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Posted to dev@cassandra.apache.org by Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> on 2023/08/05 21:46:07 UTC
Re: August 5.0 Freeze (with waivers…) and a 5.0-alpha1
With no objections, and everything folk mentioned above in, the
cassandra-5.0 branch is cut.
Next steps are bumping trunk to 5.1 and then cutting a 5.0-alpha1
The bumping to 5.1 has a few steps involved in it, but the initial in-tree
PRs are ready for review, with CI being run, see CASSANDRA-18705
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 00:00, Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to everything stated here.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brandon
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:28 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The previous thread¹ on when to freeze 5.0 landed on freezing the first
> week of August, with a waiver in place for TCM and Accord to land later
> (but before October).
> >
> > With JDK8 now dropped and SAI and UCS merged, the only expected 5.0 work
> that hasn't landed is Vector search (CEP-30).
> >
> > Are there any objections to a waiver on Vector search? All the
> groundwork: SAI and the vector type; has been merged, with all remaining
> work expected to land in August.
> >
> > I'm keen to freeze and see us shift gears – there's already SO MUCH in
> 5.0 and a long list of flakies. It takes time and patience to triage and
> identify the bugs that hit us before GA. The freeze is about being "mostly
> feature complete", so we have room for things before our first beta
> (precedence is to ask). If we hope for a GA by December, account for the
> 6 weeks turnaround time for cutting and voting on one alpha, one beta, and
> one rc release, and the quiet period that August is, we really only have
> September and October left.
> >
> > I already feel this is asking a bit of a miracle from us given how 4.1
> went (and I'm hoping I will be proven wrong).
> >
> > In addition, are there any objections to cutting an 5.0-alpha1 release
> as soon as we freeze?
> >
> > This is on the understanding vector, tcm and accord will become
> available in later alphas. Originally the discussion¹ was waiting for
> Accord for alpha1, but a number of folk off-list have requested earlier
> alphas to help with testing.
> >
> >
> > ¹) https://lists.apache.org/thread/9c5cnn57c7oqw8wzo3zs0dkrm4f17lm3
>
Re: August 5.0 Freeze (with waivers…) and a 5.0-alpha1
Posted by Josh McKenzie <jm...@apache.org>.
Merge path for bugs on 3.0 is pretty brutal at this point. Good thing 2 will drop off when we GA 5.0.
Updated wiki w/new branches plus some examples: link <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Patching%2C+versioning%2C+and+LTS+releases>
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
>
> Forward merging cassandra-4.1 … cassandra-5.0 … trunk is now required !
>
> trunk is still got 5.0 in the build.xml, but that's only temporary until 18705 lands, and of no harm i believe… (i could easily be wrong, but not AFAIK)
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 13:38, Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is this intended to be used now and change the merge order? I ask
>> because 18705 mentions bumping build.xml and CHANGES.txt amongst
>> others that haven't been done which is leading to confusion.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brandon
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:46 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > With no objections, and everything folk mentioned above in, the cassandra-5.0 branch is cut.
>> >
>> > Next steps are bumping trunk to 5.1 and then cutting a 5.0-alpha1
>> >
>> > The bumping to 5.1 has a few steps involved in it, but the initial in-tree PRs are ready for review, with CI being run, see CASSANDRA-18705
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 00:00, Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 to everything stated here.
>> >>
>> >> Kind Regards,
>> >> Brandon
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:28 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The previous thread¹ on when to freeze 5.0 landed on freezing the first week of August, with a waiver in place for TCM and Accord to land later (but before October).
>> >> >
>> >> > With JDK8 now dropped and SAI and UCS merged, the only expected 5.0 work that hasn't landed is Vector search (CEP-30).
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there any objections to a waiver on Vector search? All the groundwork: SAI and the vector type; has been merged, with all remaining work expected to land in August.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm keen to freeze and see us shift gears – there's already SO MUCH in 5.0 and a long list of flakies. It takes time and patience to triage and identify the bugs that hit us before GA. The freeze is about being "mostly feature complete", so we have room for things before our first beta (precedence is to ask). If we hope for a GA by December, account for the 6 weeks turnaround time for cutting and voting on one alpha, one beta, and one rc release, and the quiet period that August is, we really only have September and October left.
>> >> >
>> >> > I already feel this is asking a bit of a miracle from us given how 4.1 went (and I'm hoping I will be proven wrong).
>> >> >
>> >> > In addition, are there any objections to cutting an 5.0-alpha1 release as soon as we freeze?
>> >> >
>> >> > This is on the understanding vector, tcm and accord will become available in later alphas. Originally the discussion¹ was waiting for Accord for alpha1, but a number of folk off-list have requested earlier alphas to help with testing.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ¹) https://lists.apache.org/thread/9c5cnn57c7oqw8wzo3zs0dkrm4f17lm3
Re: August 5.0 Freeze (with waivers…) and a 5.0-alpha1
Posted by Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org>.
Forward merging cassandra-4.1 … cassandra-5.0 … trunk is now required !
trunk is still got 5.0 in the build.xml, but that's only temporary until
18705 lands, and of no harm i believe… (i could easily be wrong, but not
AFAIK)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 13:38, Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this intended to be used now and change the merge order? I ask
> because 18705 mentions bumping build.xml and CHANGES.txt amongst
> others that haven't been done which is leading to confusion.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brandon
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:46 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > With no objections, and everything folk mentioned above in, the
> cassandra-5.0 branch is cut.
> >
> > Next steps are bumping trunk to 5.1 and then cutting a 5.0-alpha1
> >
> > The bumping to 5.1 has a few steps involved in it, but the initial
> in-tree PRs are ready for review, with CI being run, see CASSANDRA-18705
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 00:00, Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 to everything stated here.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Brandon
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:28 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The previous thread¹ on when to freeze 5.0 landed on freezing the
> first week of August, with a waiver in place for TCM and Accord to land
> later (but before October).
> >> >
> >> > With JDK8 now dropped and SAI and UCS merged, the only expected 5.0
> work that hasn't landed is Vector search (CEP-30).
> >> >
> >> > Are there any objections to a waiver on Vector search? All the
> groundwork: SAI and the vector type; has been merged, with all remaining
> work expected to land in August.
> >> >
> >> > I'm keen to freeze and see us shift gears – there's already SO MUCH
> in 5.0 and a long list of flakies. It takes time and patience to triage
> and identify the bugs that hit us before GA. The freeze is about being
> "mostly feature complete", so we have room for things before our first
> beta (precedence is to ask). If we hope for a GA by December, account for
> the 6 weeks turnaround time for cutting and voting on one alpha, one beta,
> and one rc release, and the quiet period that August is, we really only
> have September and October left.
> >> >
> >> > I already feel this is asking a bit of a miracle from us given how
> 4.1 went (and I'm hoping I will be proven wrong).
> >> >
> >> > In addition, are there any objections to cutting an 5.0-alpha1
> release as soon as we freeze?
> >> >
> >> > This is on the understanding vector, tcm and accord will become
> available in later alphas. Originally the discussion¹ was waiting for
> Accord for alpha1, but a number of folk off-list have requested earlier
> alphas to help with testing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ¹) https://lists.apache.org/thread/9c5cnn57c7oqw8wzo3zs0dkrm4f17lm3
>
Re: August 5.0 Freeze (with waivers…) and a 5.0-alpha1
Posted by Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com>.
Is this intended to be used now and change the merge order? I ask
because 18705 mentions bumping build.xml and CHANGES.txt amongst
others that haven't been done which is leading to confusion.
Kind Regards,
Brandon
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:46 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> With no objections, and everything folk mentioned above in, the cassandra-5.0 branch is cut.
>
> Next steps are bumping trunk to 5.1 and then cutting a 5.0-alpha1
>
> The bumping to 5.1 has a few steps involved in it, but the initial in-tree PRs are ready for review, with CI being run, see CASSANDRA-18705
>
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 00:00, Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to everything stated here.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brandon
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:28 PM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > The previous thread¹ on when to freeze 5.0 landed on freezing the first week of August, with a waiver in place for TCM and Accord to land later (but before October).
>> >
>> > With JDK8 now dropped and SAI and UCS merged, the only expected 5.0 work that hasn't landed is Vector search (CEP-30).
>> >
>> > Are there any objections to a waiver on Vector search? All the groundwork: SAI and the vector type; has been merged, with all remaining work expected to land in August.
>> >
>> > I'm keen to freeze and see us shift gears – there's already SO MUCH in 5.0 and a long list of flakies. It takes time and patience to triage and identify the bugs that hit us before GA. The freeze is about being "mostly feature complete", so we have room for things before our first beta (precedence is to ask). If we hope for a GA by December, account for the 6 weeks turnaround time for cutting and voting on one alpha, one beta, and one rc release, and the quiet period that August is, we really only have September and October left.
>> >
>> > I already feel this is asking a bit of a miracle from us given how 4.1 went (and I'm hoping I will be proven wrong).
>> >
>> > In addition, are there any objections to cutting an 5.0-alpha1 release as soon as we freeze?
>> >
>> > This is on the understanding vector, tcm and accord will become available in later alphas. Originally the discussion¹ was waiting for Accord for alpha1, but a number of folk off-list have requested earlier alphas to help with testing.
>> >
>> >
>> > ¹) https://lists.apache.org/thread/9c5cnn57c7oqw8wzo3zs0dkrm4f17lm3