
archives as well.
2) the md5 and sha hash files have an unusual format; most automatic
hash checkers expect the hashes without embedded spaces.
> Vote result:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-couchdb-dev/200806.mbox/%3c20080620131433.GA17003@bytesexual.org%3e
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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