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Posted to users@tomee.apache.org by COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com> on 2017/03/03 13:49:39 UTC
RE: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported
clarification
Hello Romain,
Focusing on Active MQ future. Active MQ 6.0 was Appolo project (http://activemq.apache.org/new-features-in-60.html) but this one has been unofficially declared dead in July 2015. Then it seems that Artemis could become the next version of Active MQ.
So the future of the underlying JMS TomEE stuff is unclear :-(
Best Regards.
-----Original Message-----
From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:35
To: COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
Cc: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
2017-03-03 14:26 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>:
> Hello Romain,
>
>
>
> What are the JMS 2 features not supported in TomEE 7.x version ?
>
Few advanced programmatic API we can't access that easily but most of it should work.
> It seems that the successor of ActiveMQ is ActiveMQ Artemis: do you
> plan to integrate this version in TomEE ?
>
>
>
Was ActiveMQ 5-next, now it is ActiveMQ 6. Think when Fuse got bought by redhat Artemis got kind of abandonned even if not sure.
> Best Regards.
>
>
>
> *From:* Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:12
> *To:* COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
> *Cc:* users@tomee.apache.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
> com>:
>
> Hello,
>
> First, thanks for your feedbacks :-)
>
> Summary for the Full profile compliancy:
> - JMS 2 not implemented in ActiveMQ 5.x, right ? Do you know
> when JMS 2.0 should be implemented in ActiveMQ and in which version ?
>
>
>
> in AMQ 5 no but in TomEE we wrapped it to support several features
> like JMSContext for instance, AMQ5 will never get it, AMQ 6 has it but
> has few link with AMQ 5 (it is another project).
>
>
>
> - JPA 2.1 not implemented by Open JPA in webprofile and plus
> TomEE flavors but is implemented in Plume flavor thanks to EclipseLink
> 6.3, right ?
>
>
>
> Don't think we use 6.3 but answering from memory but it is 2.1 yes
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:29
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>
> Hi
>
> that's a bit more complicated
>
> - certification: implies legal process with oracle, we are not there
> - EE 7 "compliance"/"support": think except JPA 2.1 with openjpa
> distributions we target most of it - with some exceptions on JMS 2
> with ActiveMQ 5.
>
>
> To answer the original questions both spec s are in tomee plus and
> concurrency utilities is in web profile too (cause used internally for
> EJB @Asynchronous to make it simple). I'm not sure the point about
> websocket which is in all version since tomcat has it.
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog <
> https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog <
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
> <https://github.com/rmannibucau>
> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | JavaEE Factory
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>
>
> 2017-03-03 13:19 GMT+01:00 Danilo Cominotti Marques
> <dcominottim@gmail.com
> >:
>
> > From what I understand, it is only OpenJPA (which is not JPA 2.1
> > compliant yet, but rather 2.0) that is holding back the Java EE 7
> > compliance. The OpenJPA 3.x series should fix that.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Yann Blazart
> > <ya...@bycode.fr>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > TomEE is not certified, but it's a full EE! More than weblogic
> > > 12.2.1, trust me :)
> > >
> > > I imagine that certification process is complicated or cost a much.
> > >
> > > Le 3 mars 2017 12:45 PM, "COURTAULT Francois" <
> > > Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com> a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > If I refer to http://tomee.apache.org/comparison.html , it seems
> > > > that, for TomEE 7.x, JBatch and Concurrency Utilities for EE are
> > > > available
> > even
> > > > if those specifications aren't included in the Java EE Web
> > > > Profile,
> > > right ?
> > > >
> > > > * JBatch is available in TomEE Plus, right ?
> > > >
> > > > * Concurrency Utilities for EE is available in TomEE web
> > profile,
> > > > right ?
> > > >
> > > > In such case, we could say that TomEE Plus is more or less Java
> > > > EE full profile compliant. As web socket in included in Tomcat,
> > > > what are the missing specifications in TomEE Plus which prevent
> > > > this version to not
> > be
> > > > Full profile compliant ?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards.
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Re: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Ok just checked, artemis is the "next" one yes. We'll likely integrate with
it. If possible I'd - I as "me only" - like to be able to plug it
optionally for now to keep AMQ 5 advanced features compat.
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
<https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog
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2017-03-03 14:49 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>:
> Hello Romain,
>
> Focusing on Active MQ future. Active MQ 6.0 was Appolo project (
> http://activemq.apache.org/new-features-in-60.html) but this one has been
> unofficially declared dead in July 2015. Then it seems that Artemis could
> become the next version of Active MQ.
> So the future of the underlying JMS TomEE stuff is unclear :-(
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:35
> To: COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
> Cc: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported
> clarification
>
> 2017-03-03 14:26 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
> Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>:
>
> > Hello Romain,
> >
> >
> >
> > What are the JMS 2 features not supported in TomEE 7.x version ?
> >
>
> Few advanced programmatic API we can't access that easily but most of it
> should work.
>
>
> > It seems that the successor of ActiveMQ is ActiveMQ Artemis: do you
> > plan to integrate this version in TomEE ?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Was ActiveMQ 5-next, now it is ActiveMQ 6. Think when Fuse got bought by
> redhat Artemis got kind of abandonned even if not sure.
>
>
> > Best Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:12
> > *To:* COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
> > *Cc:* users@tomee.apache.org
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois
> <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
> > com>:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > First, thanks for your feedbacks :-)
> >
> > Summary for the Full profile compliancy:
> > - JMS 2 not implemented in ActiveMQ 5.x, right ? Do you know
> > when JMS 2.0 should be implemented in ActiveMQ and in which version ?
> >
> >
> >
> > in AMQ 5 no but in TomEE we wrapped it to support several features
> > like JMSContext for instance, AMQ5 will never get it, AMQ 6 has it but
> > has few link with AMQ 5 (it is another project).
> >
> >
> >
> > - JPA 2.1 not implemented by Open JPA in webprofile and plus
> > TomEE flavors but is implemented in Plume flavor thanks to EclipseLink
> > 6.3, right ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't think we use 6.3 but answering from memory but it is 2.1 yes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> > Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:29
> > To: users@tomee.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > that's a bit more complicated
> >
> > - certification: implies legal process with oracle, we are not there
> > - EE 7 "compliance"/"support": think except JPA 2.1 with openjpa
> > distributions we target most of it - with some exceptions on JMS 2
> > with ActiveMQ 5.
> >
> >
> > To answer the original questions both spec s are in tomee plus and
> > concurrency utilities is in web profile too (cause used internally for
> > EJB @Asynchronous to make it simple). I'm not sure the point about
> > websocket which is in all version since tomcat has it.
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog <
> > https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog <
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
> > <https://github.com/rmannibucau>
> > | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | JavaEE Factory
> > | <
> > https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
> >
> >
> > 2017-03-03 13:19 GMT+01:00 Danilo Cominotti Marques
> > <dcominottim@gmail.com
> > >:
> >
> > > From what I understand, it is only OpenJPA (which is not JPA 2.1
> > > compliant yet, but rather 2.0) that is holding back the Java EE 7
> > > compliance. The OpenJPA 3.x series should fix that.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Yann Blazart
> > > <ya...@bycode.fr>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello.
> > > >
> > > > TomEE is not certified, but it's a full EE! More than weblogic
> > > > 12.2.1, trust me :)
> > > >
> > > > I imagine that certification process is complicated or cost a much.
> > > >
> > > > Le 3 mars 2017 12:45 PM, "COURTAULT Francois" <
> > > > Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > If I refer to http://tomee.apache.org/comparison.html , it seems
> > > > > that, for TomEE 7.x, JBatch and Concurrency Utilities for EE are
> > > > > available
> > > even
> > > > > if those specifications aren't included in the Java EE Web
> > > > > Profile,
> > > > right ?
> > > > >
> > > > > * JBatch is available in TomEE Plus, right ?
> > > > >
> > > > > * Concurrency Utilities for EE is available in TomEE web
> > > profile,
> > > > > right ?
> > > > >
> > > > > In such case, we could say that TomEE Plus is more or less Java
> > > > > EE full profile compliant. As web socket in included in Tomcat,
> > > > > what are the missing specifications in TomEE Plus which prevent
> > > > > this version to not
> > > be
> > > > > Full profile compliant ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards.
> > > > > ________________________________ This message and any
> > > > > attachments are intended solely for the addressees and may
> > > > > contain confidential information. Any unauthorized use or
> > > > > disclosure, either whole or partial, is
> > prohibited.
> > > > > E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Our company shall not be
> > > > > liable
> > > > for
> > > > > the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the
> > > intended
> > > > > recipient of this message, please delete it and notify the sender.
> > > > > Although all reasonable efforts have been made to keep this
> > > transmission
> > > > > free from viruses, the sender will not be liable for damages
> > > > > caused by
> > > a
> > > > > transmitted virus.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > ________________________________
> > This message and any attachments are intended solely for the
> > addressees and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized
> > use or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited.
> > E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Our company shall not be liable
> > for the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the
> > intended recipient of this message, please delete it and notify the
> sender.
> > Although all reasonable efforts have been made to keep this
> > transmission free from viruses, the sender will not be liable for
> > damages caused by a transmitted virus.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > This message and any attachments are intended solely for the
> > addressees and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized
> > use or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited.
> > E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Our company shall not be liable
> > for the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the
> > intended recipient of this message, please delete it and notify the
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> > Although all reasonable efforts have been made to keep this
> > transmission free from viruses, the sender will not be liable for
> > damages caused by a transmitted virus.
> >
> ________________________________
> This message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressees
> and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized use or
> disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited.
> E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Our company shall not be liable for
> the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the intended
> recipient of this message, please delete it and notify the sender.
> Although all reasonable efforts have been made to keep this transmission
> free from viruses, the sender will not be liable for damages caused by a
> transmitted virus.
>
Re: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
I agree, it would be great to make this easier. We discussed adding a
command to the Artemis CLI on the ActiveMQ list yesterday, but if there is
no active development on the ActiveMQ that TomEE is currently using, and
presumably its unlikely to see much development in the future, we should
figure out how we're going to migrate to Artemis. Java EE 8 is coming up,
and presumably we'll have a EE 7 maintenance branch and master will be EE 8
- maybe that is the time to change over?
I am happy to look at the Artemis CLI as discussed yesterday, but if the
TomEE community decides to switch over, that might render that work
unnecessary. If the community thinks switching to Artemis is worthwhile,
I'm happy to help hack on that.
Jon
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There's no other active development (new stuff) on ActiveMQ land other
> than ActiveMQ Artemis.
>
>
>
> Regardless... It is proving to be a strong broker.. I think you guys
> would only gain by supporting it...
>
> And we would welcome interaction.
>
>
> This thread is a few months old.. so it's probably moot what I'm
> saying here.. (I even saw a PR sent yesterday by Jonathan Gallimore..
>
>
> I'm looking to make it easier for Tomee users to use Artemis. There's
> a blog on how to do it.. but it seemed complex (even for me.. I can do
> maybe once.. not always). maybe automate the process through a command
> in Artemis? have it pre-integrated in Tomee? I'm not sure what are the
> options.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, COURTAULT Francois
> <Fr...@gemalto.com> wrote:
> > Hello Romain,
> >
> > Focusing on Active MQ future. Active MQ 6.0 was Appolo project (
> http://activemq.apache.org/new-features-in-60.html) but this one has been
> unofficially declared dead in July 2015. Then it seems that Artemis could
> become the next version of Active MQ.
> > So the future of the underlying JMS TomEE stuff is unclear :-(
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> > Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:35
> > To: COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
> > Cc: users@tomee.apache.org
> > Subject: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported
> clarification
> >
> > 2017-03-03 14:26 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
> > Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>:
> >
> >> Hello Romain,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What are the JMS 2 features not supported in TomEE 7.x version ?
> >>
> >
> > Few advanced programmatic API we can't access that easily but most of it
> should work.
> >
> >
> >> It seems that the successor of ActiveMQ is ActiveMQ Artemis: do you
> >> plan to integrate this version in TomEE ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Was ActiveMQ 5-next, now it is ActiveMQ 6. Think when Fuse got bought by
> redhat Artemis got kind of abandonned even if not sure.
> >
> >
> >> Best Regards.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> >> *Sent:* vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:12
> >> *To:* COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
> >> *Cc:* users@tomee.apache.org
> >>
> >> *Subject:* Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois
> <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
> >> com>:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> First, thanks for your feedbacks :-)
> >>
> >> Summary for the Full profile compliancy:
> >> - JMS 2 not implemented in ActiveMQ 5.x, right ? Do you know
> >> when JMS 2.0 should be implemented in ActiveMQ and in which version ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> in AMQ 5 no but in TomEE we wrapped it to support several features
> >> like JMSContext for instance, AMQ5 will never get it, AMQ 6 has it but
> >> has few link with AMQ 5 (it is another project).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - JPA 2.1 not implemented by Open JPA in webprofile and plus
> >> TomEE flavors but is implemented in Plume flavor thanks to EclipseLink
> >> 6.3, right ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't think we use 6.3 but answering from memory but it is 2.1 yes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:29
> >> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> that's a bit more complicated
> >>
> >> - certification: implies legal process with oracle, we are not there
> >> - EE 7 "compliance"/"support": think except JPA 2.1 with openjpa
> >> distributions we target most of it - with some exceptions on JMS 2
> >> with ActiveMQ 5.
> >>
> >>
> >> To answer the original questions both spec s are in tomee plus and
> >> concurrency utilities is in web profile too (cause used internally for
> >> EJB @Asynchronous to make it simple). I'm not sure the point about
> >> websocket which is in all version since tomcat has it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog <
> >> https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog <
> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
> >> <https://github.com/rmannibucau>
> >> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | JavaEE Factory
> >> | <
> >> https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-03-03 13:19 GMT+01:00 Danilo Cominotti Marques
> >> <dcominottim@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >>
> >> > From what I understand, it is only OpenJPA (which is not JPA 2.1
> >> > compliant yet, but rather 2.0) that is holding back the Java EE 7
> >> > compliance. The OpenJPA 3.x series should fix that.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Yann Blazart
> >> > <ya...@bycode.fr>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hello.
> >> > >
> >> > > TomEE is not certified, but it's a full EE! More than weblogic
> >> > > 12.2.1, trust me :)
> >> > >
> >> > > I imagine that certification process is complicated or cost a much.
> >> > >
> >> > > Le 3 mars 2017 12:45 PM, "COURTAULT Francois" <
> >> > > Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com> a écrit :
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hello,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If I refer to http://tomee.apache.org/comparison.html , it seems
> >> > > > that, for TomEE 7.x, JBatch and Concurrency Utilities for EE are
> >> > > > available
> >> > even
> >> > > > if those specifications aren't included in the Java EE Web
> >> > > > Profile,
> >> > > right ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * JBatch is available in TomEE Plus, right ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Concurrency Utilities for EE is available in TomEE web
> >> > profile,
> >> > > > right ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > In such case, we could say that TomEE Plus is more or less Java
> >> > > > EE full profile compliant. As web socket in included in Tomcat,
> >> > > > what are the missing specifications in TomEE Plus which prevent
> >> > > > this version to not
> >> > be
> >> > > > Full profile compliant ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best Regards.
> >> > > > ________________________________ This message and any
> >> > > > attachments are intended solely for the addressees and may
> >> > > > contain confidential information. Any unauthorized use or
> >> > > > disclosure, either whole or partial, is
> >> prohibited.
> >> > > > E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Our company shall not be
> >> > > > liable
> >> > > for
> >> > > > the message if altered, changed or falsified. If you are not the
> >> > intended
> >> > > > recipient of this message, please delete it and notify the sender.
> >> > > > Although all reasonable efforts have been made to keep this
> >> > transmission
> >> > > > free from viruses, the sender will not be liable for damages
> >> > > > caused by
> >> > a
> >> > > > transmitted virus.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> This message and any attachments are intended solely for the
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Re: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
Posted by Clebert Suconic <cl...@gmail.com>.
There's no other active development (new stuff) on ActiveMQ land other
than ActiveMQ Artemis.
Regardless... It is proving to be a strong broker.. I think you guys
would only gain by supporting it...
And we would welcome interaction.
This thread is a few months old.. so it's probably moot what I'm
saying here.. (I even saw a PR sent yesterday by Jonathan Gallimore..
I'm looking to make it easier for Tomee users to use Artemis. There's
a blog on how to do it.. but it seemed complex (even for me.. I can do
maybe once.. not always). maybe automate the process through a command
in Artemis? have it pre-integrated in Tomee? I'm not sure what are the
options.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, COURTAULT Francois
<Fr...@gemalto.com> wrote:
> Hello Romain,
>
> Focusing on Active MQ future. Active MQ 6.0 was Appolo project (http://activemq.apache.org/new-features-in-60.html) but this one has been unofficially declared dead in July 2015. Then it seems that Artemis could become the next version of Active MQ.
> So the future of the underlying JMS TomEE stuff is unclear :-(
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:35
> To: COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
> Cc: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: [+SPAM+]: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>
> 2017-03-03 14:26 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <
> Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com>:
>
>> Hello Romain,
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the JMS 2 features not supported in TomEE 7.x version ?
>>
>
> Few advanced programmatic API we can't access that easily but most of it should work.
>
>
>> It seems that the successor of ActiveMQ is ActiveMQ Artemis: do you
>> plan to integrate this version in TomEE ?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Was ActiveMQ 5-next, now it is ActiveMQ 6. Think when Fuse got bought by redhat Artemis got kind of abandonned even if not sure.
>
>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* vendredi 3 mars 2017 14:12
>> *To:* COURTAULT Francois <Fr...@gemalto.com>
>> *Cc:* users@tomee.apache.org
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
>> com>:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> First, thanks for your feedbacks :-)
>>
>> Summary for the Full profile compliancy:
>> - JMS 2 not implemented in ActiveMQ 5.x, right ? Do you know
>> when JMS 2.0 should be implemented in ActiveMQ and in which version ?
>>
>>
>>
>> in AMQ 5 no but in TomEE we wrapped it to support several features
>> like JMSContext for instance, AMQ5 will never get it, AMQ 6 has it but
>> has few link with AMQ 5 (it is another project).
>>
>>
>>
>> - JPA 2.1 not implemented by Open JPA in webprofile and plus
>> TomEE flavors but is implemented in Plume flavor thanks to EclipseLink
>> 6.3, right ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't think we use 6.3 but answering from memory but it is 2.1 yes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
>> Sent: vendredi 3 mars 2017 13:29
>> To: users@tomee.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: About TomEE 7.x specification supported clarification
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> that's a bit more complicated
>>
>> - certification: implies legal process with oracle, we are not there
>> - EE 7 "compliance"/"support": think except JPA 2.1 with openjpa
>> distributions we target most of it - with some exceptions on JMS 2
>> with ActiveMQ 5.
>>
>>
>> To answer the original questions both spec s are in tomee plus and
>> concurrency utilities is in web profile too (cause used internally for
>> EJB @Asynchronous to make it simple). I'm not sure the point about
>> websocket which is in all version since tomcat has it.
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>
>>
>> 2017-03-03 13:19 GMT+01:00 Danilo Cominotti Marques
>> <dcominottim@gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>> > From what I understand, it is only OpenJPA (which is not JPA 2.1
>> > compliant yet, but rather 2.0) that is holding back the Java EE 7
>> > compliance. The OpenJPA 3.x series should fix that.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Yann Blazart
>> > <ya...@bycode.fr>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello.
>> > >
>> > > TomEE is not certified, but it's a full EE! More than weblogic
>> > > 12.2.1, trust me :)
>> > >
>> > > I imagine that certification process is complicated or cost a much.
>> > >
>> > > Le 3 mars 2017 12:45 PM, "COURTAULT Francois" <
>> > > Francois.Courtault@gemalto.com> a écrit :
>> > >
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > >
>> > > > If I refer to http://tomee.apache.org/comparison.html , it seems
>> > > > that, for TomEE 7.x, JBatch and Concurrency Utilities for EE are
>> > > > available
>> > even
>> > > > if those specifications aren't included in the Java EE Web
>> > > > Profile,
>> > > right ?
>> > > >
>> > > > * JBatch is available in TomEE Plus, right ?
>> > > >
>> > > > * Concurrency Utilities for EE is available in TomEE web
>> > profile,
>> > > > right ?
>> > > >
>> > > > In such case, we could say that TomEE Plus is more or less Java
>> > > > EE full profile compliant. As web socket in included in Tomcat,
>> > > > what are the missing specifications in TomEE Plus which prevent
>> > > > this version to not
>> > be
>> > > > Full profile compliant ?
>> > > >
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