Fwd: J2EE on Mac

[Mighty Tornado <mi...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

I installed Tomcat on my mac OS X and it's running. I also have Eclipse
Europa. Now I don't think I have J2EE installed - How do I do it?
I went to Sun's website and it gave me an archive with GlassFish which I
don't need.
Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest J2EE for Mac?
What I need to do to compile servlets with it in Eclipse?

Thank you.

Re: Fwd: J2EE on Mac

[Edoardo Panfili <ed...@aspix.it>]

Mighty Tornado ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed Tomcat on my mac OS X and it's running. I also have Eclipse
> Europa. Now I don't think I have J2EE installed - How do I do it?
You can download different eclipse packages, "Eclipse IDE for Java EE 
Developers" is more comfortable.


> I went to Sun's website and it gave me an archive with GlassFish which I
> don't need.
> Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest J2EE for Mac?
Seems also to me that is necessary to download all the bundle. You can 
download it and don't use glassfish.


> What I need to do to compile servlets with it in Eclipse?
You don't need J2EE to develope servelts undex OS X, simply insert (in 
any way, IE: right-click on you project, select properties, in java 
build path, libraries) jsp-api.jar and servlet-api.jat that you can find 
in lib folder inside tomcat installation.

If you are building a new project, I think you can use "Dynamic Web 
Project" in "Web" Category.

> Thank you.
> 



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Re: Fwd: J2EE on Mac

[Edoardo Panfili <ed...@aspix.it>]

Mighty Tornado ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed Tomcat on my mac OS X and it's running. I also have Eclipse
> Europa. Now I don't think I have J2EE installed - How do I do it?
You can download different eclipse packages, "Eclipse IDE for Java EE 
Developers" is more comfortable.


> I went to Sun's website and it gave me an archive with GlassFish which I
> don't need.
> Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest J2EE for Mac?
Seems also to me that is necessary to download all the bundle. You can 
download it and don't use glassfish.


> What I need to do to compile servlets with it in Eclipse?
You don't need J2EE to develope servelts undex OS X, simply insert (in 
any way, IE: right-click on you project, select properties, in java 
build path, libraries) jsp-api.jar and servlet-api.jat that you can find 
in lib folder inside tomcat installation.

If you are building a new project, I think you can use "Dynamic Web 
Project" in "Web" Category.

Edoardo


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Re: J2EE on Mac

[Alan Chaney <al...@compulsivecreative.com>]

Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

> 
> That was already specified: the OP wants to compile servlets; nothing beyond a JDK is needed.
> 
>  - Chuck
Everything said about J2EE, classpaths etc is perfectly correct.

However, the other thing the OP said was that they want to use Eclipse 
on a Mac. To build web applications with eclipse the best thing to do is 
to install the appropriate web development add-ons - we use the Web 
Standard Tools (WST) options.

This is best installed using the software updates option within Eclipse. 
After having done that and configured a local tomcat installation as a 
'Server' within Eclipse you are, as they say, "good to go" and all you 
need to do is to select a new Dynamic Web Project when creating a new 
project.

Eclipse then takes care of all the library and classpath issues.

There is no need to download or install anything other than a binary 
tomcat, eclipse and then, within that, eclipse WST (or the combined 
package in the first place.)

Let me just add that the above is an abridged summary to try to get the 
OP on the right path, not to start a long flame about the advantages and 
disadvantages of eclipse!

Regards

Alan Chaney




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RE: J2EE on Mac

["Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>]

> From: NBW [mailto:emailnbw@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: J2EE on Mac
>
> The statement "installing JEE usually causes problems"
> implies JEE is something apart from Tomcat that doesn't
> play well with it.

There's no such implication; unfortunately, new users of any J2EE pieces have this annoying habit of putting the J2EE jars in inappropriate places, such as global CLASSPATH or Tomcat's lib directory - that will cause problems.  The OP is obviously inexperienced in the area, and adding the full J2EE libraries (or even any J2EE components beyond what Tomcat supplies) to his/her particular mix is not necessary to achieve the stated goals.

> The question for the OP is how much of the J2EE stack do you
> want/need?

That was already specified: the OP wants to compile servlets; nothing beyond a JDK is needed.

 - Chuck


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Re: J2EE on Mac

[NBW <em...@gmail.com>]

Tomcat is not J2EE, and Glassfish is not J2EE. J2EE is a set of specs.
Tomcat contains implementations of some of them. Glassfish happens to bundle
implementation of all of them. Tomcat provides a piece of the EE stack,
installing the Glassfish application server bundle will you get one
implementation of the entire stack. The statement "installing JEE usually
causes problems" implies JEE is something apart from Tomcat that doesn't
play well with it. That's wrong. You can install other J2EE pieces along
side Tomcat just fine and they don't have to be from Glassfish. For example
you can install JMS from ActiveMQ and get your JMS piece of the EE stack
from them.  What you are really trying to say is that installing other
Servlet implementations along side Tomcat's can cause problems. Even that
statement is incorrect. I run Tomcat along side a full Glassfish install
just fine, you just have to point to the libraries you want to use (Tomcat's
or Glassfish's servlet API for example) on a per project basis depending on
where your project is going to be deployed.

The question for the OP is how much of the J2EE stack do you want/need?

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Caldarale, Charles R <
Chuck.Caldarale@unisys.com> wrote:

> > From: Mighty Tornado [mailto:mighty.tornado@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Fwd: J2EE on Mac
> >
> > Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest
> > J2EE for Mac?
>
> You do not need or want J2EE in order to compile servlets (and JSPs); the
> regular JDK is enough.
>
> Since you state Tomcat is already running, you must have at least a JRE
> installed already, and most likely a full JDK.  If you can run javac, you're
> ready - nothing more is needed.
>
> Installing the JEE usually causes problems, due to conflicts with libraries
> already supplied by Tomcat.
>
>  - Chuck
>
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RE: J2EE on Mac

["Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>]

> From: Mighty Tornado [mailto:mighty.tornado@gmail.com]
> Subject: Fwd: J2EE on Mac
>
> Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest
> J2EE for Mac?

You do not need or want J2EE in order to compile servlets (and JSPs); the regular JDK is enough.

Since you state Tomcat is already running, you must have at least a JRE installed already, and most likely a full JDK.  If you can run javac, you're ready - nothing more is needed.

Installing the JEE usually causes problems, due to conflicts with libraries already supplied by Tomcat.

 - Chuck


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Re: Fwd: J2EE on Mac

[Alan Chaney <al...@compulsivecreative.com>]

Mighty Tornado wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed Tomcat on my mac OS X and it's running. I also have Eclipse
> Europa. Now I don't think I have J2EE installed - How do I do it?
> I went to Sun's website and it gave me an archive with GlassFish which I
> don't need.
> Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest J2EE for Mac?
> What I need to do to compile servlets with it in Eclipse?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> !DSPAM:49a24c91167621527717022!
>
>   
Dear Mighty,

Re-reading your email again, you say that you installed Europa. AFAIK 
Europa comes with WTP installed. All you need to do is to download a 
tomcat release, configure that as a Server and then create a Dynamic Web 
Project. See the tutorials in the eclipse help. Works for Mac, PC, 
Linux, Solaris.

Regards

Alan Chaney

( a long time eclipse user with a major love-hate relationship with eclipse)

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Re: J2EE on Mac

[NBW <em...@gmail.com>]

A system wide CLASSPATH is a bad idea to begin with. Keep you classpath
scoped to you application/application server and you will never have this
issue.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> as chuck mentioned you have 2 different environments that deploy web
> archives
> If you absolutely positively need GF (which I do) then keep it on a
> separate drive and do NOT
> place common servlet*.jar on system classpath
>
> you want to avoid GF and TC contending for the same
> resource(servlet<-api>.jar..
> (a tug of war where neither side will win)
>
> Martin
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> > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:05:59 -0500
> > Subject: Fwd: J2EE on Mac
> > From: mighty.tornado@gmail.com
> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I installed Tomcat on my mac OS X and it's running. I also have Eclipse
> > Europa. Now I don't think I have J2EE installed - How do I do it?
> > I went to Sun's website and it gave me an archive with GlassFish which I
> > don't need.
> > Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest J2EE for Mac?
> > What I need to do to compile servlets with it in Eclipse?
> >
> > Thank you.
>
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RE: J2EE on Mac

[Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>]

as chuck mentioned you have 2 different environments that deploy web archives
If you absolutely positively need GF (which I do) then keep it on a separate drive and do NOT
place common servlet*.jar on system classpath

you want to avoid GF and TC contending for the same resource(servlet<-api>.jar..
(a tug of war where neither side will win)

Martin 
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> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:05:59 -0500
> Subject: Fwd: J2EE on Mac
> From: mighty.tornado@gmail.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I installed Tomcat on my mac OS X and it's running. I also have Eclipse
> Europa. Now I don't think I have J2EE installed - How do I do it?
> I went to Sun's website and it gave me an archive with GlassFish which I
> don't need.
> Can somebody please tell me where I can download the latest J2EE for Mac?
> What I need to do to compile servlets with it in Eclipse?
> 
> Thank you.

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