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Posted to notifications@jakarta.apache.org by ra...@apache.org on 2010/04/22 20:06:58 UTC

svn commit: r936989 - in /jakarta/site: docs/site/mail.html docs/site/mail2.html xdocs/site/mail-toc.ent xdocs/site/mail2.xml

Author: rahul
Date: Thu Apr 22 18:06:58 2010
New Revision: 936989

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=936989&view=rev
Log:
Overhaul the mailing lists pages given recent consolidation:
 * Add information about new Jakarta-wide dev and notifications lists, with a mention of list email subject conventions
 * Remove subscribe/unsubscribe links to old subproject dev lists but leave a link to archives in place with a pointer to new dev list
 * Similarly removed parts of site-cvs@ info
 * Sorted and re-ordered to have retired projects at the end
 * Cleaned up retired section, now points to Attic for Slide and Taglibs
 * Added a short descriptive phrase for each subproject (if missing)
 * Corrected some typos and broken links
 

Modified:
    jakarta/site/docs/site/mail.html
    jakarta/site/docs/site/mail2.html
    jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail-toc.ent
    jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail2.xml

Modified: jakarta/site/docs/site/mail.html
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/docs/site/mail.html?rev=936989&r1=936988&r2=936989&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- jakarta/site/docs/site/mail.html (original)
+++ jakarta/site/docs/site/mail.html Thu Apr 22 18:06:58 2010
@@ -357,7 +357,13 @@ yourself the embarrassment.
 <a href="mail2.html#General">General</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="mail2.html#Documentation">Documentation</a>
+<a href="mail2.html#Development">Development</a>
+</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td/>
+<td>
+<a href="mail2.html#Notifications">Notifications</a>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
@@ -366,10 +372,10 @@ yourself the embarrassment.
 <tr>
 <td>Subprojects:</td>
 <td>
-<a href="mail2.html#BSF">BSF</a>
+<a href="mail2.html#BCEL">BCEL</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="mail2.html#BCEL">BCEL</a>
+<a href="mail2.html#BSF">BSF</a>
 </td>
 <td>
 <a href="mail2.html#Cactus">Cactus</a>
@@ -383,12 +389,12 @@ yourself the embarrassment.
 <td>
 <a href="mail2.html#JCS">JCS</a>
 </td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
-<td/>
 <td>
 <a href="mail2.html#JMeter">JMeter</a>
 </td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td/>
 <td>
 <a href="mail2.html#ORO">ORO</a>
 </td>
@@ -403,15 +409,15 @@ yourself the embarrassment.
 <td/>
 </tr>
 <tr>
-<td>Retired: </td>
+<td>Retired:</td>
 <td>
-<a href="mail2.html#Alexandria">Alexandria</a>
+<a href="mail2.html#Retired">Alexandria</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="mail2.html#Slide">Slide</a>
+<a href="mail2.html#Retired">Slide</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="mail2.html#Taglibs">Taglibs</a>
+<a href="mail2.html#Retired">Taglibs</a>
 </td>
 </tr>
 </table>

Modified: jakarta/site/docs/site/mail2.html
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/docs/site/mail2.html?rev=936989&r1=936988&r2=936989&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- jakarta/site/docs/site/mail2.html (original)
+++ jakarta/site/docs/site/mail2.html Thu Apr 22 18:06:58 2010
@@ -188,9 +188,6 @@ There are several sites that archive and
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/">mail-archives.apache.org</a>
 </li>
 <li>
-<a href="/mail/">Full mbox archives of all lists.</a>
-</li>
-<li>
 <a href="http://jakarta.markmail.org/">Mark Mail</a> </li>
 <li>
 <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/">mail-archive.com</a> </li>
@@ -221,7 +218,13 @@ There are several sites that archive and
 <a href="#General">General</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="#Documentation">Documentation</a>
+<a href="#Development">Development</a>
+</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td/>
+<td>
+<a href="#Notifications">Notifications</a>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
@@ -230,10 +233,10 @@ There are several sites that archive and
 <tr>
 <td>Subprojects:</td>
 <td>
-<a href="#BSF">BSF</a>
+<a href="#BCEL">BCEL</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="#BCEL">BCEL</a>
+<a href="#BSF">BSF</a>
 </td>
 <td>
 <a href="#Cactus">Cactus</a>
@@ -247,12 +250,12 @@ There are several sites that archive and
 <td>
 <a href="#JCS">JCS</a>
 </td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
-<td/>
 <td>
 <a href="#JMeter">JMeter</a>
 </td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td/>
 <td>
 <a href="#ORO">ORO</a>
 </td>
@@ -267,15 +270,15 @@ There are several sites that archive and
 <td/>
 </tr>
 <tr>
-<td>Retired: </td>
+<td>Retired:</td>
 <td>
-<a href="#Alexandria">Alexandria</a>
+<a href="#Retired">Alexandria</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="#Slide">Slide</a>
+<a href="#Retired">Slide</a>
 </td>
 <td>
-<a href="#Taglibs">Taglibs</a>
+<a href="#Retired">Taglibs</a>
 </td>
 </tr>
 </table>
@@ -309,63 +312,108 @@ to this moderated list to get general an
 </div>
 <div class="section">
 <div class="section-header">
-<a name="Alexandria">
-<strong>Alexandria</strong>
+<a name="General">
+<strong>General</strong>
 </a>
 </div>
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
-<b>The Alexandria User List</b>
+<b>The Jakarta General Project List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-user/">Archive</a>
+<a href="mailto:general-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:general-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/">Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Alexandria Developer List</b>
-<br/>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-dev/">Archive</a>
+This is the project general mailing list. This is where ideas, suggestions, 
+and comments are exchanged that deal with the <b>*overall* Jakarta project</b>. 
+<em>READ:</em> This is <b>*not*</b> a place to ask technical questions related to <a href="#tomcat">Tomcat</a>, <a href="#struts">Struts</a> or 
+<a href="">any other single Jakarta project</a>.
+Matters that affect the project as a whole are decided here. If you are interested
+in adding a new project to Jakarta, please see <a href="newproject.html">this page</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
 </div>
 <div class="section">
 <div class="section-header">
-<a name="BSF">
-<strong>BSF</strong>
+<a name="Development">
+<strong>Development</strong>
 </a>
 </div>
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
-<b>
-<i>Note: Bean Scripting Framework</i>
-</b>
-</p>
-<p>
-<b>The BSF User List</b>
+<b>The Jakarta Development List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:bsf-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:bsf-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
 <a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-user/">Archive</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-dev/">Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-This list is for users of BSF to ask questions, share knowledge, and 
-discuss issues related to using BSF.
+This is the shared mailing list for development discussions related to all
+Jakarta subprojects.
+<ul>
+<li>
+<strong>Please do not send usage questions to this list, see user lists
+    below.</strong>
+</li>
+<li>
+<strong>Since this is a shared mailing list, convention is to prefix
+    email subjects with the subproject name in square brackets, e.g. [BSF]
+    or [JMeter].</strong>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</p>
+<p>
+This is the list where participating developers of the each of the
+subprojects meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions etc.
+</p>
+</div>
 </p>
+</div>
+<div class="section">
+<div class="section-header">
+<a name="Notifications">
+<strong>Notifications</strong>
+</a>
+</div>
+<p>
+<div class="section-body">
 <p>
-<b>The BSF Developer List</b>
+<b>The Jakarta Notifications List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:bsf-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:bsf-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:notifications-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:notifications-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
 <a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-dev/">Archive</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-notifications/">Archive</a>
+</p>
+<p>
+This is the shared mailing list for automated notification messages related
+to all Jakarta subprojects. These include SVN commit messages, issue tracker
+notifications (Bugzilla and JIRA), build notifications (Hudson, buildbot)
+and Gump nags.
+<ul>
+<li>
+<strong>This is the list for automated messages, please do not send
+    email to this list. Please send usage questions to user lists
+    below.</strong>
+</li>
+<li>
+<strong>Subscribers to this list get notices of each and every code
+    change, build results, testing notices, etc.</strong>
+</li>
+</ul>
 </p>
 <p>
-This is the list where participating developers of BSF meet
-and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers 
-to this list get notices of each and every code change, build results, 
-testing notices, etc.
+Changes to the Jakarta website are echoed to this list. If you have
+comments or suggestions about the site please send them to the
+general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list. We have fairly good
+<a href="/site/jakarta-site2.html">instructions</a> for modifying the
+site and creating <a href="/site/source.html">patches</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
@@ -380,7 +428,7 @@ testing notices, etc.
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
 <b>
-<i>Note: Byte Code Enginerring Library</i>
+<i>Note: Byte Code Engineering Library</i>
 </b>
 </p>
 <p>
@@ -396,18 +444,46 @@ This list is for users of BCEL to ask qu
 discuss issues related to using BCEL.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The BCEL Developer List</b>
+<b>Old BCEL Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:bcel-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:bcel-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bcel-dev/">Archive</a>
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
+</p>
+</div>
+</p>
+</div>
+<div class="section">
+<div class="section-header">
+<a name="BSF">
+<strong>BSF</strong>
+</a>
+</div>
+<p>
+<div class="section-body">
+<p>
+<b>
+<i>Note: Bean Scripting Framework</i>
+</b>
+</p>
+<p>
+<b>The BSF User List</b>
+<br/>
+<a href="mailto:bsf-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
+<a href="mailto:bsf-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-user/">Archive</a>
+</p>
+<p>
+This list is for users of BSF to ask questions, share knowledge, and 
+discuss issues related to using BSF.
 </p>
 <p>
-This is the list where participating developers of BCEL meet
-and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers 
-to this list get notices of each and every code change, build results, 
-testing notices, etc.
+<b>Old BSF Developer List</b>
+<br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-dev/">Archive</a>
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
@@ -421,6 +497,11 @@ testing notices, etc.
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
+<b>
+<i>Note: Web application unit-test framework</i>
+</b>
+</p>
+<p>
 <b>The Cactus User List</b>
 <br/>
 <a href="mailto:cactus-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
@@ -433,17 +514,11 @@ This list is for users of Cactus to ask 
 discuss issues related to using Cactus.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Cactus Developer List</b>
+<b>Old Cactus Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:cactus-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:cactus-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-cactus-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of Cactus meet and discuss 
-issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers to this list 
-get notices of each and every code change, build results, testing notices, etc.
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
@@ -457,6 +532,12 @@ get notices of each and every code chang
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
+<b>
+<i>Note: Element Construction Set</i>
+</b>
+</p>
+
+<p>
 <b>The ECS User List</b>
 <br/>
 <a href="mailto:ecs-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
@@ -469,65 +550,29 @@ This list is for developers that are usi
 ask questions, share knowledge, and discuss issues related to using ECS.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The ECS Developer List</b>
+<b>Old ECS Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:ecs-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:ecs-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-ecs-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Element Construction Set 
-meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers to this list 
-get notices of each and every code change, build results, testing notices, etc.
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
 </div>
 <div class="section">
 <div class="section-header">
-<a name="Documentation">
-<strong>Documentation</strong>
+<a name="JCS">
+<strong>JCS</strong>
 </a>
 </div>
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
 <b>
-<i>Note: Jakarta Documentation</i>
+<i>Note: Java Caching System</i>
 </b>
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Jakarta Website Change Commit List</b>
-<br/>
-<a href="mailto:site-cvs-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:site-cvs-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-site-cvs/">Archive</a>
-Don't send mail to this list
-</p>
-<p>
-Changes to the Jakarta website are echoed to this list. Useful if you
-want to find out when this site's been updated. Note, if you have
-comments or suggestions about the site please send them to the
-general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list. Instructions for subscribing
-are also on this page. The site is also checked into CVS under the <a href="/site/cvsindex.html">jakarta-site2</a> module. We have fairly good
-<a href="/site/jakarta-site2.html">instructions</a> for modifying the
-site. <a href="/site/source.html">Patches send to the general@list are
-welcomed.</a>
-</p>
-</div>
-</p>
-</div>
-<div class="section">
-<div class="section-header">
-<a name="JCS">
-<strong>JCS</strong>
-</a>
-</div>
-<p>
-<div class="section-body">
-<p>
 <b>The JCS User List</b>
 <br/>
 <a href="mailto:jcs-users-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
@@ -540,15 +585,11 @@ List for JCS users to meet, discuss and 
 Developers will also be lurking around.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The JCS Developer List</b>
+<b>Old JCS Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:jcs-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:jcs-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jcs-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This list is where discussion of JCS development occurs.
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
@@ -562,6 +603,11 @@ This list is where discussion of JCS dev
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
+<b>
+<i>Note: Load test and performance measurement application</i>
+</b>
+</p>
+<p>
 <b>The JMeter User List</b>
 <br/>
 <a href="mailto:jmeter-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
@@ -575,20 +621,11 @@ issues. Developers are also expected to 
 offer support to users of Jakarta-JMeter.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The JMeter Developer List</b>
+<b>Old JMeter Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:jmeter-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:jmeter-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jmeter-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Jakarta-JMeter
-Package meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions,
-etc. Subscribers to this list get notices of each and every code
-change, build results, testing notices, etc. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what jmeter-user is for.
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
@@ -620,20 +657,11 @@ issues. Developers are also expected to 
 offer support to users of Jakarta-ORO.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The ORO Developer List</b>
+<b>Old ORO Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:oro-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:oro-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-oro-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Jakarta-ORO
-Package meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions,
-etc. Subscribers to this list get notices of each and every code
-change, build results, testing notices, etc. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what oro-user is for.
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
@@ -647,6 +675,11 @@ this list with usage questions or config
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
+<b>
+<i>Note: Regular Expressions Library</i>
+</b>
+</p>
+<p>
 <b>The Regexp User List</b>
 <br/>
 <a href="mailto:regexp-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
@@ -660,87 +693,70 @@ issues. Developers are also expected to 
 offer support to users of Regexp.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Regexp Developer List</b>
+<b>Old Regexp Developer List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:regexp-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:regexp-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
 <a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-regexp-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Regexp Package meet 
-and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers 
-to this list get notices of each and every code change, build results, 
-testing notices, etc. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what regexp-user is for.
+<br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
 </div>
 <div class="section">
 <div class="section-header">
-<a name="Slide">
-<strong>Slide</strong>
+<a name="Documentation">
+<strong>Documentation</strong>
 </a>
 </div>
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
-<b>The Slide User List</b>
+<b>Old Jakarta Website Change Commit List</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:slide-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:slide-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-user/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list for users of the content management and WebDAV tools
-to ask questions about how to install and use these components.  Slide
-developers should also join this list to offer support to their users.
-</p>
-<p>
-<b>The Slide Developer List</b>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-site-cvs/">Archive</a>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:slide-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:slide-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-Developers working on the content management tools and WebDAV implementation
-included in the <strong>slide</strong> project should subscribe to this list.
-Subscribers will also get notices of every CVS checkin of new or changed
-code modules. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what slide-user is for.
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>
 </div>
 <div class="section">
 <div class="section-header">
-<a name="General">
-<strong>General</strong>
+<a name="Retired">
+<strong>Retired</strong>
 </a>
 </div>
 <p>
 <div class="section-body">
 <p>
-<b>The Jakarta General Project List</b>
+<strong>The following Jakarta subprojects have been retired.</strong>
+</p>
+<p>
+<b>Alexandria</b>
 <br/>
-<a href="mailto:general-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:general-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/">Archive</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-user/">Old User List Archive</a>
+<br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-dev/">Old Development List Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-This is the project general mailing list. This is where ideas, suggestions, 
-and comments are exchanged that deal with the <b>*overall* Jakarta project</b>. 
-<em>READ:</em> This is <b>*not*</b> a place to ask technical questions related to <a href="#tomcat">Tomcat</a>, <a href="#struts">Struts</a> or 
-<a href="">any other single Jakarta project</a>.
-Matters that affect the project as a whole are decided here. If you are interested
-in adding a new project to Jakarta, please see <a href="newproject.html">this page</a>.
+<b>Slide</b>
+<br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-user/">Old User List Archive</a>
+<br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-dev/">Old Development List Archive</a>
+<br/>
+Moved to Apache Attic, see <a href="http://attic.apache.org">Attic website</a>
+for more information.
+</p>
+<p>
+<b>Taglibs</b>
+<br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-taglibs-user/">Old User List Archive</a>
+<br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-taglibs-dev/">Old Development List Archive</a>
+<br/>
+Moved to Apache Attic, see <a href="http://attic.apache.org">Attic website</a>
+for more information.
 </p>
 </div>
 </p>

Modified: jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail-toc.ent
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail-toc.ent?rev=936989&r1=936988&r2=936989&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail-toc.ent (original)
+++ jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail-toc.ent Thu Apr 22 18:06:58 2010
@@ -5,23 +5,27 @@
 <td>Jakarta:</td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#Announcement">Announcement</a></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#General">General</a></td>
-<td><a href="&mail-path;#Documentation">Documentation</a></td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#Development">Development</a></td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td></td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#Notifications">Notifications</a></td>
 </tr>
 <tr><td></td></tr>
 <tr>
 <td>Subprojects:</td>
-<td><a href="&mail-path;#BSF">BSF</a></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#BCEL">BCEL</a></td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#BSF">BSF</a></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#Cactus">Cactus</a></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#ECS">ECS</a></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#JCS">JCS</a></td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#JMeter">JMeter</a></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td></td>
-<td><a href="&mail-path;#JMeter">JMeter</a></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#ORO">ORO</a></td>
 <td><a href="&mail-path;#Regexp">Regexp</a></td>
 </tr>
@@ -30,10 +34,10 @@
 </tr>
 <tr><td></td></tr>
 <tr>
-<td>Retired: </td>
-<td><a href="&mail-path;#Alexandria">Alexandria</a></td>
-<td><a href="&mail-path;#Slide">Slide</a></td>
-<td><a href="&mail-path;#Taglibs">Taglibs</a></td>
+<td>Retired:</td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#Retired">Alexandria</a></td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#Retired">Slide</a></td>
+<td><a href="&mail-path;#Retired">Taglibs</a></td>
 </tr>
 </table>
 </p>

Modified: jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail2.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail2.xml?rev=936989&r1=936988&r2=936989&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail2.xml (original)
+++ jakarta/site/xdocs/site/mail2.xml Thu Apr 22 18:06:58 2010
@@ -50,7 +50,6 @@ There are several sites that archive and
 <p>
 <ul>
 <li><a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/">mail-archives.apache.org</a></li>
-<li><a href="/mail/">Full mbox archives of all lists.</a></li>
 <li><a href="http://jakarta.markmail.org/">Mark Mail</a> </li>
 <li><a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/">mail-archive.com</a> </li>
 <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">marc.theaimsgroup.com</a></li>
@@ -74,51 +73,83 @@ the time to read all the messages on the
 to this moderated list to get general announcements.
 </p>
 </section>
-      
-<section name="Alexandria">
+
+<section name="General">
 <p>
-<b>The Alexandria User List</b><br/>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-user/">Archive</a>
+<b>The Jakarta General Project List</b><br/>
+<a href="mailto:general-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:general-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/">Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Alexandria Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-dev/">Archive</a>
+This is the project general mailing list. This is where ideas, suggestions, 
+and comments are exchanged that deal with the <b>*overall* Jakarta project</b>. 
+<em>READ:</em> This is <b>*not*</b> a place to ask technical questions related to <a href="#tomcat">Tomcat</a>, <a href="#struts">Struts</a> or 
+<a href="">any other single Jakarta project</a>.
+Matters that affect the project as a whole are decided here. If you are interested
+in adding a new project to Jakarta, please see <a href="newproject.html">this page</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
-<section name="BSF">
+<section name="Development">
 <p>
-<b><i>Note: Bean Scripting Framework</i></b>
+<b>The Jakarta Development List</b><br/>
+<a href="mailto:dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-dev/">Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The BSF User List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:bsf-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:bsf-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-user/">Archive</a>
+This is the shared mailing list for development discussions related to all
+Jakarta subprojects.
+<ul>
+<li><strong>Please do not send usage questions to this list, see user lists
+    below.</strong></li>
+<li><strong>Since this is a shared mailing list, convention is to prefix
+    email subjects with the subproject name in square brackets, e.g. [BSF]
+    or [JMeter].</strong></li>
+</ul>
 </p>
 <p>
-This list is for users of BSF to ask questions, share knowledge, and 
-discuss issues related to using BSF.
+This is the list where participating developers of the each of the
+subprojects meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions etc.
 </p>
+</section>
+
+<section name="Notifications">
 <p>
-<b>The BSF Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:bsf-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:bsf-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<b>The Jakarta Notifications List</b><br/>
+<a href="mailto:notifications-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
+<a href="mailto:notifications-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
 <a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-dev/">Archive</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-notifications/">Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-This is the list where participating developers of BSF meet
-and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers 
-to this list get notices of each and every code change, build results, 
-testing notices, etc.
+This is the shared mailing list for automated notification messages related
+to all Jakarta subprojects. These include SVN commit messages, issue tracker
+notifications (Bugzilla and JIRA), build notifications (Hudson, buildbot)
+and Gump nags.
+<ul>
+<li><strong>This is the list for automated messages, please do not send
+    email to this list. Please send usage questions to user lists
+    below.</strong></li>
+<li><strong>Subscribers to this list get notices of each and every code
+    change, build results, testing notices, etc.</strong></li>
+</ul>
+</p>
+<p>
+Changes to the Jakarta website are echoed to this list. If you have
+comments or suggestions about the site please send them to the
+general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list. We have fairly good
+<a href="/site/jakarta-site2.html">instructions</a> for modifying the
+site and creating <a href="/site/source.html">patches</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
 <section name="BCEL">
 <p>
-<b><i>Note: Byte Code Enginerring Library</i></b>
+<b><i>Note: Byte Code Engineering Library</i></b>
 </p>
 <p>
 <b>The BCEL User List</b><br/>
@@ -132,22 +163,39 @@ This list is for users of BCEL to ask qu
 discuss issues related to using BCEL.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The BCEL Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:bcel-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:bcel-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
+<b>Old BCEL Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bcel-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
+</p>
+</section>
+
+<section name="BSF">
+<p>
+<b><i>Note: Bean Scripting Framework</i></b>
+</p>
+<p>
+<b>The BSF User List</b><br/>
+<a href="mailto:bsf-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
+<a href="mailto:bsf-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
 <a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bcel-dev/">Archive</a>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-user/">Archive</a>
+</p>
+<p>
+This list is for users of BSF to ask questions, share knowledge, and 
+discuss issues related to using BSF.
 </p>
 <p>
-This is the list where participating developers of BCEL meet
-and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers 
-to this list get notices of each and every code change, build results, 
-testing notices, etc.
+<b>Old BSF Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-bsf-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
 <section name="Cactus">
 <p>
+<b><i>Note: Web application unit-test framework</i></b>
+</p>
+<p>
 <b>The Cactus User List</b><br/>
 <a href="mailto:cactus-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
 <a href="mailto:cactus-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
@@ -159,22 +207,19 @@ This list is for users of Cactus to ask 
 discuss issues related to using Cactus.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Cactus Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:cactus-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:cactus-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-cactus-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of Cactus meet and discuss 
-issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers to this list 
-get notices of each and every code change, build results, testing notices, etc.
+<b>Old Cactus Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-cactus-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
 
 <section name="ECS">
 <p>
+<b><i>Note: Element Construction Set</i></b>
+</p>
+
+<p>
 <b>The ECS User List</b><br/>
 <a href="mailto:ecs-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
 <a href="mailto:ecs-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
@@ -186,46 +231,16 @@ This list is for developers that are usi
 ask questions, share knowledge, and discuss issues related to using ECS.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The ECS Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:ecs-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:ecs-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-ecs-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Element Construction Set 
-meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers to this list 
-get notices of each and every code change, build results, testing notices, etc.
+<b>Old ECS Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-ecs-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
-<section name="Documentation">
-<p>
-<b><i>Note: Jakarta Documentation</i></b>
-</p>
-<p>
-<b>The Jakarta Website Change Commit List</b><br />
-<a href="mailto:site-cvs-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:site-cvs-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-site-cvs/">Archive</a>
-Don't send mail to this list
-</p>
+<section name="JCS">
 <p>
-Changes to the Jakarta website are echoed to this list. Useful if you
-want to find out when this site's been updated. Note, if you have
-comments or suggestions about the site please send them to the
-general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list. Instructions for subscribing
-are also on this page. The site is also checked into CVS under the <a
-href="/site/cvsindex.html">jakarta-site2</a> module. We have fairly good
-<a href="/site/jakarta-site2.html">instructions</a> for modifying the
-site. <a href="/site/source.html">Patches send to the general@list are
-welcomed.</a>
+<b><i>Note: Java Caching System</i></b>
 </p>
-</section>
-
-
-<section name="JCS">
 <p>
 <b>The JCS User List</b><br/>
 <a href="mailto:jcs-users-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
@@ -238,19 +253,17 @@ List for JCS users to meet, discuss and 
 Developers will also be lurking around.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The JCS Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:jcs-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:jcs-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jcs-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This list is where discussion of JCS development occurs.
+<b>Old JCS Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jcs-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
 <section name="JMeter">
 <p>
+<b><i>Note: Load test and performance measurement application</i></b>
+</p>
+<p>
 <b>The JMeter User List</b><br/>
 <a href="mailto:jmeter-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
 <a href="mailto:jmeter-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
@@ -263,23 +276,12 @@ issues. Developers are also expected to 
 offer support to users of Jakarta-JMeter.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The JMeter Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:jmeter-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:jmeter-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jmeter-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Jakarta-JMeter
-Package meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions,
-etc. Subscribers to this list get notices of each and every code
-change, build results, testing notices, etc. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what jmeter-user is for.
+<b>Old JMeter Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jmeter-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
-
 <section name="ORO">
 <p>
 <b><i>Note: APIs for Regular Expressions</i></b>
@@ -297,24 +299,17 @@ issues. Developers are also expected to 
 offer support to users of Jakarta-ORO.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The ORO Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:oro-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:oro-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-oro-dev/">Archive</a>
-</p>
-<p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Jakarta-ORO
-Package meet and discuss issues, code changes/additions,
-etc. Subscribers to this list get notices of each and every code
-change, build results, testing notices, etc. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what oro-user is for.
+<b>Old ORO Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-oro-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
 <section name="Regexp">
 <p>
+<b><i>Note: Regular Expressions Library</i></b>
+</p>
+<p>
 <b>The Regexp User List</b><br/>
 <a href="mailto:regexp-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
 <a href="mailto:regexp-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
@@ -327,70 +322,44 @@ issues. Developers are also expected to 
 offer support to users of Regexp.
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Regexp Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:regexp-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a>  
-<a href="mailto:regexp-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-regexp-dev/">Archive</a>
+<b>Old Regexp Developer List</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-regexp-dev/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
+</section>
+
+<section name="Documentation">
 <p>
-This is the list where participating developers of the Regexp Package meet 
-and discuss issues, code changes/additions, etc. Subscribers 
-to this list get notices of each and every code change, build results, 
-testing notices, etc. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what regexp-user is for.
+<b>Old Jakarta Website Change Commit List</b><br />
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-site-cvs/">Archive</a><br/>
+Replaced by <a href="#Development">Jakarta-wide developer list</a>.
 </p>
 </section>
 
-<section name="Slide">
+<section name="Retired">
 <p>
-<b>The Slide User List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:slide-user-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:slide-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-user/">Archive</a>
+<strong>The following Jakarta subprojects have been retired.</strong>
 </p>
 <p>
-This is the list for users of the content management and WebDAV tools
-to ask questions about how to install and use these components.  Slide
-developers should also join this list to offer support to their users.
+<b>Alexandria</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-user/">Old User List Archive</a><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-alexandria-dev/">Old Development List Archive</a>
 </p>
 <p>
-<b>The Slide Developer List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:slide-dev-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
-<a href="mailto:slide-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Unsubscribe</a> 
-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-dev/">Archive</a>
+<b>Slide</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-user/">Old User List Archive</a><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-dev/">Old Development List Archive</a><br/>
+Moved to Apache Attic, see <a href="http://attic.apache.org">Attic website</a>
+for more information.
 </p>
 <p>
-Developers working on the content management tools and WebDAV implementation
-included in the <strong>slide</strong> project should subscribe to this list.
-Subscribers will also get notices of every CVS checkin of new or changed
-code modules. <b>Do not send mail to
-this list with usage questions or configuration problems</b>
--- that's what slide-user is for.
+<b>Taglibs</b><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-taglibs-user/">Old User List Archive</a><br/>
+<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-taglibs-dev/">Old Development List Archive</a><br/>
+Moved to Apache Attic, see <a href="http://attic.apache.org">Attic website</a>
+for more information.
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-<b>The Jakarta General Project List</b><br/>
-<a href="mailto:general-subscribe@jakarta.apache.org">Subscribe</a> 
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-<a href="mail.html">Guidelines</a>
-<a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/">Archive</a>
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-This is the project general mailing list. This is where ideas, suggestions, 
-and comments are exchanged that deal with the <b>*overall* Jakarta project</b>. 
-<em>READ:</em> This is <b>*not*</b> a place to ask technical questions related to <a href="#tomcat">Tomcat</a>, <a href="#struts">Struts</a> or 
-<a href="">any other single Jakarta project</a>.
-Matters that affect the project as a whole are decided here. If you are interested
-in adding a new project to Jakarta, please see <a href="newproject.html">this page</a>.
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