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Whirr on HPCloud
I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
people generate
clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
sponsored in part by HPCloud.
Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
How does one find the possible values for:
whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
standard.medium ?
whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
Thanks,
Paul
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
CDH4.0.1 does work with 12.04, but it's not in Whirr yet - repo paths have
to be changed. The patch at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-598may be a decent
starting point (though I still need to do some cleanup on
it).
A.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
> yes, hp supports user writable images, last I checked.
>
> https://www.hpcloud.com/products/cloud-compute
>
> -A
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
> > ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
> > ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
> 12.04.
> >
> > Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
> speed up
> > provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> >>
> >> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
> patch,
> >> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
> >> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
> >>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick
> an
> >>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
> >>>
> >>> A.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
> IPs
> >>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually
> go
> >>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they
> put
> >>>
> >>> in
> >>>>
> >>>> there to the IP instead.
> >>>>
> >>>> A.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi, Paul.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's easiest way
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apply latest patch here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Set
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> >>>>> tonight.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -A
> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
> >>>>>
> >>>>> people
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> generate
> >>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
> >>>
> >>> 18
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> >>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> >>>>>> standard.medium ?
> >>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
CDH4.0.1 does work with 12.04, but it's not in Whirr yet - repo paths have
to be changed. The patch at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-598may be a decent
starting point (though I still need to do some cleanup on
it).
A.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
> yes, hp supports user writable images, last I checked.
>
> https://www.hpcloud.com/products/cloud-compute
>
> -A
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
> > ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
> > ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
> 12.04.
> >
> > Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
> speed up
> > provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> >>
> >> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
> patch,
> >> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
> >> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
> >>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick
> an
> >>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
> >>>
> >>> A.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
> IPs
> >>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually
> go
> >>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they
> put
> >>>
> >>> in
> >>>>
> >>>> there to the IP instead.
> >>>>
> >>>> A.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi, Paul.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's easiest way
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Apply latest patch here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Set
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> >>>>> tonight.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -A
> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
> >>>>>
> >>>>> people
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> generate
> >>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
> >>>
> >>> 18
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> >>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> >>>>>> standard.medium ?
> >>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>.
yes, hp supports user writable images, last I checked.
https://www.hpcloud.com/products/cloud-compute
-A
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with 12.04.
>
> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to speed up
> provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>
>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above patch,
>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
>>>
>>> in
>>>>
>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>
>>>>> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>
>>>>> Set
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>
>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> -A
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>
>>>>> people
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generate
>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>
>>> 18
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@hortonworks.com>.
On 15 March 2013 23:21, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In Aug. 2012, HPCloud did not support the necessary security group
> features (symbolic instance membership), so I used manually-created CIDR
> /32 permissions. This could have been automated, but I did not have time to
> do that.
>
> When using OpenStack, it is important to be aware that any particular IaaS
> offering can have a different mix of version levels of the services. So one
> needs to know the implemented major version levels of nova, swift, quantum,
> keystone, glance, and cinder.
>
>
> Paul
be nice if there was a URL that would give you these details, and even
things like
swift: {
api: 0.2
implementation {
platform: swift:
version 0.2
}
}
which would distinguish it from, say
implementation {
platform: Glustre:
version 6.4
}
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
In Aug. 2012, HPCloud did not support the necessary security group
features (symbolic instance membership), so I used manually-created CIDR
/32 permissions. This could have been automated, but I did not have time
to do that.
When using OpenStack, it is important to be aware that any particular
IaaS offering can have a different mix of version levels of the
services. So one needs to know the implemented major version levels of
nova, swift, quantum, keystone, glance, and cinder.
Paul
On 20130315 13:20 , Andrew Bayer wrote:
> Not to engage in thread necromancy, but did you ever manage to get security
> groups on hp cloud working with whirr? =)
>
> A.
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>> From: Adrian Cole
>>> I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
>>> and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
>>> you can use EC2 security group properties.
>> I am able to get an HP AUTH token with curl and use it to list sec.
>> groups, am not sure how to pass that to jclouds, so Whirr gets auth failure
>> just looking up images. I tried setting whirr.credential to the HP AUTH
>> token and also tried using the secret_key.
>>
>> Workaround would be to supply Whirr with a pre-exisiting security group to
>> use, then I can modify the sec. group with a w.x.y.z/32, CIDR list after
>> Whirr runs. (On HPCloud, the number of sec. groups is limited to about 7
>> by default, so I easily run out of these (increasing the limit is taking
>> time).)
>>
>> Based on http://code.google.com/p/**jclouds/issues/detail?id=814<http://code.google.com/p/jclouds/issues/detail?id=814>it looks like what I need is possible:
>>
>> client.**createSecurityGroupRuleAllowin**gSecurityGroupId(**securityGroup.getId(),
>> ingress, securityGroup.getId());
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20120817 16:46 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> I would like to use the ec2 style extension on hpcloud, but I will see if
>>> I get to that. I'm still making my custom image.
>>>
>>> Note: hpcloud supports ec2 style metadata like:
>>> wget -q -O - http://169.254.169.254/latest/**meta-data/local-ipv4<http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/local-ipv4>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 20120817 10:58 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> Notes inline:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adrian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the
>>>>> region/number
>>>>> form for hw and images.
>>>>>
>>>> There's a new patch, btw. I found the issue you tripped over and
>>>> fixed it in WHIRR-593-incTemplate.patch
>>>>
>>>>> Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
>>>>> because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created only
>>>>> gave port 22 permission.
>>>>>
>>>>> a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created (rather
>>>>> than
>>>>> open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think we have a setting for this, yet.
>>>>
>>>>> b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has the
>>>>> "applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
>>>>>
>>>> supporting openstack means adding support for their security group
>>>> extension. I've made note of it here:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WHIRR-118<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-118>
>>>>
>>>> I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
>>>> and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
>>>> you can use EC2 security group properties.
>>>>
>>>>> I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
>>>>>> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
>>>>>> to test another patch until that works :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> IDs you need.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
>>>>>>> 64bit
>>>>>>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these
>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>> props:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image
>>>>>>> id
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> "not found"):
>>>>>>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # id not found:
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.**small
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # id not found:
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=**UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,**os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the
>>>>>>> openstack
>>>>>>> machine code like this:
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-**a.geo-1/101
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
>>>>>>> custom
>>>>>>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr
>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
>>>>>>>> 12.04.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>>>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>>>>>>> patch,
>>>>>>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically
>>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <
>>>>>>>>>> andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>>>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WHIRR-593<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=**UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,**os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aug.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
Not to engage in thread necromancy, but did you ever manage to get security
groups on hp cloud working with whirr? =)
A.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > From: Adrian Cole
>
> > I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
> > and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
> > you can use EC2 security group properties.
>
> I am able to get an HP AUTH token with curl and use it to list sec.
> groups, am not sure how to pass that to jclouds, so Whirr gets auth failure
> just looking up images. I tried setting whirr.credential to the HP AUTH
> token and also tried using the secret_key.
>
> Workaround would be to supply Whirr with a pre-exisiting security group to
> use, then I can modify the sec. group with a w.x.y.z/32, CIDR list after
> Whirr runs. (On HPCloud, the number of sec. groups is limited to about 7
> by default, so I easily run out of these (increasing the limit is taking
> time).)
>
> Based on http://code.google.com/p/**jclouds/issues/detail?id=814<http://code.google.com/p/jclouds/issues/detail?id=814>it looks like what I need is possible:
>
> client.**createSecurityGroupRuleAllowin**gSecurityGroupId(**securityGroup.getId(),
> ingress, securityGroup.getId());
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> On 20120817 16:46 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> I would like to use the ec2 style extension on hpcloud, but I will see if
>> I get to that. I'm still making my custom image.
>>
>> Note: hpcloud supports ec2 style metadata like:
>> wget -q -O - http://169.254.169.254/latest/**meta-data/local-ipv4<http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/local-ipv4>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 20120817 10:58 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>
>>> Notes inline:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adrian,
>>>>
>>>> Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the
>>>> region/number
>>>> form for hw and images.
>>>>
>>> There's a new patch, btw. I found the issue you tripped over and
>>> fixed it in WHIRR-593-incTemplate.patch
>>>
>>>> Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
>>>> because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created only
>>>> gave port 22 permission.
>>>>
>>>> a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created (rather
>>>> than
>>>> open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
>>>>
>>> I don't think we have a setting for this, yet.
>>>
>>>> b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has the
>>>> "applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
>>>>
>>> supporting openstack means adding support for their security group
>>> extension. I've made note of it here:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WHIRR-118<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-118>
>>>
>>> I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
>>> and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
>>> you can use EC2 security group properties.
>>>
>>>> I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
>>>> permissions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
>>>>> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
>>>>> to test another patch until that works :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -A
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> IDs you need.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
>>>>>> 64bit
>>>>>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these
>>>>>> config
>>>>>> props:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image
>>>>>> id
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> "not found"):
>>>>>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # id not found:
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.**small
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # id not found:
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=**UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,**os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the
>>>>>> openstack
>>>>>> machine code like this:
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-**a.geo-1/101
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
>>>>>> custom
>>>>>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr
>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
>>>>>>> 12.04.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>>>>>> patch,
>>>>>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically
>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <
>>>>>>>>> andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/WHIRR-593<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=**UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,**os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aug.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for
>>>>>>>>>>>> HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
> From: Adrian Cole
> I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
> and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
> you can use EC2 security group properties.
I am able to get an HP AUTH token with curl and use it to list sec.
groups, am not sure how to pass that to jclouds, so Whirr gets auth
failure just looking up images. I tried setting whirr.credential to the
HP AUTH token and also tried using the secret_key.
Workaround would be to supply Whirr with a pre-exisiting security group
to use, then I can modify the sec. group with a w.x.y.z/32, CIDR list
after Whirr runs. (On HPCloud, the number of sec. groups is limited to
about 7 by default, so I easily run out of these (increasing the limit
is taking time).)
Based on http://code.google.com/p/jclouds/issues/detail?id=814 it looks
like what I need is possible:
client.createSecurityGroupRuleAllowingSecurityGroupId(securityGroup.getId(),
ingress, securityGroup.getId());
Paul
On 20120817 16:46 , Paul Baclace wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
>
> I would like to use the ec2 style extension on hpcloud, but I will see
> if I get to that. I'm still making my custom image.
>
> Note: hpcloud supports ec2 style metadata like:
> wget -q -O - http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/local-ipv4
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 20120817 10:58 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>> Hi, Paul.
>>
>> Notes inline:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Paul Baclace
>> <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Adrian,
>>>
>>> Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the
>>> region/number
>>> form for hw and images.
>> There's a new patch, btw. I found the issue you tripped over and
>> fixed it in WHIRR-593-incTemplate.patch
>>> Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
>>> because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created
>>> only
>>> gave port 22 permission.
>>>
>>> a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created
>>> (rather than
>>> open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
>> I don't think we have a setting for this, yet.
>>> b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has
>>> the
>>> "applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
>> supporting openstack means adding support for their security group
>> extension. I've made note of it here:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-118
>>
>> I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
>> and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
>> you can use EC2 security group properties.
>>> I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
>>> permissions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
>>>> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
>>>> to test another patch until that works :)
>>>>
>>>> -A
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can
>>>>>> enumerate the
>>>>>> IDs you need.
>>>>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
>>>>> 64bit
>>>>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these
>>>>> config
>>>>> props:
>>>>>
>>>>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console
>>>>> (image id
>>>>> is
>>>>> "not found"):
>>>>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>>>>
>>>>> # id not found:
>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>>>>>
>>>>> # id not found:
>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>>>>
>>>>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the
>>>>> openstack
>>>>> machine code like this:
>>>>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>>>>>
>>>>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
>>>>> custom
>>>>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>>>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr
>>>>>> will be
>>>>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes
>>>>>> can be
>>>>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
>>>>>> 12.04.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>>>>>> speed
>>>>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>>>>> patch,
>>>>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all.
>>>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll
>>>>>>>> automatically pick
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer
>>>>>>>> <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help
>>>>>>>>>> commit it
>>>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I
>>>>>>>>>>> can help
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon
>>>>>>>>>>> on Aug.
>>>>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for
>>>>>>>>>>> HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the info.
I would like to use the ec2 style extension on hpcloud, but I will see
if I get to that. I'm still making my custom image.
Note: hpcloud supports ec2 style metadata like:
wget -q -O - http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/local-ipv4
Paul
On 20120817 10:58 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Notes inline:
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Adrian,
>>
>> Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the region/number
>> form for hw and images.
> There's a new patch, btw. I found the issue you tripped over and
> fixed it in WHIRR-593-incTemplate.patch
>> Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
>> because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created only
>> gave port 22 permission.
>>
>> a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created (rather than
>> open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
> I don't think we have a setting for this, yet.
>> b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has the
>> "applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
> supporting openstack means adding support for their security group
> extension. I've made note of it here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-118
>
> I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
> and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
> you can use EC2 security group properties.
>> I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
>> permissions.
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>
>>> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
>>> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
>>> to test another patch until that works :)
>>>
>>> -A
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate the
>>>>> IDs you need.
>>>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>>>
>>>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
>>>> 64bit
>>>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these
>>>> config
>>>> props:
>>>>
>>>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id
>>>> is
>>>> "not found"):
>>>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>>>
>>>> # id not found:
>>>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>>>>
>>>> # id not found:
>>>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>>>
>>>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>>>>
>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>>>
>>>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
>>>> machine code like this:
>>>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>>>>
>>>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
>>>> custom
>>>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
>>>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
>>>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
>>>>> 12.04.
>>>>>
>>>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>>>>> speed
>>>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>>>> patch,
>>>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
>>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually
>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>.
Hi, Paul.
Notes inline:
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adrian,
>
> Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the region/number
> form for hw and images.
There's a new patch, btw. I found the issue you tripped over and
fixed it in WHIRR-593-incTemplate.patch
>
> Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
> because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created only
> gave port 22 permission.
>
> a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created (rather than
> open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
I don't think we have a setting for this, yet.
>
> b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has the
> "applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
supporting openstack means adding support for their security group
extension. I've made note of it here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-118
I suppose another way would be to use "openstack-nova-ec2" provider
and specify hp as the endpoint. This could possibly work, and then
you can use EC2 security group properties.
>
> I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
> permissions.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Paul.
>>
>> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
>> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
>> to test another patch until that works :)
>>
>> -A
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate the
>>>> IDs you need.
>>>
>>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>>
>>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
>>> 64bit
>>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these
>>> config
>>> props:
>>>
>>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id
>>> is
>>> "not found"):
>>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>>
>>> # id not found:
>>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>>>
>>> # id not found:
>>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>>
>>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>>>
>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>>
>>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
>>> machine code like this:
>>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>>>
>>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
>>> custom
>>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
>>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
>>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with
>>>> 12.04.
>>>>
>>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>>>> speed
>>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>>> patch,
>>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
Adrian,
Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the
region/number form for hw and images.
Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created only
gave port 22 permission.
a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created (rather
than open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has the
"applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
permissions.
Paul
On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
> to test another patch until that works :)
>
> -A
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate the
>>> IDs you need.
>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>
>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a 64bit
>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these config
>> props:
>>
>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id is
>> "not found"):
>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>
>> # id not found:
>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>>
>> # id not found:
>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>
>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>
>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
>> machine code like this:
>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>>
>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a custom
>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with 12.04.
>>>
>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to speed
>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>> patch,
>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> A.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
>>>>> in
>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
Adrian,
Trying the patch did not consume too much time; I can use the
region/number form for hw and images.
Here is the next issue: start 2 zookeepers and they cannot communicate
because the jclouds-$cluster_name security group that Whirr created only
gave port 22 permission.
a. how to specify ports to open between all the nodes created (rather
than open to all of Internet or all of LAN)?
b. how to specify the name of an existing sec. group which also has the
"applies to all instances that are bound to it" property.
I hope this can be done without resorting to (n^2 - n)/2 distinct port
permissions.
Paul
On 20120816 7:25 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
> the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
> to test another patch until that works :)
>
> -A
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate the
>>> IDs you need.
>> Good to know. I will try this.
>>
>> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a 64bit
>> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these config
>> props:
>>
>> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id is
>> "not found"):
>> whirr.image-id=8419
>>
>> # id not found:
>> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>>
>> # id not found:
>> whirr.hardware-id=101
>>
>> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>>
>> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
>> machine code like this:
>> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>>
>> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a custom
>> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
>>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
>>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with 12.04.
>>>
>>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to speed
>>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>>> patch,
>>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> A.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
>>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
>>>>> in
>>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -A
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>>> 18
>>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>.
Hi, Paul.
Sorry the patch didn't work for you, but glad to hear you discovered
the params you need. I'll try *exactly* what you did and not ask you
to test another patch until that works :)
-A
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate the
>> IDs you need.
>
> Good to know. I will try this.
>
> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a 64bit
> "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite these config
> props:
>
> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id is
> "not found"):
> whirr.image-id=8419
>
> # id not found:
> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>
> # id not found:
> whirr.hardware-id=101
>
> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>
> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
> machine code like this:
> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>
> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a custom
> image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>>
>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
>> ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
>> ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with 12.04.
>>
>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to speed
>> up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>> patch,
>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
>>>>> IPs
>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> A.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -A
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>>
>>>> 18
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
This worked for starting ubuntu 12.04:
whirr.image-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/8419
On 20120816 2:49 , Paul Baclace wrote:
> > P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate
> the IDs you need.
>
> Good to know. I will try this.
>
> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
> 64bit "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite
> these config props:
>
> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image
> id is "not found"):
> whirr.image-id=8419
>
> # id not found:
> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>
> # id not found:
> whirr.hardware-id=101
>
> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>
>
> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the
> openstack machine code like this:
> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>
> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
> custom image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will
>> be ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes
>> can be ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked
>> with 12.04.
>>
>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>> speed up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>> patch,
>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically
>>>> pick an
>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>>> public IPs
>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>>> manually go
>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames
>>>>> they put
>>>> in
>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> A.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>
>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -A
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>> 18
>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
This worked for starting ubuntu 12.04:
whirr.image-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/8419
On 20120816 2:49 , Paul Baclace wrote:
> > P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate
> the IDs you need.
>
> Good to know. I will try this.
>
> Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
> 64bit "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite
> these config props:
>
> # a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image
> id is "not found"):
> whirr.image-id=8419
>
> # id not found:
> whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
>
> # id not found:
> whirr.hardware-id=101
>
> # changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
>
>
> I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the
> openstack machine code like this:
> whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
>
> Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
> custom image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
>> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will
>> be ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes
>> can be ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked
>> with 12.04.
>>
>> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
>> speed up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>>> patch,
>>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically
>>>> pick an
>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>>> public IPs
>>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>>> manually go
>>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames
>>>>> they put
>>>> in
>>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> A.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>>
>>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -A
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>>> 18
>>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate
the IDs you need.
Good to know. I will try this.
Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
64bit "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite
these config props:
# a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id
is "not found"):
whirr.image-id=8419
# id not found:
whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
# id not found:
whirr.hardware-id=101
# changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
machine code like this:
whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
custom image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
Paul
On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will
> be ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes
> can be ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked
> with 12.04.
>
> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
> speed up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>> patch,
>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically
>>> pick an
>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>> public IPs
>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>> manually go
>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they
>>>> put
>>> in
>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>
>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>
>>>>> Set
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>
>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> -A
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>> people
>>>>>> generate
>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>> 18
>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
> P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate
the IDs you need.
Good to know. I will try this.
Using the latest WHIRR-593 patch for jclouds 1.5.0b10, I can start a
64bit "noop" machine which ends up as xsmall and ubuntu 10.04 despite
these config props:
# a well known image ubuntu 12.04 as listed in hpcloud console (image id
is "not found"):
whirr.image-id=8419
# id not found:
whirr.hardware-id=standard.small
# id not found:
whirr.hardware-id=101
# changing the minRam to 2048 did not force a small machine:
whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=2048
I *was* able to start a small machine using the region and the openstack
machine code like this:
whirr.hardware-id=az-1.region-a.geo-1/101
Next I need to find the exact form for whirr.image-id so I can use a
custom image (perhaps region is needed in the specifier or a full URL).
Paul
On 20120815 18:29 , Paul Baclace wrote:
> I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will
> be ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes
> can be ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked
> with 12.04.
>
> Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
> speed up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
>> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above
>> patch,
>> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically
>>> pick an
>>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud
>>>> public IPs
>>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
>>>> manually go
>>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they
>>>> put
>>> in
>>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>>
>>>>> Apply latest patch here
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>>
>>>>> Set
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>
>>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> -A
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>>> people
>>>>>> generate
>>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>>> 18
>>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with 12.04.
Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
speed up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
Paul
On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above patch,
> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
>> in
>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>
>>>> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>
>>>> Set
>>>>
>>>>
>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>> tonight.
>>>>
>>>> -A
>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>> people
>>>>> generate
>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>> 18
>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>
>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>
>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>
>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
I built Whirr from trunk svn r1373566. The machine running whirr will be
ubuntu 12.04 (I hope that will work.) The spawned cluster nodes can be
ubuntu 10.04, but I thought CDH 4.0.1 specified that it worked with 12.04.
Normally, I prepare a custom os image (based on a whirr cluster) to
speed up provisioning. Will that work on HPCloud?
Paul
On 20120815 17:59 , Adrian Cole wrote:
> The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above patch,
> there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
>> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
>> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
>>> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
>>> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
>> in
>>> there to the IP instead.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> Here's easiest way
>>>>
>>>> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>>>
>>>> Set
>>>>
>>>>
>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>>>> tonight.
>>>>
>>>> -A
>>>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>>>> people
>>>>> generate
>>>>> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
>> 18
>>>>> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>>>>>
>>>>> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>>>>>
>>>>> How does one find the possible values for:
>>>>>
>>>>> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>>>>> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>>>>> standard.medium ?
>>>>> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>>>>>
>>>>> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>.
The problem is that 10.04 is literally hardcoded. Before the above patch,
there's no way to change that without knowing IDs.
On Aug 15, 2012 5:57 PM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
> whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
> Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
> > not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
> > onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put
> in
> > there to the IP instead.
> >
> > A.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Paul.
> >>
> >> Here's easiest way
> >>
> >> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
> >>
> >> Set
> >>
> >>
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
> >>
> >> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> >> tonight.
> >>
> >> -A
> >> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
> >> people
> >> > generate
> >> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug.
> 18
> >> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >> >
> >> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >> >
> >> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >> >
> >> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >> >
> >> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >> >
> >> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> >> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> >> > standard.medium ?
> >> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >> >
> >> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
A.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put in
> there to the IP instead.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Paul.
>>
>> Here's easiest way
>>
>> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>
>> Set
>>
>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>
>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>> tonight.
>>
>> -A
>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>> people
>> > generate
>> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
>> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>> >
>> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>> >
>> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>> >
>> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>> >
>> > How does one find the possible values for:
>> >
>> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>> > standard.medium ?
>> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>> >
>> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 20120815 17:54 , Andrew Bayer wrote:
> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
> IPs not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
> manually go onto each of your hosts and change any references to
> hostnames they put in there to the IP instead.
It's been some years since I had to deal with this security feature in
Java. It only needs within-cluster consistency for my purposes.
Do you mean modify /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname or apply sed to every
single .conf file?
Are the local state files affected on the host running Whirr? (There was
the idea floating around that jclouds might read that to avoid excess
REST calls instead of just writing it.)
I just checked an HP Cloud node and "dig -x $localIP" finds a PTR rec
(example: server-9999999999-az-1-region-a-geo-1.novalocal.), but the
public ip finds nothing.
(For reference: An associate of mine recently wrote up a simple test
tool for this:
http://sujee.net/tech/articles/hadoop/hadoop-dns/ )
Paul
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <adrian@jclouds.org
> <ma...@jclouds.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Here's easiest way
>
> Apply latest patch here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>
> Set
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>
> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> tonight.
>
> -A
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <paul.baclace@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can
> help people
> > generate
> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org
> <http://sfbayacm.org>) hackathon on Aug. 18
> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >
> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >
> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >
> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >
> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >
> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> > standard.medium ?
> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >
> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 20120815 17:54 , Andrew Bayer wrote:
> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
> IPs not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
> manually go onto each of your hosts and change any references to
> hostnames they put in there to the IP instead.
It's been some years since I had to deal with this security feature in
Java. It only needs within-cluster consistency for my purposes.
Do you mean modify /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname or apply sed to every
single .conf file?
Are the local state files affected on the host running Whirr? (There was
the idea floating around that jclouds might read that to avoid excess
REST calls instead of just writing it.)
I just checked an HP Cloud node and "dig -x $localIP" finds a PTR rec
(example: server-9999999999-az-1-region-a-geo-1.novalocal.), but the
public ip finds nothing.
(For reference: An associate of mine recently wrote up a simple test
tool for this:
http://sujee.net/tech/articles/hadoop/hadoop-dns/ )
Paul
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <adrian@jclouds.org
> <ma...@jclouds.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Here's easiest way
>
> Apply latest patch here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>
> Set
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>
> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> tonight.
>
> -A
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <paul.baclace@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can
> help people
> > generate
> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org
> <http://sfbayacm.org>) hackathon on Aug. 18
> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >
> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >
> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >
> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >
> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >
> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> > standard.medium ?
> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >
> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
...and you don't actually have to specify the OS stuff at all. Just
whirr.hardware-min-ram=1024 or whatever, and it'll automatically pick an
Ubuntu 10.04 image for you.
A.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
> not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
> onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put in
> there to the IP instead.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Paul.
>>
>> Here's easiest way
>>
>> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>>
>> Set
>>
>> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>>
>> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
>> tonight.
>>
>> -A
>> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help
>> people
>> > generate
>> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
>> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>> >
>> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>> >
>> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>> >
>> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>> >
>> > How does one find the possible values for:
>> >
>> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
>> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
>> > standard.medium ?
>> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>> >
>> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud, reverse ip
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 20120815 17:54 , Andrew Bayer wrote:
> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
> IPs not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
> manually go onto each of your hosts and change any references to
> hostnames they put in there to the IP instead.
What I found with the (pre-release) whirr 0.8.0, so far:
When a pair of zookeeper nodes are started, the zoo.cfg files have LAN
ip addrs and they were able to connect to each other (after I modified
the generated sec. group by hand).
.whirr/*/instances in effect looks like this:
$REGION/$instanceID $ROLES $IP_WAN $IP_LAN
There is no domain name. An old version of whirr running on EC2 has the
same format except that IP_WAN is a public domain name.
And hpcloud console detail on one of the instances created shows 2
public ip addresses (!); one is "fixed" and the other is "floating"
(hmm, either of those terms could imply static).
I can use "dig -x $localIP" to find a PTR rec (example:
server-9999999999-az-1-region-a-geo-1.novalocal.), but the public ip
finds nothing, and this lookup only works on the $localIP host itself.
Paul
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <adrian@jclouds.org
> <ma...@jclouds.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Here's easiest way
>
> Apply latest patch here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>
> Set
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>
> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> tonight.
>
> -A
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <paul.baclace@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can
> help people
> > generate
> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org
> <http://sfbayacm.org>) hackathon on Aug. 18
> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >
> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >
> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >
> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >
> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >
> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> > standard.medium ?
> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >
> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud, reverse ip
Posted by Paul Baclace <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 20120815 17:54 , Andrew Bayer wrote:
> You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public
> IPs not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to
> manually go onto each of your hosts and change any references to
> hostnames they put in there to the IP instead.
What I found with the (pre-release) whirr 0.8.0, so far:
When a pair of zookeeper nodes are started, the zoo.cfg files have LAN
ip addrs and they were able to connect to each other (after I modified
the generated sec. group by hand).
.whirr/*/instances in effect looks like this:
$REGION/$instanceID $ROLES $IP_WAN $IP_LAN
There is no domain name. An old version of whirr running on EC2 has the
same format except that IP_WAN is a public domain name.
And hpcloud console detail on one of the instances created shows 2
public ip addresses (!); one is "fixed" and the other is "floating"
(hmm, either of those terms could imply static).
I can use "dig -x $localIP" to find a PTR rec (example:
server-9999999999-az-1-region-a-geo-1.novalocal.), but the public ip
finds nothing, and this lookup only works on the $localIP host itself.
Paul
>
> A.
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <adrian@jclouds.org
> <ma...@jclouds.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Here's easiest way
>
> Apply latest patch here
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>
> Set
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>
> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it
> tonight.
>
> -A
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <paul.baclace@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can
> help people
> > generate
> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org
> <http://sfbayacm.org>) hackathon on Aug. 18
> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >
> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >
> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >
> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >
> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >
> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> > standard.medium ?
> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >
> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put in
there to the IP instead.
A.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Here's easiest way
>
> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>
> Set
>
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>
> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it tonight.
>
> -A
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help people
> > generate
> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >
> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >
> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >
> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >
> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >
> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> > standard.medium ?
> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >
> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>.
You'll actually have to do some manual tweaks due to HP Cloud public IPs
not having reverse-resolvable IP addresses - you'll need to manually go
onto each of your hosts and change any references to hostnames they put in
there to the IP instead.
A.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org> wrote:
> Hi, Paul.
>
> Here's easiest way
>
> Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
>
> Set
>
> whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
>
> Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it tonight.
>
> -A
> On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help people
> > generate
> > clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
> > sponsored in part by HPCloud.
> >
> > Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
> >
> > My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
> >
> > whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
> >
> > How does one find the possible values for:
> >
> > whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> > whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> > standard.medium ?
> > whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
> >
> > and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>.
Hi, Paul.
Here's easiest way
Apply latest patch here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-593
Set
whirr.template=osFamily=UBUNTU,osVersionMatches=12.04,os64Bit=true,minRam=1024
Should be good. If works, ping the issue and I can help commit it tonight.
-A
On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help people
> generate
> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>
> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>
> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>
> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>
> How does one find the possible values for:
>
> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> standard.medium ?
> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>
> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
Re: Whirr on HPCloud
Posted by Adrian Cole <ad...@jclouds.org>.
P.s. if you go to the jclouds-cli repo on github, you can enumerate the IDs
you need.
On Aug 15, 2012 5:45 PM, "Paul Baclace" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to get Whirr 0.8.0 running on HPCloud *today* so I can help people
> generate
> clusters for the ACM local chapter (sfbayacm.org) hackathon on Aug. 18
> sponsored in part by HPCloud.
>
> Because of WHIRR-593, I built Whirr from trunk.
>
> My plan is to use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise, 64-bit.
>
> whirr.provider=hpcloud-compute
>
> How does one find the possible values for:
>
> whirr.image-id // I assume numbers seen in HP web console work here
> whirr.hardware-id // use number from openstack or names like
> standard.medium ?
> whirr.location-id // what is proper form here?
>
> and any other property settings I need to know about for HPCloud?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>