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Struts2 Basic Questions
Hello,
>From reading about Struts2, I can see that it is a marriage of Struts
1.x and WebWork. Now WebWork actually consisted of 2 frameworks from
my understanding. WebWork framework for Web and underneath that was
XWork framework. Also, WebWork in 2.2 I believe was starting to use
Spring IOC for its inversion of control.
So I guess I would like to know is the following:
1) Does Struts2 use Springs IOC?
2) Does it use WebWork tags?
3) Is XWork still underneath the covers for its expression language?
Any input would help,
Thanks,
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Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
On 10/26/06, Jim Reynolds <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From reading about Struts2, I can see that it is a marriage of Struts
> 1.x and WebWork.
It's a marriage of the communities, but the codebase is the technical
equivalent of WebWork 2.3.
We've added a few new features, like wildcards and plugins, and new
interceptors, like Checkbox, and spruced up the documentation, but
Struts 2 is essentially WebWork 2.
The reason the migration is working well for us is because WW2 was
already very much like Struts, only better :)
-Ted.
> Now WebWork actually consisted of 2 frameworks from
> my understanding. WebWork framework for Web and underneath that was
> XWork framework. Also, WebWork in 2.2 I believe was starting to use
> Spring IOC for its inversion of control.
>
> So I guess I would like to know is the following:
> 1) Does Struts2 use Springs IOC?
> 2) Does it use WebWork tags?
> 3) Is XWork still underneath the covers for its expression language?
>
> Any input would help,
> Thanks,
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Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
The wiki's up now (thanks Don!)
But,
* http://cwiki.apache.org/WW/migration-guide.html
was also available throughout the outage. This link goes to the
real-time export of the wiki, which we prefer people refer to first,
for scalability reasons.
-Ted.
On 10/27/06, Wesslan <fo...@wesslan.se> wrote:
> The switch from Webwork 2.2 to Struts 2 is almost painless. Have a look at
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WW/Migration+Guide (seems to down
> for the moment) or http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=44773
> for the steps involved.
> I know/guess you haven't an application that uses Webwork yet but the guide
> above shows how similiar WW 2.2 and Struts 2 are.
>
> Hth,
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ted.husted@gmail.com [mailto:ted.husted@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ted
> Husted
> Sent: den 27 oktober 2006 14:57
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
>
> Yes.
>
> The exact changes between WW2 and S2 are detailed in the Struts 2.0.0
> release notes.
>
> -T.
>
> On 10/27/06, Jim Reynolds <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So basically not to beat a dead horse ...if I learn WebWork2 and get
> > through the WebWork in Action then I should easily be able to pick up
> > on Struts2 without much issue?
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RE: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Wesslan <fo...@wesslan.se>.
The switch from Webwork 2.2 to Struts 2 is almost painless. Have a look at
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WW/Migration+Guide (seems to down
for the moment) or http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=44773
for the steps involved.
I know/guess you haven't an application that uses Webwork yet but the guide
above shows how similiar WW 2.2 and Struts 2 are.
Hth,
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: ted.husted@gmail.com [mailto:ted.husted@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Husted
Sent: den 27 oktober 2006 14:57
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Yes.
The exact changes between WW2 and S2 are detailed in the Struts 2.0.0
release notes.
-T.
On 10/27/06, Jim Reynolds <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So basically not to beat a dead horse ...if I learn WebWork2 and get
> through the WebWork in Action then I should easily be able to pick up
> on Struts2 without much issue?
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Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Yes.
The exact changes between WW2 and S2 are detailed in the Struts 2.0.0
release notes.
-T.
On 10/27/06, Jim Reynolds <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So basically not to beat a dead horse ...if I learn WebWork2 and get
> through the WebWork in Action then I should easily be able to pick up
> on Struts2 without much issue?
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Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Jim Reynolds <ji...@gmail.com>.
So basically not to beat a dead horse ...if I learn WebWork2 and get
through the WebWork in Action then I should easily be able to pick up
on Struts2 without much issue?
On 10/26/06, Don Brown <do...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct on all accounts :)
>
> Don
>
> On 10/26/06, Mark Menard <ma...@mjm.net> wrote:
> > On 10/26/06 5:06 PM, "Jim Reynolds" <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From reading about Struts2, I can see that it is a marriage of Struts
> > > 1.x and WebWork. Now WebWork actually consisted of 2 frameworks from
> > > my understanding. WebWork framework for Web and underneath that was
> > > XWork framework. Also, WebWork in 2.2 I believe was starting to use
> > > Spring IOC for its inversion of control.
> > >
> > > So I guess I would like to know is the following:
> > > 1) Does Struts2 use Springs IOC?
> >
> > Yes, it can. I don't think it's required though. I have personally used it
> > since day one with Struts 2.
> >
> > > 2) Does it use WebWork tags?
> >
> > The s2 tags are derivatives of the ww tags. I've used the WebWork in Action
> > book to work my way through the tags, and so far have found no deviation.
> >
> > > 3) Is XWork still underneath the covers for its expression language?
> >
> > Xwork is still there, but I don't know that Xwork is the expression
> > language. It is my understanding that Xwork is an action framework around
> > which S2 is wrapped.
> >
> > Regarding the expression language... I think you're thinking of OGNL, which
> > I believe is separate from Xwork, but I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone
> > will straighten me out.
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Mark
> >
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Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Don Brown <do...@gmail.com>.
Correct on all accounts :)
Don
On 10/26/06, Mark Menard <ma...@mjm.net> wrote:
> On 10/26/06 5:06 PM, "Jim Reynolds" <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From reading about Struts2, I can see that it is a marriage of Struts
> > 1.x and WebWork. Now WebWork actually consisted of 2 frameworks from
> > my understanding. WebWork framework for Web and underneath that was
> > XWork framework. Also, WebWork in 2.2 I believe was starting to use
> > Spring IOC for its inversion of control.
> >
> > So I guess I would like to know is the following:
> > 1) Does Struts2 use Springs IOC?
>
> Yes, it can. I don't think it's required though. I have personally used it
> since day one with Struts 2.
>
> > 2) Does it use WebWork tags?
>
> The s2 tags are derivatives of the ww tags. I've used the WebWork in Action
> book to work my way through the tags, and so far have found no deviation.
>
> > 3) Is XWork still underneath the covers for its expression language?
>
> Xwork is still there, but I don't know that Xwork is the expression
> language. It is my understanding that Xwork is an action framework around
> which S2 is wrapped.
>
> Regarding the expression language... I think you're thinking of OGNL, which
> I believe is separate from Xwork, but I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone
> will straighten me out.
>
> Later,
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Struts2 Basic Questions
Posted by Mark Menard <ma...@mjm.net>.
On 10/26/06 5:06 PM, "Jim Reynolds" <ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From reading about Struts2, I can see that it is a marriage of Struts
> 1.x and WebWork. Now WebWork actually consisted of 2 frameworks from
> my understanding. WebWork framework for Web and underneath that was
> XWork framework. Also, WebWork in 2.2 I believe was starting to use
> Spring IOC for its inversion of control.
>
> So I guess I would like to know is the following:
> 1) Does Struts2 use Springs IOC?
Yes, it can. I don't think it's required though. I have personally used it
since day one with Struts 2.
> 2) Does it use WebWork tags?
The s2 tags are derivatives of the ww tags. I've used the WebWork in Action
book to work my way through the tags, and so far have found no deviation.
> 3) Is XWork still underneath the covers for its expression language?
Xwork is still there, but I don't know that Xwork is the expression
language. It is my understanding that Xwork is an action framework around
which S2 is wrapped.
Regarding the expression language... I think you're thinking of OGNL, which
I believe is separate from Xwork, but I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone
will straighten me out.
Later,
Mark
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