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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Justin Rowles <JR...@ordsvy.gov.uk> on 2001/12/18 17:59:30 UTC

[Offtopic] RE: JDBC Driver for MS SQL Server

> I certainly agree on this opinion!  I got bloody knuckles from the MS
> driver (really just OEM'd from Merant before they spun off).  bigint
> didn't work at all right out of the gate.  How many other bugs are
> lurking if such an obvious one made it through the "extensive" QA
> process?

According to the current /. [slashdot.org] front page, a member of Al-Qaeda
is claiming that MS was infiltrated and that there are deliberate bugs and
trapdoors in XP.  Microsoft says that the their "extensive QA process"
hasn't picked up anything.

Open source is safer for your critical applications.  Apache, Tomcat, GNU et
al are great.

J.
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RE: [Offtopic] RE: JDBC Driver for MS SQL Server

Posted by Rama <ru...@yahoo.com>.
tired of this kind of argument.
get a life!!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darth Darknerd [mailto:darknerd@realmspace.com] 
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 3:29 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: [Offtopic] RE: JDBC Driver for MS SQL Server
> 
> 
> I wouldn't know about "extensive QA process" or the terrorist thing.  
> Microsoft ships with thousands of known bugs, and even QA 
> still misses 
> some huge bugs, and also security type issues are just not 
> addressed in QA.
>   (This coming from previous experience working for QA at 
> Microsoft in 
> Cupertino).
> 
> What's really scary is that Microsoft deviates from the basic concept 
> around web technologies where the client SHOULD NOT ACCESS 
> the hard drive 
> or the local client period!!! Exception being these cookies, 
> which have 
> been exploited previously.  Just a week or so ago, my machine 
> was infected 
> by the MINDA virus, and all I did was browse the net, albeit 
> with IE and 
> going to an infected IIS server.
> 
> There motto should be...
> 
>     ... Microsoft: Making it Easier (for Terrorists and Virus 
> Writers!!)
> 
> Hat's off to open source!!!  Open Source community is concerned for 
> security, while Microsoft's priorities are obviously not.
> 
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 08:59  AM, Justin Rowles wrote:
> 
> >> I certainly agree on this opinion!  I got bloody knuckles 
> from the MS
> >> driver (really just OEM'd from Merant before they spun 
> off).  bigint
> >> didn't work at all right out of the gate.  How many other bugs are
> >> lurking if such an obvious one made it through the "extensive" QA
> >> process?
> >
> > According to the current /. [slashdot.org] front page, a member of 
> > Al-Qaeda
> > is claiming that MS was infiltrated and that there are 
> deliberate bugs and
> > trapdoors in XP.  Microsoft says that the their "extensive 
> QA process"
> > hasn't picked up anything.
> >
> > Open source is safer for your critical applications.  
> Apache, Tomcat, GNU 
> > et
> > al are great.
> >
> > J.
> > This message was brought to you by Fear, Uncertainty and Dubya.
> > --
> > You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
> >



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Re: [Offtopic] RE: JDBC Driver for MS SQL Server

Posted by Darth Darknerd <da...@realmspace.com>.
I wouldn't know about "extensive QA process" or the terrorist thing.  
Microsoft ships with thousands of known bugs, and even QA still misses 
some huge bugs, and also security type issues are just not addressed in QA.
  (This coming from previous experience working for QA at Microsoft in 
Cupertino).

What's really scary is that Microsoft deviates from the basic concept 
around web technologies where the client SHOULD NOT ACCESS the hard drive 
or the local client period!!! Exception being these cookies, which have 
been exploited previously.  Just a week or so ago, my machine was infected 
by the MINDA virus, and all I did was browse the net, albeit with IE and 
going to an infected IIS server.

There motto should be...

    ... Microsoft: Making it Easier (for Terrorists and Virus Writers!!)

Hat's off to open source!!!  Open Source community is concerned for 
security, while Microsoft's priorities are obviously not.

On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 08:59  AM, Justin Rowles wrote:

>> I certainly agree on this opinion!  I got bloody knuckles from the MS
>> driver (really just OEM'd from Merant before they spun off).  bigint
>> didn't work at all right out of the gate.  How many other bugs are
>> lurking if such an obvious one made it through the "extensive" QA
>> process?
>
> According to the current /. [slashdot.org] front page, a member of 
> Al-Qaeda
> is claiming that MS was infiltrated and that there are deliberate bugs and
> trapdoors in XP.  Microsoft says that the their "extensive QA process"
> hasn't picked up anything.
>
> Open source is safer for your critical applications.  Apache, Tomcat, GNU 
> et
> al are great.
>
> J.
> This message was brought to you by Fear, Uncertainty and Dubya.
> --
> You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
>
>
>
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