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Re: Facebook page
Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> I did it already,
>
> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
great, thanks. :-)
Marcus
> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>
>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>
>>> Download it from here:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't mess
>>> with it)
>>
>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN command
>> to use?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 12/05/2016 11:00 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> I understand your concern...
>
> But the 100k favicon.ico has been there for about 2 years. ;-)
I'm sorry, I've only seen the 1k version.
Marcus
> Am 05.12.2016 um 22:58 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 12/05/2016 10:41 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> the new Google+ design is criticised by a lot of users and is giving me
>>> a hard time to adapt all the logos/graphics.
>>> It is now similar to the phone/tablet layout...
>>>
>>> About your thoughts concerning the size of the favicon.ico:
>>> I reworked it. It now contains 16x16, 32x32, 48x48 and 64x64. Every
>>> browser should be happy with that and the size shrunk to 32k.
>>>
>>> Can you live with that? ;-)
>>
>> sure, that's better than 100k.
>>
>> PS:
>> I just want to be sure that you understand my concern:
>> We have to make sure that the loading time is not decreased just due
>> to some fence stuff. We have to think about pro and contra. The
>> webpage is opened thousand of times. The G+ webpage only by much less
>> people.
>>
>> Even when it's just the favicon it is opened by every browser request.
>> So, it starts - as always - with the first step. ;-)
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 05.12.2016 um 12:29 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 12/03/2016 12:18 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you go to:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+openoffice
>>>>>
>>>>> there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
>>>>> there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says
>>>>> "Verkn�pfte
>>>>> Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs
>>>>> to the
>>>>> profile.
>>>>>
>>>>> But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
>>>>> may be not visible for you.
>>>>> In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
>>>>> Google thinks it should be default... :-O
>>>>>
>>>>> Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the screenshot. Than it makes sense. As you thought already
>>>> I see a different webpage style.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a
>>>>>>>>>>> confirmed
>>>>>>>>>>> link to
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>>>>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the
>>>>>>>>> string
>>>>>>>>> in index.html.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2
>>>>>>>> codes?
>>>>>>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>>>>>>> behind the link on Google+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>>>>>>> either)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is already one. Please see
>>>>>>>>>> ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>>>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except
>>>>>>>>>> dirs
>>>>>>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not
>>>>>>>>> referenced in
>>>>>>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>>>>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>>>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old
>>>>>>> unused
>>>>>>> icon? Can I rename it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a
>>>>>>>>>>> thumbnail
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it
>>>>>>>>>>> looks much
>>>>>>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement.
>>>>>>>>>> Compared with
>>>>>>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of
>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>>>>>>> there...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>>>>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When
>>>>>>>>>> checking
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>>>>>>> Homepage
>>>>>>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google)
>>>>>>>>> checks the
>>>>>>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not
>>>>>>>>> for our
>>>>>>>>> homepage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>>>>>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>>>>>>> given path?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may
>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>>>>>>> favicon needed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before.
>>>>>>> Therefore it
>>>>>>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>>>>>>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>>>>>>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The
>>>>>>> size of
>>>>>>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>>>>>>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
>>>>>> available space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, thanks for the updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all
>>>>>>>>>>> websites
>>>>>>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> https
>>>>>>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that
>>>>>>>>>>> must be
>>>>>>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>>>>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the
>>>>>>>>> page is
>>>>>>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
I understand your concern...
But the 100k favicon.ico has been there for about 2 years. ;-)
regards, Matthias
Am 05.12.2016 um 22:58 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/05/2016 10:41 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> the new Google+ design is criticised by a lot of users and is giving me
>> a hard time to adapt all the logos/graphics.
>> It is now similar to the phone/tablet layout...
>>
>> About your thoughts concerning the size of the favicon.ico:
>> I reworked it. It now contains 16x16, 32x32, 48x48 and 64x64. Every
>> browser should be happy with that and the size shrunk to 32k.
>>
>> Can you live with that? ;-)
>
> sure, that's better than 100k.
>
> PS:
> I just want to be sure that you understand my concern:
> We have to make sure that the loading time is not decreased just due
> to some fence stuff. We have to think about pro and contra. The
> webpage is opened thousand of times. The G+ webpage only by much less
> people.
>
> Even when it's just the favicon it is opened by every browser request.
> So, it starts - as always - with the first step. ;-)
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 05.12.2016 um 12:29 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 12/03/2016 12:18 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.
>>>>
>>>> If you go to:
>>>>
>>>> https://plus.google.com/+openoffice
>>>>
>>>> there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
>>>> there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says
>>>> "Verknüpfte
>>>> Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs
>>>> to the
>>>> profile.
>>>>
>>>> But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
>>>> may be not visible for you.
>>>> In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
>>>> Google thinks it should be default... :-O
>>>>
>>>> Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png
>>>
>>> thanks for the screenshot. Than it makes sense. As you thought already
>>> I see a different webpage style.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a
>>>>>>>>>> confirmed
>>>>>>>>>> link to
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>>>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the
>>>>>>>> string
>>>>>>>> in index.html.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2
>>>>>>> codes?
>>>>>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>>>>>> behind the link on Google+)
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>>>>>> either)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is already one. Please see
>>>>>>>>> ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except
>>>>>>>>> dirs
>>>>>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not
>>>>>>>> referenced in
>>>>>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>>>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old
>>>>>> unused
>>>>>> icon? Can I rename it?
>>>>>
>>>>> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> it...
>>>>>
>>>>> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a
>>>>>>>>>> thumbnail
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it
>>>>>>>>>> looks much
>>>>>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement.
>>>>>>>>> Compared with
>>>>>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of
>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>>>>>> there...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>>>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When
>>>>>>>>> checking
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>>>>>> Homepage
>>>>>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google)
>>>>>>>> checks the
>>>>>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not
>>>>>>>> for our
>>>>>>>> homepage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>>>>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>>>>>> given path?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may
>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>>>>>> favicon needed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before.
>>>>>> Therefore it
>>>>>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>>>>>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>>>>>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The
>>>>>> size of
>>>>>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>>>>>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>>>>>
>>>>> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
>>>>> available space.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, thanks for the updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all
>>>>>>>>>> websites
>>>>>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> https
>>>>>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that
>>>>>>>>>> must be
>>>>>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>>>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the
>>>>>>>> page is
>>>>>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 12/05/2016 10:41 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> the new Google+ design is criticised by a lot of users and is giving me
> a hard time to adapt all the logos/graphics.
> It is now similar to the phone/tablet layout...
>
> About your thoughts concerning the size of the favicon.ico:
> I reworked it. It now contains 16x16, 32x32, 48x48 and 64x64. Every
> browser should be happy with that and the size shrunk to 32k.
>
> Can you live with that? ;-)
sure, that's better than 100k.
PS:
I just want to be sure that you understand my concern:
We have to make sure that the loading time is not decreased just due to
some fence stuff. We have to think about pro and contra. The webpage is
opened thousand of times. The G+ webpage only by much less people.
Even when it's just the favicon it is opened by every browser request.
So, it starts - as always - with the first step. ;-)
Marcus
> Am 05.12.2016 um 12:29 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 12/03/2016 12:18 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.
>>>
>>> If you go to:
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/+openoffice
>>>
>>> there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
>>> there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says "Verkn�pfte
>>> Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs to the
>>> profile.
>>>
>>> But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
>>> may be not visible for you.
>>> In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
>>> Google thinks it should be default... :-O
>>>
>>> Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png
>>
>> thanks for the screenshot. Than it makes sense. As you thought already
>> I see a different webpage style.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a
>>>>>>>>> confirmed
>>>>>>>>> link to
>>>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the
>>>>>>> string
>>>>>>> in index.html.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
>>>>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>>>>> behind the link on Google+)
>>>>
>>>> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't
>>>>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>>>>> either)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except
>>>>>>>> dirs
>>>>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>>>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>>>>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
>>>>> icon? Can I rename it?
>>>>
>>>> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>>>>
>>>>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without
>>>>> it...
>>>>
>>>> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a
>>>>>>>>> thumbnail
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it
>>>>>>>>> looks much
>>>>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement.
>>>>>>>> Compared with
>>>>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>>>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>>>>> there...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>>>>> Homepage
>>>>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>>>>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not
>>>>>>> for our
>>>>>>> homepage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>>>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>>>>> given path?
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
>>>>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>>>>> favicon needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>>>>
>>>>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before.
>>>>> Therefore it
>>>>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>>>>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>>>>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The
>>>>> size of
>>>>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the
>>>>> available
>>>>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>>>>
>>>>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>>>>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>>>>
>>>> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
>>>> available space.
>>>>
>>>> Again, thanks for the updates.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>>>>>>> https
>>>>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>>>>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hello Marcus,
the new Google+ design is criticised by a lot of users and is giving me
a hard time to adapt all the logos/graphics.
It is now similar to the phone/tablet layout...
About your thoughts concerning the size of the favicon.ico:
I reworked it. It now contains 16x16, 32x32, 48x48 and 64x64. Every
browser should be happy with that and the size shrunk to 32k.
Can you live with that? ;-)
regards, Matthias
Am 05.12.2016 um 12:29 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/03/2016 12:18 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.
>>
>> If you go to:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/+openoffice
>>
>> there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
>> there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says "Verknüpfte
>> Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs to the
>> profile.
>>
>> But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
>> may be not visible for you.
>> In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
>> Google thinks it should be default... :-O
>>
>> Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png
>
> thanks for the screenshot. Than it makes sense. As you thought already
> I see a different webpage style.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a
>>>>>>>> confirmed
>>>>>>>> link to
>>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>>>> needed a
>>>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the
>>>>>> string
>>>>>> in index.html.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
>>>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>>>> behind the link on Google+)
>>>
>>> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>>>
>>>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't
>>>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>>>> either)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except
>>>>>>> dirs
>>>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>>>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>>>> already
>>>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, please.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
>>>> icon? Can I rename it?
>>>
>>> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>>>
>>>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without
>>>> it...
>>>
>>> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>>>
>>>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a
>>>>>>>> thumbnail
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it
>>>>>>>> looks much
>>>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement.
>>>>>>> Compared with
>>>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>>>> there...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>>>> Homepage
>>>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>>>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not
>>>>>> for our
>>>>>> homepage.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>>>> given path?
>>>>
>>>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
>>>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>>>> favicon needed?
>>>>
>>>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>>>
>>>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before.
>>>> Therefore it
>>>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>>>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>>>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The
>>>> size of
>>>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>>>
>>>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the
>>>> available
>>>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>>>
>>>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>>>
>>>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>>>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>>>
>>> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
>>> available space.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for the updates.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>>>>>> https
>>>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>>>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 12/03/2016 12:18 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.
>
> If you go to:
>
> https://plus.google.com/+openoffice
>
> there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
> there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says "Verkn�pfte
> Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs to the
> profile.
>
> But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
> may be not visible for you.
> In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
> Google thinks it should be default... :-O
>
> Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png
thanks for the screenshot. Than it makes sense. As you thought already I
see a different webpage style.
Marcus
> Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>>>>>>> link to
>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>>> needed a
>>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
>>>>> in index.html.
>>>>
>>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
>>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>>
>>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>>> behind the link on Google+)
>>
>> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>>
>>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't
>>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>>> either)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
>>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>>> already
>>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, please.
>>>
>>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
>>> icon? Can I rename it?
>>
>> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>>
>>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without
>>> it...
>>
>> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>>
>>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
>>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>>> there...
>>>>>
>>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>>> Homepage
>>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
>>>>> homepage.
>>>>
>>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>>> given path?
>>>
>>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
>>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
>>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>>> favicon needed?
>>>
>>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>>
>>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before. Therefore it
>>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The size of
>>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>>
>>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the available
>>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>>
>>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>>
>>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>>
>> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
>> available space.
>>
>> Again, thanks for the updates.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>>>>> https
>>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
>>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Hello Marcus,
I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.
If you go to:
https://plus.google.com/+openoffice
there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says "Verknüpfte
Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs to the
profile.
But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
may be not visible for you.
In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
Google thinks it should be default... :-O
Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png
regards, Matthias
Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>>>>>> link to
>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>
>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>> needed a
>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
>>>> in index.html.
>>>
>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>
>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>> behind the link on Google+)
>
> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>
>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't
>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>> either)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>> already
>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> Yes, please.
>>
>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
>> icon? Can I rename it?
>
> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>
>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without
>> it...
>
> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>
>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>
>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>
>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>> there...
>>>>
>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking
>>>>> the
>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>
>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>> Homepage
>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>
>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
>>>> homepage.
>>>
>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>> given path?
>>
>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>
>>>
>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>
>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>> favicon needed?
>>
>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>
>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before. Therefore it
>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The size of
>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>
>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the available
>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>
>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>
>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>
> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
> available space.
>
> Again, thanks for the updates.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>>>> https
>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>
>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>
>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>>>>> link to
>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>
>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>
>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google needed a
>>> new verification code for that.
>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
>>> in index.html.
>>
>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>
> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
> behind the link on Google+)
sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't hurt
>>>>> either)
>>>>
>>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>
>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>
>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was already
>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link accordingly.
>>
>> Yes, please.
>
> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
> icon? Can I rename it?
"favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without it...
No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail
>>>>> for
>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>
>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>>> webpage request.
>>>
>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>> there...
>>>
>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking the
>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>
>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic. Homepage
>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>
>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
>>> homepage.
>>
>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>> given path?
>
> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>
>>
>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>
>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>> favicon needed?
>
> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>
> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before. Therefore it
> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The size of
> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>
> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the available
> space better and looks "bigger".
>
> I think you can see the difference here:
>
> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
available space.
Again, thanks for the updates.
Marcus
>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>>> https
>>>>> as default?
>>>>>
>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>
>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>
>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>
>>> regards, Matthias
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>
>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>
>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>>>> link to
>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>
>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>
>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google needed a
>> new verification code for that.
>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
>> in index.html.
>
> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
behind the link on Google+)
>
>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't hurt
>>>> either)
>>>
>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>> belong there. ;-)
>>
>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>
>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was already
>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link accordingly.
>
> Yes, please.
OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
icon? Can I rename it?
And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without it...
>
>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail
>>>> for
>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>>>> clearer now.
>>>
>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>> webpage request.
>>
>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>> there...
>>
>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>
>>>
>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking the
>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>
>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic. Homepage
>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>
>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
>> homepage.
>
> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
> given path?
Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>
>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>
> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
> favicon needed?
Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
It contains graphics for different resolutions like before. Therefore it
is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The size of
the new file is even slightly smaller now.
Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the available
space better and looks "bigger".
I think you can see the difference here:
old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
regards, Matthias
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>> https
>>>> as default?
>>>>
>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>
>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>
>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>
>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>
>> regards, Matthias
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>
>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Homepage
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>
>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>
>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>>> link to
>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>
>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>
> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google needed a
> new verification code for that.
> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
> in index.html.
OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes? Or
does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't hurt
>>> either)
>>
>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>> belong there. ;-)
>
> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>
> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was already
> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link accordingly.
Yes, please.
>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail for
>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>>> clearer now.
>>
>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>> webpage request.
>
> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it there...
>
> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>
>>
>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking the
>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>
> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic. Homepage
> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>
> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
> homepage.
So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
"index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the given
path?
> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger favicon
needed?
Marcus
>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make https
>>> as default?
>>>
>>> (Some pages have problems
>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>> investigated in advance)
>>
>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>
> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>
>>
>> Thanks for taking care.
>>
>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>
>> Marcus
>
> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>
> regards, Matthias
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>
>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>
>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>> command
>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>
> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>
>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>> link to
>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>
> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google needed a
new verification code for that.
Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
in index.html.
>
>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't hurt
>> either)
>
> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
> belong there. ;-)
Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
html. It will never be used! ;-)
Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was already
one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link accordingly.
>
>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail for
>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>> clearer now.
>
> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
> webpage request.
As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it there...
But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>
> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking the
> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic. Homepage
is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
homepage.
If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>
>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>> without https as "unsafe".
>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make https
>> as default?
>>
>> (Some pages have problems
>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>> investigated in advance)
>
> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>
> Thanks for taking care.
>
> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>
> Marcus
That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
regards, Matthias
>
>
>
>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> I did it already,
>>>>
>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>
>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>> mess
>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>
>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>> command
>>>>> to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Homepage
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
thanks for your update. I've some questions:
> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed link to
> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't hurt either)
There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico". So,
please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs and
HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not belong
there. ;-)
> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail for
> the link to our homepage on YouTube
> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
> clearer now.
From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with some
Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every webpage
request.
Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking the
graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
> without https as "unsafe".
> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make https
> as default?
>
> (Some pages have problems
> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
> investigated in advance)
Hm, I don't see a problem here.
Thanks for taking care.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
Marcus
> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> I did it already,
>>>
>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>
>> great, thanks. :-)
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't mess
>>>>> with it)
>>>>
>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN command
>>>> to use?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
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Homepage
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
- Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed link to
https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
- Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't hurt either)
- Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail for
the link to our homepage on YouTube
- Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
clearer now.
BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
without https as "unsafe".
We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make https
as default?
(Some pages have problems
(https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
investigated in advance)
regards, Matthias
Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> I did it already,
>>
>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>
> great, thanks. :-)
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>
>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>
>>>> Download it from here:
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't mess
>>>> with it)
>>>
>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN command
>>> to use?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marcus
>
>
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