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Posted to dev@karaf.apache.org by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> on 2015/12/01 16:39:04 UTC
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Hi guys,
I updated the website proposal:
http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
(don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
sliders, etc.
Now, I'm working on:
1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
samples embedded in the distribution
Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments (on
IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
Thanks,
Regards
JB
On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>
> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>
> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>
> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
> the following plan:
>
> 1. More professional website
> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
> website.
> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
> platform.
> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>
> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>
> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>
> 2. New guides/documentation
> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
> recipes for users.
> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
> on the Decanter guide:
>
> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>
> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
> such look'n feel.
>
> 3. Meetups
> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
> enthusiasts.
> I will give you more details soon.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Andrea,
user guide is already done, and I'm working on the complete refactoring
of the dev guide (with samples in the distro). Maybe you can help me
there (sample).
Regards
JB
On 12/01/2015 07:02 PM, Andrea Cosentino wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> Looks great!
>
> Nice. Let me know if you need help migrating the documentation.
>
> Thank you.
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Andrea Cosentino <an...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi JB,
Looks great!
Nice. Let me know if you need help migrating the documentation.
Thank you.
--
Andrea Cosentino
---------------------------------
Apache Camel PMC Member
Email: ancosen1985@yahoo.com
Twitter: @oscerd2
Github: oscerd
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 4:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
I updated the website proposal:
http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
(don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
sliders, etc.
Now, I'm working on:
1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
samples embedded in the distribution
Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments (on
IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
Thanks,
Regards
JB
On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>
> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>
> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>
> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
> the following plan:
>
> 1. More professional website
> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
> website.
> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
> platform.
> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>
> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>
> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>
> 2. New guides/documentation
> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
> recipes for users.
> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
> on the Decanter guide:
>
> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>
> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
> such look'n feel.
>
> 3. Meetups
> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
> enthusiasts.
> I will give you more details soon.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Yes, let me do that.
Thanks
Regards
JB
On 12/03/2015 08:56 AM, Morgan Hautman wrote:
> As discussed on Skype:
>
> It would be better if the menu sticks to the left even when the users
> scolls down.
> For the font-size , better define text with "em" instead of "px".
>
> Regards,
> Morgan
>
> On 12/02/2015 04:48 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> I added a left menu, change the bullet form, align the project section
>> on left (instead of right). For the font-size, I'm not sure for now (I
>> setted to 14px for now, I tried 16px but I don't like the result that
>> much).
>>
>> The proposal is on the same location:
>>
>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 12/02/2015 09:48 AM, Morgan Hautman wrote:
>>> HI JB,
>>>
>>> Some remarks / improvements I see:
>>>
>>> I think the font is too small , particularly the headings.
>>>
>>> Since you want to put everything (like the releases for example) on a
>>> single page. It might be a good idea to add a sort of quick navigation
>>> on the left of each page. Like I did here ->
>>> http://mhautman.com/karaf-site/
>>>
>>> On the home page, when you scroll down to "Projects", it's a nice try to
>>> put all the Text centered at the right but It's IMHO it's really weird
>>> and even more with the bullets. You should try to make the bullet center
>>> to the left but let the whole content float to the left. (If you get
>>> what I mean..)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Morgan
>>>
>>> On 12/01/2015 04:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> I updated the website proposal:
>>>>
>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>
>>>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>>>
>>>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
>>>> sliders, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm working on:
>>>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>>>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
>>>> samples embedded in the distribution
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments
>>>> (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great
>>>>> tool,
>>>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects
>>>>> that we
>>>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>>>> the following plan:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. More professional website
>>>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>>>> website.
>>>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on
>>>>> OSGi. The
>>>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>>>> platform.
>>>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>>
>>>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the
>>>>> documentation.
>>>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>>>> recipes for users.
>>>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of
>>>>> output
>>>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>>>> such look'n feel.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Meetups
>>>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs,
>>>>> and
>>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Morgan Hautman <mo...@gmail.com>.
As discussed on Skype:
It would be better if the menu sticks to the left even when the users
scolls down.
For the font-size , better define text with "em" instead of "px".
Regards,
Morgan
On 12/02/2015 04:48 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> I added a left menu, change the bullet form, align the project section
> on left (instead of right). For the font-size, I'm not sure for now (I
> setted to 14px for now, I tried 16px but I don't like the result that
> much).
>
> The proposal is on the same location:
>
> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 12/02/2015 09:48 AM, Morgan Hautman wrote:
>> HI JB,
>>
>> Some remarks / improvements I see:
>>
>> I think the font is too small , particularly the headings.
>>
>> Since you want to put everything (like the releases for example) on a
>> single page. It might be a good idea to add a sort of quick navigation
>> on the left of each page. Like I did here ->
>> http://mhautman.com/karaf-site/
>>
>> On the home page, when you scroll down to "Projects", it's a nice try to
>> put all the Text centered at the right but It's IMHO it's really weird
>> and even more with the bullets. You should try to make the bullet center
>> to the left but let the whole content float to the left. (If you get
>> what I mean..)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Morgan
>>
>> On 12/01/2015 04:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I updated the website proposal:
>>>
>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>
>>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>>
>>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
>>> sliders, etc.
>>>
>>> Now, I'm working on:
>>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
>>> samples embedded in the distribution
>>>
>>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments
>>> (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>>
>>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>>
>>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great
>>>> tool,
>>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>>
>>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects
>>>> that we
>>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>>
>>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>>> the following plan:
>>>>
>>>> 1. More professional website
>>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>>> website.
>>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on
>>>> OSGi. The
>>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>>> platform.
>>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>>
>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>
>>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>>
>>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the
>>>> documentation.
>>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>>> recipes for users.
>>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of
>>>> output
>>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>>
>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>>
>>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>>> such look'n feel.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Meetups
>>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs,
>>>> and
>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>
>>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
I added a left menu, change the bullet form, align the project section
on left (instead of right). For the font-size, I'm not sure for now (I
setted to 14px for now, I tried 16px but I don't like the result that much).
The proposal is on the same location:
http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
Regards
JB
On 12/02/2015 09:48 AM, Morgan Hautman wrote:
> HI JB,
>
> Some remarks / improvements I see:
>
> I think the font is too small , particularly the headings.
>
> Since you want to put everything (like the releases for example) on a
> single page. It might be a good idea to add a sort of quick navigation
> on the left of each page. Like I did here ->
> http://mhautman.com/karaf-site/
>
> On the home page, when you scroll down to "Projects", it's a nice try to
> put all the Text centered at the right but It's IMHO it's really weird
> and even more with the bullets. You should try to make the bullet center
> to the left but let the whole content float to the left. (If you get
> what I mean..)
>
> Regards,
> Morgan
>
> On 12/01/2015 04:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I updated the website proposal:
>>
>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>
>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>
>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
>> sliders, etc.
>>
>> Now, I'm working on:
>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
>> samples embedded in the distribution
>>
>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments
>> (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>
>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>
>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>
>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>
>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>> the following plan:
>>>
>>> 1. More professional website
>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>> website.
>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>> platform.
>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>
>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>
>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>
>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>> recipes for users.
>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>
>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>
>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>> such look'n feel.
>>>
>>> 3. Meetups
>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>>> enthusiasts.
>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks Morgan,
let me integrate your comments.
Regards
JB
On 12/02/2015 09:48 AM, Morgan Hautman wrote:
> HI JB,
>
> Some remarks / improvements I see:
>
> I think the font is too small , particularly the headings.
>
> Since you want to put everything (like the releases for example) on a
> single page. It might be a good idea to add a sort of quick navigation
> on the left of each page. Like I did here ->
> http://mhautman.com/karaf-site/
>
> On the home page, when you scroll down to "Projects", it's a nice try to
> put all the Text centered at the right but It's IMHO it's really weird
> and even more with the bullets. You should try to make the bullet center
> to the left but let the whole content float to the left. (If you get
> what I mean..)
>
> Regards,
> Morgan
>
> On 12/01/2015 04:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I updated the website proposal:
>>
>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>
>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>
>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
>> sliders, etc.
>>
>> Now, I'm working on:
>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
>> samples embedded in the distribution
>>
>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments
>> (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>
>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>
>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>
>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>
>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>> the following plan:
>>>
>>> 1. More professional website
>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>> website.
>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>> platform.
>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>
>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>
>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>
>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>> recipes for users.
>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>
>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>
>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>> such look'n feel.
>>>
>>> 3. Meetups
>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>>> enthusiasts.
>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Morgan Hautman <mo...@gmail.com>.
HI JB,
Some remarks / improvements I see:
I think the font is too small , particularly the headings.
Since you want to put everything (like the releases for example) on a
single page. It might be a good idea to add a sort of quick navigation
on the left of each page. Like I did here -> http://mhautman.com/karaf-site/
On the home page, when you scroll down to "Projects", it's a nice try to
put all the Text centered at the right but It's IMHO it's really weird
and even more with the bullets. You should try to make the bullet center
to the left but let the whole content float to the left. (If you get
what I mean..)
Regards,
Morgan
On 12/01/2015 04:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I updated the website proposal:
>
> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>
> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>
> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news
> sliders, etc.
>
> Now, I'm working on:
> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with
> samples embedded in the distribution
>
> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments
> (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>
> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>
>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>
>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>
>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>> the following plan:
>>
>> 1. More professional website
>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>> website.
>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>> platform.
>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>
>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>
>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>
>> 2. New guides/documentation
>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>> recipes for users.
>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>> on the Decanter guide:
>>
>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>
>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>> such look'n feel.
>>
>> 3. Meetups
>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>> enthusiasts.
>> I will give you more details soon.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Ah you mean directly the video on the Karaf website.
Yes, good idea !
Let me add this too ;)
Regards
JB
On 12/02/2015 10:30 AM, Serge Huber wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> I was wondering about something like this : http://aurelia.io
>
> Basically a very exposed video that explains the basic first steps or talks about the project. I was also wondering if we should do something like this for Unomi. Actually I was also wondering if it’s ok to embed a YouTube video, not necessarily recorded at ApacheCon in an Apache website ?
>
> cheers,
> Serge…
>
>
>> On 2 déc. 2015, at 10:22, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Serge,
>>
>> thanks for your comments as well !
>>
>> Let me try to cleanup the bullets.
>>
>> For the videos/slides, I put this in the Documentation section (with articles, tutorials, etc).
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 12/02/2015 10:19 AM, Serge Huber wrote:
>>> Love the new project, especially the new messaging that makes it a lot clearer.
>>>
>>> The projects part is fantastic in terms of message but I think it needs a little improvements because the bullets look weird. Maybe just remove the bullets ?
>>>
>>> Also it would be great to have a “videos” section if there are any recorded sessions of Karaf talks. Or at the least slidedecks. What do you think about that ?
>>>
>>> I also noticed Karaf Boot is already in there, cool !
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Serge…
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 1 déc. 2015, at 16:39, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> I updated the website proposal:
>>>>
>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>
>>>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>>>
>>>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news sliders, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm working on:
>>>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>>>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with samples embedded in the distribution
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>>>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>>>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>>>> the following plan:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. More professional website
>>>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>>>> website.
>>>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>>>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>>>> platform.
>>>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>>
>>>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>>>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>>>> recipes for users.
>>>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>>>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>>>> such look'n feel.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Meetups
>>>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Serge Huber <sh...@jahia.com>.
Hi JB,
I was wondering about something like this : http://aurelia.io
Basically a very exposed video that explains the basic first steps or talks about the project. I was also wondering if we should do something like this for Unomi. Actually I was also wondering if it’s ok to embed a YouTube video, not necessarily recorded at ApacheCon in an Apache website ?
cheers,
Serge…
> On 2 déc. 2015, at 10:22, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Serge,
>
> thanks for your comments as well !
>
> Let me try to cleanup the bullets.
>
> For the videos/slides, I put this in the Documentation section (with articles, tutorials, etc).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 12/02/2015 10:19 AM, Serge Huber wrote:
>> Love the new project, especially the new messaging that makes it a lot clearer.
>>
>> The projects part is fantastic in terms of message but I think it needs a little improvements because the bullets look weird. Maybe just remove the bullets ?
>>
>> Also it would be great to have a “videos” section if there are any recorded sessions of Karaf talks. Or at the least slidedecks. What do you think about that ?
>>
>> I also noticed Karaf Boot is already in there, cool !
>>
>> cheers,
>> Serge…
>>
>>
>>> On 1 déc. 2015, at 16:39, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I updated the website proposal:
>>>
>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>
>>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>>
>>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news sliders, etc.
>>>
>>> Now, I'm working on:
>>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with samples embedded in the distribution
>>>
>>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>>
>>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>>
>>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>>
>>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>>
>>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>>> the following plan:
>>>>
>>>> 1. More professional website
>>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>>> website.
>>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>>> platform.
>>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>>
>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>
>>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>>
>>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>>> recipes for users.
>>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>>
>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>>
>>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>>> such look'n feel.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Meetups
>>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Serge,
thanks for your comments as well !
Let me try to cleanup the bullets.
For the videos/slides, I put this in the Documentation section (with
articles, tutorials, etc).
Regards
JB
On 12/02/2015 10:19 AM, Serge Huber wrote:
> Love the new project, especially the new messaging that makes it a lot clearer.
>
> The projects part is fantastic in terms of message but I think it needs a little improvements because the bullets look weird. Maybe just remove the bullets ?
>
> Also it would be great to have a “videos” section if there are any recorded sessions of Karaf talks. Or at the least slidedecks. What do you think about that ?
>
> I also noticed Karaf Boot is already in there, cool !
>
> cheers,
> Serge…
>
>
>> On 1 déc. 2015, at 16:39, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I updated the website proposal:
>>
>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>
>> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>>
>> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news sliders, etc.
>>
>> Now, I'm working on:
>> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
>> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with samples embedded in the distribution
>>
>> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>>
>> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>>
>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>
>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>>
>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>>> the following plan:
>>>
>>> 1. More professional website
>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>>> website.
>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>>> platform.
>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>>
>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>
>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>
>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>> recipes for users.
>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>
>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>
>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>>> such look'n feel.
>>>
>>> 3. Meetups
>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>>> enthusiasts.
>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
Posted by Serge Huber <sh...@jahia.com>.
Love the new project, especially the new messaging that makes it a lot clearer.
The projects part is fantastic in terms of message but I think it needs a little improvements because the bullets look weird. Maybe just remove the bullets ?
Also it would be great to have a “videos” section if there are any recorded sessions of Karaf talks. Or at the least slidedecks. What do you think about that ?
I also noticed Karaf Boot is already in there, cool !
cheers,
Serge…
> On 1 déc. 2015, at 16:39, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I updated the website proposal:
>
> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>
> (don't forget to reload the page cache with CTRL-R for instance).
>
> I added most of the pages (I have to clean up some links), the news sliders, etc.
>
> Now, I'm working on:
> 1. migrating the documentation to asciidoc (like the decanter one)
> 2. revamping of the dev guide to be more "recipes oriented", with samples embedded in the distribution
>
> Regarding the website, please, don't hesitate to share your comments (on IRC, Skype, mail, or mailing list), I will integrate it.
>
> I would like to promote this new "marketing" material soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf marketing.
>>
>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great tool,
>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>
>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects that we
>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge step
>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware and
>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf areas.
>>
>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propose
>> the following plan:
>>
>> 1. More professional website
>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of the
>> website.
>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on OSGi. The
>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to explain
>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere" paradigm
>> platform.
>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a more
>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message):
>>
>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>
>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than the
>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>
>> 2. New guides/documentation
>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the documentation.
>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>> recipes for users.
>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of output
>> on the Decanter guide:
>>
>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>
>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup using
>> such look'n feel.
>>
>> 3. Meetups
>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users, devs, and
>> enthusiasts.
>> I will give you more details soon.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com