Re: Geronimo v2.2 discussion

[Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>]

Looks like discussion on this thread has died down a bit but the clock 
is still ticking ... New Years will be here all too soon and IIUC we're 
trying to beat that clock!!


Some things in addition to what you've listed (I'll update the wiki with 
these too):
- There are a number of snapshots still in use:
   - OpenEJB
   - Axis2
   - Axiom
   - xBean
   - wadi
   - j2ee-connector spec
   - jaspi spec
   - servlet spec
   - concurrent spec
   - geronimo jaspi component
   - XmlSchema
   - woden*
   - jspc-compiler
   - and various maven plugins.
   Some of these may be just as simple as using a released version but 
others may require that we get releases from these projects (or push 
releases of those that we control).  The latter will slow us down.  I'll 
start working on removing these.
- Genesis.  I see you've already upgraded to the newly released 1.5 ... 
but there's been some talk about Genesis 2.0.  I'm fine with 1.5 but if 
folks think we need 2.0 then we need to get moving on that.
- I guess we'll have to either release a number of the plugins again or 
figure out some compatibility solution as we did for 2.1.3+.  Ideally, 
we should think about compatibility ahead of time even if we find we 
need to release some (or all) of the plugins again.  I'm specifically 
thinking of samples, server-repo, daytrader, etc...  I don't think these 
need to be concurrent with 2.2 but we need to make sure we have a plan 
that doesn't require server changes before we release the 2.2 server.
- I'm a bit worried about the TCK implications (which you've already 
mentioned).  There will be a number of issues supporting Java SE6 as 
well as some issues that I know have been out there for a while.  I 
think it will make our life easier to focus exclusively on SE6.

I've been assuming all along that you are planning to be the release 
manager for 2.2 Donald.  Is that correct?  I can help as well if you 
want to share the burden (and if nobody objects).

Joe



Donald Woods wrote:
> OK, looks like we're making good progress towards a 2.2 release.
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxPMGT/Geronimo+2.2+Release+Roadmap 
> 
> 
> Is everyone still thinking we can get 2.2 out this year (say branching 
> on 11/21 with a mid-December release target)?
> 
> Seems that the major items left are:
>  - Upgrade to ActiveMQ 5.1/5.2
>  - EJB Portlet
>  - Use GShell for all commands (and upgrade to latest version)
>  - Include new TranQL connectors for Oracle RAC, MS SQL and Informix
>  - Remove the old Dojo 0.4.3 usage
>  - Portlets for Farm/Clustering support?
>  - TCK on Java SE 5 and 6 (or do we only certify on Java SE 6?)
> 
> 
> -Donald
> 
> 
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> We kinda started to have some discussion some time ago but couldn't 
>> find any hit on nabble so not sure were we left it.
>>
>> I added a Geronimo v2.2 Roadmap <../GMOxDEV/geronimo-v22-roadmap.html> 
>> page at the top of the Development section in the wiki front page, 
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/geronimo/ so we can resume the discussion and 
>> collect all our thoughts in one place. (edit access is limited to 
>> committers/contributors though)
>>
>> Does anybody already have a list?
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
> 

Re: Geronimo v2.2 discussion

[Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>]

Thanks for chiming in.  If you can start removing some of the snapshots, 
that would be great.

I hadn't volunteered to be the RM yet, as I'll only have about 2 days a 
week to focus on a 2.2 release and I don't have TCK access (which is 
going to be a major factor for when we can get 2.2 out), but if you're 
willing to help, I'd be glad to jump in and be co-release manager with you!

I'd like to see us drive towards cutting a 2.2 release branch by 
mid-December and having the 2.2 Server, GEP and updated Docs released by 
mid-January.



-Donald


Joe Bohn wrote:
> Looks like discussion on this thread has died down a bit but the clock 
> is still ticking ... New Years will be here all too soon and IIUC we're 
> trying to beat that clock!!
> 
> 
> Some things in addition to what you've listed (I'll update the wiki with 
> these too):
> - There are a number of snapshots still in use:
>   - OpenEJB
>   - Axis2
>   - Axiom
>   - xBean
>   - wadi
>   - j2ee-connector spec
>   - jaspi spec
>   - servlet spec
>   - concurrent spec
>   - geronimo jaspi component
>   - XmlSchema
>   - woden*
>   - jspc-compiler
>   - and various maven plugins.
>   Some of these may be just as simple as using a released version but 
> others may require that we get releases from these projects (or push 
> releases of those that we control).  The latter will slow us down.  I'll 
> start working on removing these.
> - Genesis.  I see you've already upgraded to the newly released 1.5 ... 
> but there's been some talk about Genesis 2.0.  I'm fine with 1.5 but if 
> folks think we need 2.0 then we need to get moving on that.
> - I guess we'll have to either release a number of the plugins again or 
> figure out some compatibility solution as we did for 2.1.3+.  Ideally, 
> we should think about compatibility ahead of time even if we find we 
> need to release some (or all) of the plugins again.  I'm specifically 
> thinking of samples, server-repo, daytrader, etc...  I don't think these 
> need to be concurrent with 2.2 but we need to make sure we have a plan 
> that doesn't require server changes before we release the 2.2 server.
> - I'm a bit worried about the TCK implications (which you've already 
> mentioned).  There will be a number of issues supporting Java SE6 as 
> well as some issues that I know have been out there for a while.  I 
> think it will make our life easier to focus exclusively on SE6.
> 
> I've been assuming all along that you are planning to be the release 
> manager for 2.2 Donald.  Is that correct?  I can help as well if you 
> want to share the burden (and if nobody objects).
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> Donald Woods wrote:
>> OK, looks like we're making good progress towards a 2.2 release.
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GMOxPMGT/Geronimo+2.2+Release+Roadmap 
>>
>>
>> Is everyone still thinking we can get 2.2 out this year (say branching 
>> on 11/21 with a mid-December release target)?
>>
>> Seems that the major items left are:
>>  - Upgrade to ActiveMQ 5.1/5.2
>>  - EJB Portlet
>>  - Use GShell for all commands (and upgrade to latest version)
>>  - Include new TranQL connectors for Oracle RAC, MS SQL and Informix
>>  - Remove the old Dojo 0.4.3 usage
>>  - Portlets for Farm/Clustering support?
>>  - TCK on Java SE 5 and 6 (or do we only certify on Java SE 6?)
>>
>>
>> -Donald
>>
>>
>> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> We kinda started to have some discussion some time ago but couldn't 
>>> find any hit on nabble so not sure were we left it.
>>>
>>> I added a Geronimo v2.2 Roadmap 
>>> <../GMOxDEV/geronimo-v22-roadmap.html> page at the top of the 
>>> Development section in the wiki front page, 
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/geronimo/ so we can resume the discussion and 
>>> collect all our thoughts in one place. (edit access is limited to 
>>> committers/contributors though)
>>>
>>> Does anybody already have a list?
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Hernan
>>>
>>
> 
>