Next release

[David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>]

Was chatting with Romain and he mentioned some fixes he wanted to add that didn't make this release.  I imagine that there'll be plenty of fixes that will happen over the next couple weeks.

For several small reasons that add up and are totally unmeasurable, we tend to drift into long release cycles.  We say we're going to release more frequently, but it hasn't happened yet.  I'm thinking maybe we just need to set the date to ensure we actually do.

What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2 weeks from now?


-David

Re: Next release

[Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>]

Also agree on that.

2011/10/2 Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>

> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2 weeks
> from now?
>
> Agree wholeheartedly.
>
> Jacek
>
> --
> Jacek Laskowski
> Java EE, functional languages and IBM WebSphere - http://blog.japila.pl
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> http://confitura.pl
> "Hoping to save time by spending it" by David Blevins (Apache OpenEJB)
>

Re: Next release

[Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2 weeks from now?

Agree wholeheartedly.

Jacek

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Jacek Laskowski
Java EE, functional languages and IBM WebSphere - http://blog.japila.pl
Warszawa JUG conference = Confitura (formerly Javarsovia) :: http://confitura.pl
"Hoping to save time by spending it" by David Blevins (Apache OpenEJB)

Re: Next release

[David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>]

I'm not sure I can predict how a 4 month development cycle might look.

We need to be releasing at least something way more frequently or we'll never get our release process streamlined, oiled up, and always running warm like a finely tuned engine.

Currently our release process is like a old car that sits in the driveway for months and months and a simple trip to the store takes forever because you have to change the oil, fill up the tires, clean the windows and chase raccoons out of the trunk before you can get it on the road.  Then it breaks down 3 or 4 times on the way there....


-David

On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:

> +1 for a 4 mounths release with 3 weeks beta.
> 
> - Romain
> 
> Le 30 sept. 2011 22:33, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> I agree too. A release every 4 months with a feature freeze around 3
>> weeks ahead of the release would be good, should give a window for
>> bug-fixing for the release. Once we agree upon the general time lines,
>> I could go ahead and document this process. Predictable release cycles
>> are always good from the users perspective too.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Jonathan Gallimore
>> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I definitely agree. Sounds great.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> On Sep 30, 2011 8:01 PM, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Was chatting with Romain and he mentioned some fixes he wanted to add
> that
>>> didn't make this release. I imagine that there'll be plenty of fixes that
>>> will happen over the next couple weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> For several small reasons that add up and are totally unmeasurable, we
>>> tend to drift into long release cycles. We say we're going to release
> more
>>> frequently, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm thinking maybe we just need
> to
>>> set the date to ensure we actually do.
>>>> 
>>>> What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2
> weeks
>>> from now?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -David
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Karan Singh Malhi
>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi

Re: Next release

[Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>]

+1 for a 4 mounths release with 3 weeks beta.

- Romain

Le 30 sept. 2011 22:33, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> I agree too. A release every 4 months with a feature freeze around 3
> weeks ahead of the release would be good, should give a window for
> bug-fixing for the release. Once we agree upon the general time lines,
> I could go ahead and document this process. Predictable release cycles
> are always good from the users perspective too.
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Jonathan Gallimore
> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I definitely agree. Sounds great.
>>
>> Jon
>> On Sep 30, 2011 8:01 PM, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Was chatting with Romain and he mentioned some fixes he wanted to add
that
>> didn't make this release. I imagine that there'll be plenty of fixes that
>> will happen over the next couple weeks.
>>>
>>> For several small reasons that add up and are totally unmeasurable, we
>> tend to drift into long release cycles. We say we're going to release
more
>> frequently, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm thinking maybe we just need
to
>> set the date to ensure we actually do.
>>>
>>> What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2
weeks
>> from now?
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Karan Singh Malhi
> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi

Re: Next release

[Karan Malhi <ka...@gmail.com>]

I agree too. A release every 4 months with a feature freeze around 3
weeks ahead of the release would be good, should give a window for
bug-fixing for the release. Once we agree upon the general time lines,
I could go ahead and document this process. Predictable release cycles
are always good from the users perspective too.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Jonathan Gallimore
<jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I definitely agree. Sounds great.
>
> Jon
> On Sep 30, 2011 8:01 PM, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Was chatting with Romain and he mentioned some fixes he wanted to add that
> didn't make this release. I imagine that there'll be plenty of fixes that
> will happen over the next couple weeks.
>>
>> For several small reasons that add up and are totally unmeasurable, we
> tend to drift into long release cycles. We say we're going to release more
> frequently, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm thinking maybe we just need to
> set the date to ensure we actually do.
>>
>> What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2 weeks
> from now?
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>



-- 

Karan Singh Malhi
twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi

Re: Next release

[Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>]

I definitely agree. Sounds great.

Jon
On Sep 30, 2011 8:01 PM, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Was chatting with Romain and he mentioned some fixes he wanted to add that
didn't make this release. I imagine that there'll be plenty of fixes that
will happen over the next couple weeks.
>
> For several small reasons that add up and are totally unmeasurable, we
tend to drift into long release cycles. We say we're going to release more
frequently, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm thinking maybe we just need to
set the date to ensure we actually do.
>
> What do people think about a next release potentially as short as 2 weeks
from now?
>
>
> -David
>