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rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Hi friends,
the funny build service:
http://software.opensuse.org/package/apache2-mod_rivet?search_term=apache2-mod_rivet
has news:
Rivet 2.2.3 for SuSE
Rivet 2.0.6 for Redhat 7 and friends
-> In my spec file, I fail to make the difference between CentOS 6 and 7
where apxs changed location: /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin
So I ran the spec file once with one entry and once with the other and
got all packages ;-)
Rivet 2.2.0 by a user called pgajdos.
Enjoy,
Harald
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Massimo Manghi <ma...@unipr.it>.
On 20-07-2015 13:25, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
> Hi Massimo,
>
> thank you. I will attack the rpm's after my holiday in August, ok ?
>
> Enjoy the time,
> Harald
>
Harald, whenever you have time for that, I don't see a crowd out there
demanding 2.2.3 to enter their distribution instantly ;-)
-- Massimo
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Harald Oehlmann <ha...@elmicron.de>.
Hi Massimo,
thank you. I will attack the rpm's after my holiday in August, ok ?
Enjoy the time,
Harald
Am 20.07.2015 um 11:04 schrieb Massimo Manghi:
> Hi Harald
>
> On 07/17/2015 03:48 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
>> So we have to find out which unix has:
>> - TCL 8.5.10 ... TCL 8.5.19
>> - TCL 8.6.0 ... TCL 8.6.5
>
> 8.6.1 -> ...
>
>> on
>> CentOS 7
>> RedHat 7
>> ScientificLinux 7
>
> all of them seem to have a version of Tcl that fulfills the criteria.
> I'm not sure about CentOS but since the naming scheme for its packages
> suggests it's based on RHEL's same version I assume they have 8.5.13.
>
>> ?
>> Fedora Rawhide, 22: TCL 8.6.4
>> Mandriva: 8.6.0
>>
>
> mandriva is not in the list shown on the page. Anyway, 8.6.0 doesn't fit
> the criteria.
>
> -- Massimo
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Massimo Manghi <ma...@unipr.it>.
Hi Harald
On 07/17/2015 03:48 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
> So we have to find out which unix has:
> - TCL 8.5.10 ... TCL 8.5.19
> - TCL 8.6.0 ... TCL 8.6.5
8.6.1 -> ...
> on
> CentOS 7
> RedHat 7
> ScientificLinux 7
all of them seem to have a version of Tcl that fulfills the criteria.
I'm not sure about CentOS but since the naming scheme for its packages
suggests it's based on RHEL's same version I assume they have 8.5.13.
> ?
> Fedora Rawhide, 22: TCL 8.6.4
> Mandriva: 8.6.0
>
mandriva is not in the list shown on the page. Anyway, 8.6.0 doesn't fit
the criteria.
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Harald Oehlmann <ha...@elmicron.de>.
So we have to find out which unix has:
- TCL 8.5.10 ... TCL 8.5.19
- TCL 8.6.0 ... TCL 8.6.5
on
CentOS 7
RedHat 7
ScientificLinux 7
?
Fedora Rawhide, 22: TCL 8.6.4
Mandriva: 8.6.0
Thanks,
Harald
Am 17.07.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Massimo Manghi:
> On 17-07-2015 10:46, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
>> Yes !
>>
>
>
> good, out memories coincided. I can't recall of any other issues with
> mod_rivet and Tcl right now...
>
> -- Massimo
>
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Massimo Manghi <ma...@unipr.it>.
On 17-07-2015 10:46, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
> Yes !
>
good, out memories coincided. I can't recall of any other issues with
mod_rivet and Tcl right now...
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Harald Oehlmann <ha...@elmicron.de>.
Yes !
Am 17.07.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Massimo Manghi:
> I think you're are hinting at this bug (I'm quoting from
> branches/2.2/src/apache-2/mod_rivet.c:930)
>
> /* Loading into the interpreter commands in librivet.so */
> /* Tcl Bug #3216070 has been solved with 8.5.10 and commands
> * shipped with Rivetlib can be mapped at this stage
> */
>
> if(Tcl_PkgRequire(interp,RIVETLIB_TCL_PACKAGE,RIVET_VERSION,1) == NULL)
> {
> ...
> }
>
> On Unix Tcl_PkgRequire and 'load' eventually share the same call to
> TclpDlopen (unix/tclLoadDl.c in Tcl source tree). Fixing the bug implied
> that libraries had be loaded by default using RTLD_LOCAL
>
> -- Massimo
>
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Massimo Manghi <ma...@unipr.it>.
I think you're are hinting at this bug (I'm quoting from
branches/2.2/src/apache-2/mod_rivet.c:930)
/* Loading into the interpreter commands in librivet.so */
/* Tcl Bug #3216070 has been solved with 8.5.10 and commands
* shipped with Rivetlib can be mapped at this stage
*/
if(Tcl_PkgRequire(interp,RIVETLIB_TCL_PACKAGE,RIVET_VERSION,1) == NULL)
{
...
}
On Unix Tcl_PkgRequire and 'load' eventually share the same call to
TclpDlopen (unix/tclLoadDl.c in Tcl source tree). Fixing the bug implied
that libraries had be loaded by default using RTLD_LOCAL
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Harald Oehlmann <ha...@elmicron.de>.
Hi Massimo,
the main requirement on my radar is TCL 8.5.7?? to have "load
-something" which was an issue for Rivet.
I don't recall the exact TCL version.
Thanks,
Harald
Am 17.07.2015 um 10:46 schrieb Massimo Manghi:
> good question...assuming all of these OS run Apache 2.2 or 2.4 and have
> Tcl 8.5 / 8.6 the only problems I can recall is the notifier
> initialization bug in the child processes spawned by a fork. Tcl
> versions that fixed it using the atfork system call were 8.5.15 and
> 8.6.1. There was another bug in Tcl_PkgRequire that loaded globally
> symbols of a binary package and it was fixed in 8.5.11 IIRC
>
> FWIK mod_rivet should build with any version of APR in the series 1.x
>
> When we are ready to release the code in trunk (temporarily labeled as
> 2.3.0) the whole issue with the notifier will eventually be confined to
> the prefork MPM of Apache. Today prefork is mandatory for mod_rivet to
> work (even though also 'event' is reported to work), but with any
> threaded MPM the Tcl interpreters are created from scratch and are not
> supposed to survive unscathed a fork call. This should be stressed in
> the documentation very clearly: the prefork MPM enjoys the ability of a
> fork to clone a processes but it will be just a special case.
>
> -- Massimo
>
> On 07/16/2015 03:10 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
>> Hi Massimo,
>>
>> You already helped. If you can tell me which Rivet builds for which
>> version, I will take care.
>>
>> I just used 2.0.6, as this is the latest building on CentOS 6.x (due to
>> Tcl 8.5.3).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harald
>>
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Massimo Manghi <ma...@unipr.it>.
good question...assuming all of these OS run Apache 2.2 or 2.4 and have
Tcl 8.5 / 8.6 the only problems I can recall is the notifier
initialization bug in the child processes spawned by a fork. Tcl
versions that fixed it using the atfork system call were 8.5.15 and
8.6.1. There was another bug in Tcl_PkgRequire that loaded globally
symbols of a binary package and it was fixed in 8.5.11 IIRC
FWIK mod_rivet should build with any version of APR in the series 1.x
When we are ready to release the code in trunk (temporarily labeled as
2.3.0) the whole issue with the notifier will eventually be confined to
the prefork MPM of Apache. Today prefork is mandatory for mod_rivet to
work (even though also 'event' is reported to work), but with any
threaded MPM the Tcl interpreters are created from scratch and are not
supposed to survive unscathed a fork call. This should be stressed in
the documentation very clearly: the prefork MPM enjoys the ability of a
fork to clone a processes but it will be just a special case.
-- Massimo
On 07/16/2015 03:10 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
> Hi Massimo,
>
> You already helped. If you can tell me which Rivet builds for which
> version, I will take care.
>
> I just used 2.0.6, as this is the latest building on CentOS 6.x (due to
> Tcl 8.5.3).
>
> Thanks,
> Harald
>
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Harald Oehlmann <ha...@elmicron.de>.
Hi Massimo,
You already helped. If you can tell me which Rivet builds for which
version, I will take care.
I just used 2.0.6, as this is the latest building on CentOS 6.x (due to
Tcl 8.5.3).
Thanks,
Harald
Am 16.07.2015 um 13:15 schrieb Massimo Manghi:
> How does it work? Can we contribute ourselves? I noticed Scientific
> Linux supports Rivet 2.0.6 (quite old and deprecated) and it's listed as
> unstable. S.L. is quite popular here, can we somehow help to upgrade and
> declare it stable?
>
> -- Massimo
>
> On 07/15/2015 03:29 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> the funny build service:
>>
>> http://software.opensuse.org/package/apache2-mod_rivet?search_term=apache2-mod_rivet
>>
>>
>>
>> has news:
>> Rivet 2.2.3 for SuSE
>> Rivet 2.0.6 for Redhat 7 and friends
>>
>> -> In my spec file, I fail to make the difference between CentOS 6 and 7
>> where apxs changed location: /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin
>>
>> So I ran the spec file once with one entry and once with the other and
>> got all packages ;-)
>>
>> Rivet 2.2.0 by a user called pgajdos.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Harald
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: rivet-dev-unsubscribe@tcl.apache.org
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Re: rpm for Redhat 7 and friends
Posted by Massimo Manghi <ma...@unipr.it>.
How does it work? Can we contribute ourselves? I noticed Scientific
Linux supports Rivet 2.0.6 (quite old and deprecated) and it's listed as
unstable. S.L. is quite popular here, can we somehow help to upgrade and
declare it stable?
-- Massimo
On 07/15/2015 03:29 PM, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> the funny build service:
>
> http://software.opensuse.org/package/apache2-mod_rivet?search_term=apache2-mod_rivet
>
>
> has news:
> Rivet 2.2.3 for SuSE
> Rivet 2.0.6 for Redhat 7 and friends
>
> -> In my spec file, I fail to make the difference between CentOS 6 and 7
> where apxs changed location: /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin
>
> So I ran the spec file once with one entry and once with the other and
> got all packages ;-)
>
> Rivet 2.2.0 by a user called pgajdos.
>
> Enjoy,
> Harald
>
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