Re: #pagespeed on IRC

[Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com>]

I have the same problem, but no solution.
One other problem I have is that it is easy to miss messages with IRC even
when I'm not
behind my desktop running the client.

So I'm wondering if switching to Slack would help. If that is already being
used by others
and IRC is not, switching to Slack would avoid adding more channel types to
monitor.

Added +dev@ (for the records)

Otto

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 3:06 PM Joshua Marantz <jm...@google.com> wrote:

> In principle this is a great idea.  But the traffic has been relatively
> low and I have a bunch of different IRC channels to track, each one on a
> different platform (slack, 2 different Google ones, freenode).  I really
> need some kind of federation mechanism for all these IRCs.  Anyone have a
> good solution for that?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:47 AM Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Leif pointed out that there have been some people asking questions over
>> at #pagespeed on Freenode, but unfortunately no-one was there to help out.
>> So I wanted to gauge support for the channel, and if we're willing to
>> support people on IRC?
>>
>> The last couple of weeks I haven't hung out much in the channel, but I
>> just joined again and intend to do better again going forward.. but I can't
>> hang out in the channel 24x7 on my own :-)
>>
>> Any thoughts? Also, I'm curious of support for Slack would be higher
>> compared to support for IRC?
>> (If so, maybe we should consider switching)
>>
>> Otto
>>
>>

Re: #pagespeed on IRC

[Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>]

> On 25 Apr 2018, at 07:54, Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com> wrote:
> 
> So I'm wondering if switching to Slack would help. If that is already being
> used by others
> and IRC is not, switching to Slack would avoid adding more channel types to
> monitor.

-1 to switching away from IRC to a proprietary walled-garden alternative.
That is, despite IRC shortcomings (I’m pretty useless on IRC these days).

Fine with slack or similar so long as there's a gateway to IRC.
I think I read somewhere recently slack were locking IRC out?

— 
Nick Kew

Re: #pagespeed on IRC

[Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com>]

I feel that one problem we may have regardless of the type of channel we
use,
is that the current dev community is too small too consistently monitor the
channel.

Maybe advertising the IRC channel would help with that.
There are a couple of users actively helping out others, maybe
they would be interested in joining the channel too.

For advertising, I was thinking about:
- sending out notifications on the google groups, and pin those.
- prominently mentioning the channels on github and modpagespeed.com

We may want to combine that with deprecating the Google support group
and moving it over to users@

My efforts are currently directed at getting the contents of
modpagespeed.com
compliant with ASF incubation policy, so we can put up the redirection
placeholder
at pagespeed.incubator.apache.org, once I'm done with those I plan to
follow up with
the above if there are no objections.

Otto


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:14 PM Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:54 AM, Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have the same problem, but no solution.
> One other problem I have is that it is easy to miss messages with IRC even
> when I'm not
> behind my desktop running the client.
>
>
> znc helps nicely with that, and we (ATS) have an instance that I can
> create accounts on if anyone should need it.
>
>
> So I'm wondering if switching to Slack would help. If that is already
> being used by others
> and IRC is not, switching to Slack would avoid adding more channel types
> to monitor.
>
>
> The problem I have with slack is the explosion of accounts that it causes,
> I’m already at 10+ accounts... I’m really not a fan of it, but if it’s what
> you all want to use, that’s fine.
>
> If we don’t want to use IRC, we should close down the channel.
>
> Cheers,
>
> — Leif
>
>
> Added +dev@ (for the records)
>
> Otto
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 3:06 PM Joshua Marantz <jm...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In principle this is a great idea.  But the traffic has been relatively
>> low and I have a bunch of different IRC channels to track, each one on a
>> different platform (slack, 2 different Google ones, freenode).  I really
>> need some kind of federation mechanism for all these IRCs.  Anyone have a
>> good solution for that?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:47 AM Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Leif pointed out that there have been some people asking questions over
>>> at #pagespeed on Freenode, but unfortunately no-one was there to help out.
>>> So I wanted to gauge support for the channel, and if we're willing to
>>> support people on IRC?
>>>
>>> The last couple of weeks I haven't hung out much in the channel, but I
>>> just joined again and intend to do better again going forward.. but I can't
>>> hang out in the channel 24x7 on my own :-)
>>>
>>> Any thoughts? Also, I'm curious of support for Slack would be higher
>>> compared to support for IRC?
>>> (If so, maybe we should consider switching)
>>>
>>> Otto
>>>
>>>

Re: #pagespeed on IRC

[Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org>]

> On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:54 AM, Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same problem, but no solution. 
> One other problem I have is that it is easy to miss messages with IRC even when I'm not 
> behind my desktop running the client.

znc helps nicely with that, and we (ATS) have an instance that I can create accounts on if anyone should need it.

> 
> So I'm wondering if switching to Slack would help. If that is already being used by others
> and IRC is not, switching to Slack would avoid adding more channel types to monitor.

The problem I have with slack is the explosion of accounts that it causes, I’m already at 10+ accounts... I’m really not a fan of it, but if it’s what you all want to use, that’s fine.

If we don’t want to use IRC, we should close down the channel.

Cheers,

— Leif 
> 
> Added +dev@ (for the records)
> 
> Otto
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 3:06 PM Joshua Marantz <jm...@google.com> wrote:
>> In principle this is a great idea.  But the traffic has been relatively low and I have a bunch of different IRC channels to track, each one on a different platform (slack, 2 different Google ones, freenode).  I really need some kind of federation mechanism for all these IRCs.  Anyone have a good solution for that?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:47 AM Otto van der Schaaf <os...@we-amp.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Leif pointed out that there have been some people asking questions over at #pagespeed on Freenode, but unfortunately no-one was there to help out. So I wanted to gauge support for the channel, and if we're willing to support people on IRC?
>>> 
>>> The last couple of weeks I haven't hung out much in the channel, but I just joined again and intend to do better again going forward.. but I can't hang out in the channel 24x7 on my own :-)
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts? Also, I'm curious of support for Slack would be higher compared to support for IRC?
>>> (If so, maybe we should consider switching)
>>> 
>>> Otto
>>>