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Setting up james-testing
Hi,
We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server
running under the domain james-testing.de .
It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers,
so providing shell logins is definitively planned.
To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
particular should be configured concerning:
+ DNS
+ JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
+ java runtime properties/diagnostics
+ James Server config
+ Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
configuration into svn.
Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de,
or whatever we come up with.
WDYT?
Bernd
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Re: Setting up james-testing
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Bernd Fondermann schrieb:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 23:48, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Burrell Donkin schrieb:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
>>>>> will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server
>>>>> running
>>>>> under the domain james-testing.de .
>>>>>
>>>>> It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
>>>>> off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
>>>>> Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
>>>>>
>>>>> I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers,
>>>>> so
>>>>> providing shell logins is definitively planned.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
>>>>> particular should be configured concerning:
>>>>>
>>>>> + DNS
>>>>> + JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
>>>>> + java runtime properties/diagnostics
>>>>> + James Server config
>>>>> + Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
>>>>> Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
>>>>> configuration into svn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
>>>>> conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de, or
>>>>> whatever we come up with.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> sounds great :-)
>>>>
>>>> i would recommend not running IMAP ATM
>>>>
>>>> - robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why not just requesting a zone for it ? I think hosting this on ASF Hardware
>>> is preferable ..
>>> I can handle the zone creation for us. Does it work for the others ?
>>>
>> having a zone would be great
>>
>
> +1
>
> but additional resources won't hurt either.
>
>
>> having a box on non-ASF hardware would also be useful for honey trapping
>>
>
> yes, or more experimental setups.
>
> But I am all +1 for the zone.
>
> Bernd
Ok, I created the the "task" to keep track of it:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1725
I hope I will have the time to take care the next days.
Cheers,
Norman
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Re: Setting up james-testing
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Bernd Fondermann
<be...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 23:48, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Robert Burrell Donkin schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
>>>>> will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server
>>>>> running
>>>>> under the domain james-testing.de .
>>>>>
>>>>> It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
>>>>> off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
>>>>> Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
>>>>>
>>>>> I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers,
>>>>> so
>>>>> providing shell logins is definitively planned.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
>>>>> particular should be configured concerning:
>>>>>
>>>>> + DNS
>>>>> + JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
>>>>> + java runtime properties/diagnostics
>>>>> + James Server config
>>>>> + Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
>>>>> Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
>>>>> configuration into svn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
>>>>> conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de, or
>>>>> whatever we come up with.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sounds great :-)
>>>>
>>>> i would recommend not running IMAP ATM
>>>>
>>>> - robert
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not just requesting a zone for it ? I think hosting this on ASF Hardware
>>> is preferable ..
>>> I can handle the zone creation for us. Does it work for the others ?
>>
>> having a zone would be great
>
> +1
>
> but additional resources won't hurt either.
+1
>> having a box on non-ASF hardware would also be useful for honey trapping
>
> yes, or more experimental setups.
+1
i would like to see the apache zone targetted at verifying the JAMES
server product 3.0 as it's intended to be shipped.
> But I am all +1 for the zone.
+1
- robert
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Re: Setting up james-testing
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 23:48, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Robert Burrell Donkin schrieb:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
>>>> will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
>>>>
>>>> I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server
>>>> running
>>>> under the domain james-testing.de .
>>>>
>>>> It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
>>>> off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
>>>> Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
>>>>
>>>> I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers,
>>>> so
>>>> providing shell logins is definitively planned.
>>>>
>>>> To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
>>>> particular should be configured concerning:
>>>>
>>>> + DNS
>>>> + JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
>>>> + java runtime properties/diagnostics
>>>> + James Server config
>>>> + Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
>>>> Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
>>>>
>>>> If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
>>>> configuration into svn.
>>>>
>>>> Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
>>>> conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de, or
>>>> whatever we come up with.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>
>>> sounds great :-)
>>>
>>> i would recommend not running IMAP ATM
>>>
>>> - robert
>>>
>>
>> Why not just requesting a zone for it ? I think hosting this on ASF Hardware
>> is preferable ..
>> I can handle the zone creation for us. Does it work for the others ?
>
> having a zone would be great
+1
but additional resources won't hurt either.
>
> having a box on non-ASF hardware would also be useful for honey trapping
yes, or more experimental setups.
But I am all +1 for the zone.
Bernd
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Re: Setting up james-testing
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin schrieb:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
>>> will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
>>>
>>> I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server
>>> running
>>> under the domain james-testing.de .
>>>
>>> It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
>>> off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
>>> Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
>>>
>>> I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers,
>>> so
>>> providing shell logins is definitively planned.
>>>
>>> To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
>>> particular should be configured concerning:
>>>
>>> + DNS
>>> + JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
>>> + java runtime properties/diagnostics
>>> + James Server config
>>> + Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
>>> Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
>>>
>>> If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
>>> configuration into svn.
>>>
>>> Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
>>> conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de, or
>>> whatever we come up with.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>
>> sounds great :-)
>>
>> i would recommend not running IMAP ATM
>>
>> - robert
>>
>
> Why not just requesting a zone for it ? I think hosting this on ASF Hardware
> is preferable ..
> I can handle the zone creation for us. Does it work for the others ?
having a zone would be great
having a box on non-ASF hardware would also be useful for honey trapping
- robert
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Re: Setting up james-testing
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Robert Burrell Donkin schrieb:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
>> will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
>>
>> I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server running
>> under the domain james-testing.de .
>>
>> It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
>> off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
>> Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
>>
>> I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers, so
>> providing shell logins is definitively planned.
>>
>> To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
>> particular should be configured concerning:
>>
>> + DNS
>> + JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
>> + java runtime properties/diagnostics
>> + James Server config
>> + Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
>> Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
>>
>> If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
>> configuration into svn.
>>
>> Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
>> conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de, or
>> whatever we come up with.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>
> sounds great :-)
>
> i would recommend not running IMAP ATM
>
> - robert
>
Why not just requesting a zone for it ? I think hosting this on ASF
Hardware is preferable ..
I can handle the zone creation for us. Does it work for the others ?
Cheers,
Norman
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Re: Setting up james-testing
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We need to start eating our own dogfood, at least kind of. Otherwise, we
> will never release any Mail Server again. :-) Soooo...
>
> I am planning to set up a dedicated server for testing James Server running
> under the domain james-testing.de .
>
> It will be a virtual server with nothing else running than a current
> off-the-trunk spring-deployment-flavored James. The OS will probably be
> Debian Etch, heap will be under 1 GB (sorry for that).
>
> I want this server to be accessible by all interested Server committers, so
> providing shell logins is definitively planned.
>
> To make this right, I need your input about how the Server and James in
> particular should be configured concerning:
>
> + DNS
> + JDK (1.6? Harmony?)
> + java runtime properties/diagnostics
> + James Server config
> + Server Backend (dbfile or something else?)
> Note: I am not a big mySql fan, but could run it regardlessly
>
> If this is all going well and nobody objects, I would check the
> configuration into svn.
>
> Then, when at some point we get a zone at the ASF, we could run a more
> conservative setup there and an alternative setup on james-testing.de, or
> whatever we come up with.
>
> WDYT?
sounds great :-)
i would recommend not running IMAP ATM
- robert
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