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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com> on 2013/02/06 13:39:53 UTC

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Just a quick notice: I have added a screenshots
of available Designer Tools for Apache Flex. If you
have any remarks for improvement, please et me know!


-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample



On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'd say, this "Convert Flash-Symbol to Flex Component" in Flash Pro
> is one more way to create an interactive GUI for Flex, and, that is what
> the guys in the Apache Flex Group [1] have asked for.
>
> I am open for recommendations how to structure this wiki page [2], but,
> this functionality should be mentioned somewhere. I am also planning to
> add
> a few screenshots of these mentioned functionalities, so that Flex newbies
> get a better overview. Would this be ok for you?
>
> -Sebastian
>
> [1]
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't say that you can make Flex applications with it though.  It is
>> no more a tool to make basic components (or skins) than Illustrator.
>>
>> Maybe it is worthy of a separate category?
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Good news ...
>> >
>> > Found a video answering the question [1] (see video 6m:45s). In Flash
>> Pro
>> > CS6,
>> > Flash symbols can still be converted to Flex Components and Flex
>> Containers
>> > :)
>> > Will mention that on the wiki page, shortly.
>> >
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-flash-professional-cs6-/the-main-menu-bar/
>> >
>> >
>> > Sincerely yours,
>> >
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
>> flex.masuland@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > @Nick ... Thanks for asking! With Adobe Flash Pro CS5.5
>> > > you can generate Flex Components and Flex Containers based
>> > > on UIMovieClip [1] and import them as SWC files into your Flex
>> > > projects. I am not sure if Adobe Flash Pro CS6 still supports that.
>> > > I will check that ...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely Yours,
>> > >
>> > > Sebastian
>> > >
>> > > [1]
>> > >
>> >
>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/mx/flash/UIMovieClip.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>> nicholas@spoon.as
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adobe Flash Pro CS5/5.5/6
>> > >> support Apache Flex at all...
>> > >>
>> > >> You can use SWF files created with it, but I don't think you can make
>> > Flex
>> > >> apps with it...
>> > >>
>> > >> -Nick
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
>> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi there,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Some people are concerned in regards of tooling
>> > >> > support for Apache Flex [1]. Therefore, I have created
>> > >> > a wiki page [2] that should list all these tools currently
>> > >> > supporting Apache Flex. It would great if you could
>> > >> > run over this list and add those tools that I have missed
>> > >> > out so far.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Furthermore, a wiki question ... For some reason, I could
>> > >> > not manage to create readable url for this wiki page [2].
>> > >> > Instead, what I got is this:
>> > >> > pageId=30749573<
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>> > >> > >.
>> > >> > Do you
>> > >> > know how to change that?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks,
>> > >> > Sebastian
>> > >> >
>> > >> > [1]
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
>> > >> > [2]
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

RE: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
   It's an interesting plugin for Visual Studios, but it doesn't work with the express version.  If you can managed to get it working on an express version I would be interested knowing how you did it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Frédéric THOMAS [mailto:webdoublefx@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:36 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page


Hi Sebastien,

I haven't seen amethyst [1], did I/you miss it ?

[1] http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Products/amethyst-ide/article/amethyst-product-page

Frédéric THOMAS

> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:47:23 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page
> From: flex.masuland@gmail.com
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> 
> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> welcome :)
> 
> -- 
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
> 
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> 
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Just a quick notice: I have added a screenshots
> > of available Designer Tools for Apache Flex. If you
> > have any remarks for improvement, please et me know!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > Interaction Designer
> >
> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I'd say, this "Convert Flash-Symbol to Flex Component" in Flash Pro
> >> is one more way to create an interactive GUI for Flex, and, that is what
> >> the guys in the Apache Flex Group [1] have asked for.
> >>
> >> I am open for recommendations how to structure this wiki page [2], but,
> >> this functionality should be mentioned somewhere. I am also planning to
> >> add
> >> a few screenshots of these mentioned functionalities, so that Flex
> >> newbies
> >> get a better overview. Would this be ok for you?
> >>
> >> -Sebastian
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> >> [2]
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wouldn't say that you can make Flex applications with it though.  It is
> >>> no more a tool to make basic components (or skins) than Illustrator.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it is worthy of a separate category?
> >>>
> >>> -Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Good news ...
> >>> >
> >>> > Found a video answering the question [1] (see video 6m:45s). In Flash
> >>> Pro
> >>> > CS6,
> >>> > Flash symbols can still be converted to Flex Components and Flex
> >>> Containers
> >>> > :)
> >>> > Will mention that on the wiki page, shortly.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > [1]
> >>> >
> >>> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-flash-professional-cs6-/the-main-menu-bar/
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sincerely yours,
> >>> >
> >>> > Sebastian
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> >>> flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >>> > >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > @Nick ... Thanks for asking! With Adobe Flash Pro CS5.5
> >>> > > you can generate Flex Components and Flex Containers based
> >>> > > on UIMovieClip [1] and import them as SWC files into your Flex
> >>> > > projects. I am not sure if Adobe Flash Pro CS6 still supports that.
> >>> > > I will check that ...
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sincerely Yours,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sebastian
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [1]
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/mx/flash/UIMovieClip.html
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >>> nicholas@spoon.as
> >>> > >wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adobe Flash Pro CS5/5.5/6
> >>> > >> support Apache Flex at all...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> You can use SWF files created with it, but I don't think you can
> >>> make
> >>> > Flex
> >>> > >> apps with it...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> -Nick
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> >>> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >>> > >> >wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > Hi there,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Some people are concerned in regards of tooling
> >>> > >> > support for Apache Flex [1]. Therefore, I have created
> >>> > >> > a wiki page [2] that should list all these tools currently
> >>> > >> > supporting Apache Flex. It would great if you could
> >>> > >> > run over this list and add those tools that I have missed
> >>> > >> > out so far.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Furthermore, a wiki question ... For some reason, I could
> >>> > >> > not manage to create readable url for this wiki page [2].
> >>> > >> > Instead, what I got is this:
> >>> > >> > pageId=30749573<
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >>> > >> > >.
> >>> > >> > Do you
> >>> > >> > know how to change that?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Thanks,
> >>> > >> > Sebastian
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > [1]
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> >>> > >> > [2]
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
 		 	   		  

RE: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
There are plenty of screenshots on their page (the link in my previous post), personally, I don't use it, I knew it is good, that's it, enough to be mentioned :)

Frédéric THOMAS

> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:07:30 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page
> From: flex.masuland@gmail.com
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> 
> @Frédéric thanks,
> 
> Didn't know of that IDE before. I am Mac user :) If you could send me
> a few screenshot so that I can add them to our project wiki, this would
> be great ... especially about their Design View.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
> 
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi Sebastien,
> >
> > I haven't seen amethyst [1], did I/you miss it ?
> >
> > [1]
> > http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Products/amethyst-ide/article/amethyst-product-page
> >
> > Frédéric THOMAS
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:47:23 +0100
> > > Subject: Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page
> > > From: flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > >
> > > Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > > Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > > welcome :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > > Interaction Designer
> > >
> > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just a quick notice: I have added a screenshots
> > > > of available Designer Tools for Apache Flex. If you
> > > > have any remarks for improvement, please et me know!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > > > Interaction Designer
> > > >
> > > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
> > code:
> > > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > flex.masuland@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'd say, this "Convert Flash-Symbol to Flex Component" in Flash Pro
> > > >> is one more way to create an interactive GUI for Flex, and, that is
> > what
> > > >> the guys in the Apache Flex Group [1] have asked for.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am open for recommendations how to structure this wiki page [2],
> > but,
> > > >> this functionality should be mentioned somewhere. I am also planning
> > to
> > > >> add
> > > >> a few screenshots of these mentioned functionalities, so that Flex
> > > >> newbies
> > > >> get a better overview. Would this be ok for you?
> > > >>
> > > >> -Sebastian
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]
> > > >>
> > http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> > > >> [2]
> > > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > nicholas@spoon.as>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I wouldn't say that you can make Flex applications with it though.
> >  It is
> > > >>> no more a tool to make basic components (or skins) than Illustrator.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Maybe it is worthy of a separate category?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Nick
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > >>> >wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Good news ...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Found a video answering the question [1] (see video 6m:45s). In
> > Flash
> > > >>> Pro
> > > >>> > CS6,
> > > >>> > Flash symbols can still be converted to Flex Components and Flex
> > > >>> Containers
> > > >>> > :)
> > > >>> > Will mention that on the wiki page, shortly.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > [1]
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-flash-professional-cs6-/the-main-menu-bar/
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Sincerely yours,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Sebastian
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > > >>> flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > >>> > >wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > @Nick ... Thanks for asking! With Adobe Flash Pro CS5.5
> > > >>> > > you can generate Flex Components and Flex Containers based
> > > >>> > > on UIMovieClip [1] and import them as SWC files into your Flex
> > > >>> > > projects. I am not sure if Adobe Flash Pro CS6 still supports
> > that.
> > > >>> > > I will check that ...
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Sincerely Yours,
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Sebastian
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > [1]
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/mx/flash/UIMovieClip.html
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > > >>> nicholas@spoon.as
> > > >>> > >wrote:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adobe Flash Pro
> > CS5/5.5/6
> > > >>> > >> support Apache Flex at all...
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> You can use SWF files created with it, but I don't think you can
> > > >>> make
> > > >>> > Flex
> > > >>> > >> apps with it...
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> -Nick
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > > >>> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > >>> > >> >wrote:
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> > Hi there,
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > Some people are concerned in regards of tooling
> > > >>> > >> > support for Apache Flex [1]. Therefore, I have created
> > > >>> > >> > a wiki page [2] that should list all these tools currently
> > > >>> > >> > supporting Apache Flex. It would great if you could
> > > >>> > >> > run over this list and add those tools that I have missed
> > > >>> > >> > out so far.
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > Furthermore, a wiki question ... For some reason, I could
> > > >>> > >> > not manage to create readable url for this wiki page [2].
> > > >>> > >> > Instead, what I got is this:
> > > >>> > >> > pageId=30749573<
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > > >>> > >> > >.
> > > >>> > >> > Do you
> > > >>> > >> > know how to change that?
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > Thanks,
> > > >>> > >> > Sebastian
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > [1]
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> > > >>> > >> > [2]
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> >
> >
 		 	   		  

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
@Frédéric thanks,

Didn't know of that IDE before. I am Mac user :) If you could send me
a few screenshot so that I can add them to our project wiki, this would
be great ... especially about their Design View.


-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample



On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hi Sebastien,
>
> I haven't seen amethyst [1], did I/you miss it ?
>
> [1]
> http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Products/amethyst-ide/article/amethyst-product-page
>
> Frédéric THOMAS
>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:47:23 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page
> > From: flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >
> > Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > welcome :)
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > Interaction Designer
> >
> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Just a quick notice: I have added a screenshots
> > > of available Designer Tools for Apache Flex. If you
> > > have any remarks for improvement, please et me know!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > > Interaction Designer
> > >
> > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
> code:
> > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> flex.masuland@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'd say, this "Convert Flash-Symbol to Flex Component" in Flash Pro
> > >> is one more way to create an interactive GUI for Flex, and, that is
> what
> > >> the guys in the Apache Flex Group [1] have asked for.
> > >>
> > >> I am open for recommendations how to structure this wiki page [2],
> but,
> > >> this functionality should be mentioned somewhere. I am also planning
> to
> > >> add
> > >> a few screenshots of these mentioned functionalities, so that Flex
> > >> newbies
> > >> get a better overview. Would this be ok for you?
> > >>
> > >> -Sebastian
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> > >> [2]
> > >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> nicholas@spoon.as>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I wouldn't say that you can make Flex applications with it though.
>  It is
> > >>> no more a tool to make basic components (or skins) than Illustrator.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe it is worthy of a separate category?
> > >>>
> > >>> -Nick
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > >>> >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Good news ...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Found a video answering the question [1] (see video 6m:45s). In
> Flash
> > >>> Pro
> > >>> > CS6,
> > >>> > Flash symbols can still be converted to Flex Components and Flex
> > >>> Containers
> > >>> > :)
> > >>> > Will mention that on the wiki page, shortly.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > [1]
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-flash-professional-cs6-/the-main-menu-bar/
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Sincerely yours,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Sebastian
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > >>> flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > >>> > >wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > @Nick ... Thanks for asking! With Adobe Flash Pro CS5.5
> > >>> > > you can generate Flex Components and Flex Containers based
> > >>> > > on UIMovieClip [1] and import them as SWC files into your Flex
> > >>> > > projects. I am not sure if Adobe Flash Pro CS6 still supports
> that.
> > >>> > > I will check that ...
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Sincerely Yours,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Sebastian
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > [1]
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/mx/flash/UIMovieClip.html
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> > >>> nicholas@spoon.as
> > >>> > >wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adobe Flash Pro
> CS5/5.5/6
> > >>> > >> support Apache Flex at all...
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> You can use SWF files created with it, but I don't think you can
> > >>> make
> > >>> > Flex
> > >>> > >> apps with it...
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> -Nick
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> > >>> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > >>> > >> >wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> > Hi there,
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Some people are concerned in regards of tooling
> > >>> > >> > support for Apache Flex [1]. Therefore, I have created
> > >>> > >> > a wiki page [2] that should list all these tools currently
> > >>> > >> > supporting Apache Flex. It would great if you could
> > >>> > >> > run over this list and add those tools that I have missed
> > >>> > >> > out so far.
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Furthermore, a wiki question ... For some reason, I could
> > >>> > >> > not manage to create readable url for this wiki page [2].
> > >>> > >> > Instead, what I got is this:
> > >>> > >> > pageId=30749573<
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > >>> > >> > >.
> > >>> > >> > Do you
> > >>> > >> > know how to change that?
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Thanks,
> > >>> > >> > Sebastian
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > [1]
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> > >>> > >> > [2]
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
>
>

RE: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Hi Sebastien,

I haven't seen amethyst [1], did I/you miss it ?

[1] http://www.sapphiresteel.com/Products/amethyst-ide/article/amethyst-product-page

Frédéric THOMAS

> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:47:23 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page
> From: flex.masuland@gmail.com
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> 
> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> welcome :)
> 
> -- 
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
> 
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> 
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Just a quick notice: I have added a screenshots
> > of available Designer Tools for Apache Flex. If you
> > have any remarks for improvement, please et me know!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > Interaction Designer
> >
> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I'd say, this "Convert Flash-Symbol to Flex Component" in Flash Pro
> >> is one more way to create an interactive GUI for Flex, and, that is what
> >> the guys in the Apache Flex Group [1] have asked for.
> >>
> >> I am open for recommendations how to structure this wiki page [2], but,
> >> this functionality should be mentioned somewhere. I am also planning to
> >> add
> >> a few screenshots of these mentioned functionalities, so that Flex
> >> newbies
> >> get a better overview. Would this be ok for you?
> >>
> >> -Sebastian
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> >> [2]
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wouldn't say that you can make Flex applications with it though.  It is
> >>> no more a tool to make basic components (or skins) than Illustrator.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it is worthy of a separate category?
> >>>
> >>> -Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Good news ...
> >>> >
> >>> > Found a video answering the question [1] (see video 6m:45s). In Flash
> >>> Pro
> >>> > CS6,
> >>> > Flash symbols can still be converted to Flex Components and Flex
> >>> Containers
> >>> > :)
> >>> > Will mention that on the wiki page, shortly.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > [1]
> >>> >
> >>> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-flash-professional-cs6-/the-main-menu-bar/
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sincerely yours,
> >>> >
> >>> > Sebastian
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> >>> flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >>> > >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > @Nick ... Thanks for asking! With Adobe Flash Pro CS5.5
> >>> > > you can generate Flex Components and Flex Containers based
> >>> > > on UIMovieClip [1] and import them as SWC files into your Flex
> >>> > > projects. I am not sure if Adobe Flash Pro CS6 still supports that.
> >>> > > I will check that ...
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sincerely Yours,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sebastian
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [1]
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/mx/flash/UIMovieClip.html
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >>> nicholas@spoon.as
> >>> > >wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adobe Flash Pro CS5/5.5/6
> >>> > >> support Apache Flex at all...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> You can use SWF files created with it, but I don't think you can
> >>> make
> >>> > Flex
> >>> > >> apps with it...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> -Nick
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
> >>> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >>> > >> >wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > Hi there,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Some people are concerned in regards of tooling
> >>> > >> > support for Apache Flex [1]. Therefore, I have created
> >>> > >> > a wiki page [2] that should list all these tools currently
> >>> > >> > supporting Apache Flex. It would great if you could
> >>> > >> > run over this list and add those tools that I have missed
> >>> > >> > out so far.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Furthermore, a wiki question ... For some reason, I could
> >>> > >> > not manage to create readable url for this wiki page [2].
> >>> > >> > Instead, what I got is this:
> >>> > >> > pageId=30749573<
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >>> > >> > >.
> >>> > >> > Do you
> >>> > >> > know how to change that?
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Thanks,
> >>> > >> > Sebastian
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > [1]
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
> >>> > >> > [2]
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
 		 	   		  

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
@WikiAdmin ... I forgot to mention that, the wrong wiki url [1] will be
called from the left sitebar [2]. How can I change that wrong behaviour
in the sidebar so that the correct url [3] will be called there?

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX
[3]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools



On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Who is our Wiki-Admin? I have a wiki question for her/him:
> For some reason, I still could not manage to create readable url
> like [1] for this wiki page [2]. Instead, what I got is this:
> pageId=30749573<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573>
> .
> Do you (Admin) know how to change that? Thank you!
>
>
> --
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
>
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian (PPMC)
>> Interaction Designer
>>
>> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
>> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
>>>> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
>>>> welcome :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

Who is our Wiki-Admin? I have a wiki question for her/him:
For some reason, I still could not manage to create readable url
like [1] for this wiki page [2]. Instead, what I got is this:
pageId=30749573<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573>
.
Do you (Admin) know how to change that? Thank you!


-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573




On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
>
> --
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
>
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
>>> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
>>> welcome :)
>>>
>>
>> FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I have added two more design tools to our
"Designer & Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ...

1) Adobe Illustrator CS5.5 & CS6
  * Save Artboard to FXG file

2) Radiate - Flex Designer GUI (Thanks to ... @jude)
  * About Radiate, http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2
  * Radiate Demo, http://www.radii8.com/demo/

If you are aware of any other designer & developer tools please let me know.

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools


-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:45 AM, jude <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you mean in those tools? You would have to edit the Flash Catalyst
> workspace files. The last half of this
> post<
> http://www.judahfrangipane.com/blog/2010/09/03/flash-catalyst-jailbreak-for-flex-developers/
> >describes
> that workflow although it's not ideal. Or do you mean in a design
> tool like the one I'm working on? I haven't got to that point yet but there
> are a couple of approaches I would take.
>
> The first is to go into a skin editing mode when you double click on a
> component. It's similar to how FC works. Any states or skin parts would
> show up in a panel. You could then add new states or skin parts. If you
> added either you would have a choice to modify the existing component (if
> possible) or create or extend to a new component. There are open source
> libraries out there that allow you create new AS3 classes at run time. I'm
> not sure if they support metadata yet but I can't see why that information
> can't be added.
>
> Part of plan is to let the developer use their IDE of choice to create the
> components and application logic. They would then load the SWF control
> library at runtime and then wire up the components and events, if that
> makes sense. They could continue to upload new SWF's and the updated
> components and application would just be reloaded. So you would create and
> modify the skinnable component with FB for example, and when that compiled
> you'd hit refresh on radiate and that component would be pulled in and show
> the new skin parts and skin states. BTW the application logic would or
> could be wrapped up in neat packages to be applied to any component
> anywhere.
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > @Jude ... thanks for sharing this,
> >
> > Any ideas how to implement the roundtrip of custom SkinnableComponents
> > with declared [SkinPart] and [SkinState] tags as shown in screenshots
> > of FlashCatalyst and FlashBuilder [1] and the small LoginExample.fxp
> > project [2]?
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30749573/LoginExample.fxp?version=1&modificationDate=1360161322000
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > Interaction Designer
> >
> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM, jude <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it
> out
> > > there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers
> and
> > > developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with
> > adequate
> > > design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no
> > development.
> > > If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived
> > close
> > > to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would
> add
> > in
> > > some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a
> > design
> > > or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and
> > in
> > > the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.
> > >
> > > This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
> > > http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and
> > it
> > > grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
> > > recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype
> (and
> > > it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
> > > panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree
> structure
> > > as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
> > > properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo
> > and
> > > a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.
> > >
> > > What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and
> > play
> > > effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
> > > outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some
> of
> > > these features in this drop in class now,
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as
> > > .
> > > I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options
> > and
> > > at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are
> here,
> > > http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.
> > >
> > > If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed
> > things,
> > > "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work
> > towards
> > > that". That.
> > > *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
> flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > > > Interaction Designer
> > > >
> > > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
> > code:
> > > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <
> paul.hastings@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > > > >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > > > >> welcome :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by jude <fl...@gmail.com>.
Do you mean in those tools? You would have to edit the Flash Catalyst
workspace files. The last half of this
post<http://www.judahfrangipane.com/blog/2010/09/03/flash-catalyst-jailbreak-for-flex-developers/>describes
that workflow although it's not ideal. Or do you mean in a design
tool like the one I'm working on? I haven't got to that point yet but there
are a couple of approaches I would take.

The first is to go into a skin editing mode when you double click on a
component. It's similar to how FC works. Any states or skin parts would
show up in a panel. You could then add new states or skin parts. If you
added either you would have a choice to modify the existing component (if
possible) or create or extend to a new component. There are open source
libraries out there that allow you create new AS3 classes at run time. I'm
not sure if they support metadata yet but I can't see why that information
can't be added.

Part of plan is to let the developer use their IDE of choice to create the
components and application logic. They would then load the SWF control
library at runtime and then wire up the components and events, if that
makes sense. They could continue to upload new SWF's and the updated
components and application would just be reloaded. So you would create and
modify the skinnable component with FB for example, and when that compiled
you'd hit refresh on radiate and that component would be pulled in and show
the new skin parts and skin states. BTW the application logic would or
could be wrapped up in neat packages to be applied to any component
anywhere.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> @Jude ... thanks for sharing this,
>
> Any ideas how to implement the roundtrip of custom SkinnableComponents
> with declared [SkinPart] and [SkinState] tags as shown in screenshots
> of FlashCatalyst and FlashBuilder [1] and the small LoginExample.fxp
> project [2]?
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools
> [2]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30749573/LoginExample.fxp?version=1&modificationDate=1360161322000
>
>
> --
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
>
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM, jude <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it out
> > there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers and
> > developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with
> adequate
> > design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no
> development.
> > If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived
> close
> > to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would add
> in
> > some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a
> design
> > or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and
> in
> > the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.
> >
> > This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
> > http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and
> it
> > grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
> > recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype (and
> > it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
> > panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree structure
> > as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
> > properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo
> and
> > a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.
> >
> > What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and
> play
> > effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
> > outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some of
> > these features in this drop in class now,
> >
> >
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as
> > .
> > I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options
> and
> > at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are here,
> > http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.
> >
> > If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed
> things,
> > "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work
> towards
> > that". That.
> > *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > > Interaction Designer
> > >
> > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
> code:
> > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <paul.hastings@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > > >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > > >> welcome :)
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
@Jude ... thanks for sharing this,

Any ideas how to implement the roundtrip of custom SkinnableComponents
with declared [SkinPart] and [SkinState] tags as shown in screenshots
of FlashCatalyst and FlashBuilder [1] and the small LoginExample.fxp
project [2]?

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Designer+&+Developer+Tools
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30749573/LoginExample.fxp?version=1&modificationDate=1360161322000


-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM, jude <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it out
> there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers and
> developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with adequate
> design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no development.
> If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived close
> to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would add in
> some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a design
> or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and in
> the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.
>
> This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
> http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and it
> grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
> recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype (and
> it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
> panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree structure
> as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
> properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo and
> a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.
>
> What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and play
> effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
> outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some of
> these features in this drop in class now,
>
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as
> .
> I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options and
> at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are here,
> http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.
>
> If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed things,
> "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work towards
> that". That.
> *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > Interaction Designer
> >
> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <paul.hastings@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > >> welcome :)
> > >>
> > >
> > > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by jude <fl...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, I've been under the weather the last few days. I've thought about
integrating parts of it in. It really depends on how their plugin system
works and how far they are on their design tool.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:

> Jude,
>
> That tool is amazing so far.  Great work!   Any thoughts on talking to the
> JetBrains guys to see if you can help get it packaged into IDEA?  They've
> been trying to work on a tool similar to what you got, but they are light
> years behind at this point..  They've got the coding side down pat, they
> just don't have anything usable in the visual side yet.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:03 AM, jude <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it out
> > there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers and
> > developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with
> adequate
> > design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no
> development.
> > If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived
> close
> > to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would add
> in
> > some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a
> design
> > or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and
> in
> > the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.
> >
> > This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
> > http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and
> it
> > grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
> > recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype (and
> > it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
> > panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree structure
> > as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
> > properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo
> and
> > a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.
> >
> > What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and
> play
> > effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
> > outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some of
> > these features in this drop in class now,
> >
> >
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as
> > .
> > I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options
> and
> > at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are here,
> > http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.
> >
> > If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed
> things,
> > "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work
> towards
> > that". That.
> > *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > > Interaction Designer
> > >
> > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this
> code:
> > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <paul.hastings@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > > >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > > >> welcome :)
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Jude,

That tool is amazing so far.  Great work!   Any thoughts on talking to the
JetBrains guys to see if you can help get it packaged into IDEA?  They've
been trying to work on a tool similar to what you got, but they are light
years behind at this point..  They've got the coding side down pat, they
just don't have anything usable in the visual side yet.

-Nick

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:03 AM, jude <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it out
> there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers and
> developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with adequate
> design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no development.
> If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived close
> to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would add in
> some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a design
> or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and in
> the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.
>
> This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
> http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and it
> grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
> recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype (and
> it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
> panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree structure
> as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
> properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo and
> a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.
>
> What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and play
> effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
> outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some of
> these features in this drop in class now,
>
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as
> .
> I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options and
> at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are here,
> http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.
>
> If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed things,
> "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work towards
> that". That.
> *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian (PPMC)
> > Interaction Designer
> >
> > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <paul.hastings@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> > >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> > >> welcome :)
> > >>
> > >
> > > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Harbs <ga...@gmail.com>.
I can say It's a very cool start!

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:03 AM, jude wrote:

> I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it out
> there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers and
> developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with adequate
> design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no development.
> If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived close
> to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would add in
> some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a design
> or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and in
> the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.
> 
> This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
> http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and it
> grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
> recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype (and
> it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
> panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree structure
> as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
> properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo and
> a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.
> 
> What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and play
> effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
> outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some of
> these features in this drop in class now,
> https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as.
> I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options and
> at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are here,
> http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.
> 
> If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed things,
> "First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work towards
> that". That.
> *I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
>> 
>> --
>> Sebastian (PPMC)
>> Interaction Designer
>> 
>> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
>> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <paul.hastings@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
>>>> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
>>>> welcome :)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by jude <fl...@gmail.com>.
I've kindof been sitting on this for a while but I thought I'd put it out
there. I'd like to create a design and development tool for designers and
developers. Usually, you have a really good development tool with adequate
design tools or a really good design tool with adequate or no development.
If Flash Catalyst and FB had continued I'm sure it would have arrived close
to the tool I'd like to build and use. I'd say close because I would add in
some things like behaviors and other things that may not fit into a design
or development only product but would make sense in a combined tool and in
the context of the workflow of daily design and development work.

This is a little demo I think I shared at one point,
http://www.radii8.com/demo/. I've been working on this for a while and it
grew mainly out of the need to see what a change looked like without
recompiling (and for other reasons obviously). It's just a prototype (and
it's breakable). Click New Project. Drag components from the components
panel on to the stage. Set properties. Notice the document tree structure
as it's being built in the document panel. Scroll down and you'll see a
properties panel, constraint panel, a history panel with undo and redo and
a few others. It's no where near where I want it to be.

What's not shown but partially working is a timeline view (to view and play
effects), get color under mouse, console, walk up the component tree
outline view and style inheritance information view. You can use some of
these features in this drop in class now,
https://github.com/monkeypunch3/flexcapacitor/blob/master/MainLibrary/src/com/flexcapacitor/utils/MiniInspector.as.
I use this class everyday. Add it to your application, set the options and
at runtime command click on a visual element. More of my hopes are here,
http://www.radii8.com/blog/?page_id=2.

If I could summarize what Polygeek said when asked how he designed things,
"First I think of how I'd like it in a perfect world and then work towards
that". That.
*I think that's right. Correct me if I'm wrong.

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.
>
> --
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
>
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <paul.hastings@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> >> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> >> welcome :)
> >>
> >
> > FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Paul ... made a remark on this.

-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample



On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
>
>> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
>> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
>> welcome :)
>>
>
> FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.
>
>
>

Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 2/6/2013 7:47 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote:
> Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
> Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
> welcome :)

FB4.6 can't use MXML design view w/apache flex 4.9.



Re: [WIKI] Designer & Developer Tools page

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
Sorry ... forgot to add the link to the "Designer &
Developer Tools" wiki page [1] ;) Any remarks
welcome :)

-- 
Sebastian (PPMC)
Interaction Designer

Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573



On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Just a quick notice: I have added a screenshots
> of available Designer Tools for Apache Flex. If you
> have any remarks for improvement, please et me know!
>
>
> --
> Sebastian (PPMC)
> Interaction Designer
>
> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code:
> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'd say, this "Convert Flash-Symbol to Flex Component" in Flash Pro
>> is one more way to create an interactive GUI for Flex, and, that is what
>> the guys in the Apache Flex Group [1] have asked for.
>>
>> I am open for recommendations how to structure this wiki page [2], but,
>> this functionality should be mentioned somewhere. I am also planning to
>> add
>> a few screenshots of these mentioned functionalities, so that Flex
>> newbies
>> get a better overview. Would this be ok for you?
>>
>> -Sebastian
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
>> [2]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't say that you can make Flex applications with it though.  It is
>>> no more a tool to make basic components (or skins) than Illustrator.
>>>
>>> Maybe it is worthy of a separate category?
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Sebastian Mohr <flex.masuland@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Good news ...
>>> >
>>> > Found a video answering the question [1] (see video 6m:45s). In Flash
>>> Pro
>>> > CS6,
>>> > Flash symbols can still be converted to Flex Components and Flex
>>> Containers
>>> > :)
>>> > Will mention that on the wiki page, shortly.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [1]
>>> >
>>> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-flash-professional-cs6-/the-main-menu-bar/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely yours,
>>> >
>>> > Sebastian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Sebastian Mohr <
>>> flex.masuland@gmail.com
>>> > >wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > @Nick ... Thanks for asking! With Adobe Flash Pro CS5.5
>>> > > you can generate Flex Components and Flex Containers based
>>> > > on UIMovieClip [1] and import them as SWC files into your Flex
>>> > > projects. I am not sure if Adobe Flash Pro CS6 still supports that.
>>> > > I will check that ...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Sincerely Yours,
>>> > >
>>> > > Sebastian
>>> > >
>>> > > [1]
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/mx/flash/UIMovieClip.html
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
>>> nicholas@spoon.as
>>> > >wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Adobe Flash Pro CS5/5.5/6
>>> > >> support Apache Flex at all...
>>> > >>
>>> > >> You can use SWF files created with it, but I don't think you can
>>> make
>>> > Flex
>>> > >> apps with it...
>>> > >>
>>> > >> -Nick
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Sebastian Mohr <
>>> > flex.masuland@gmail.com
>>> > >> >wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > Hi there,
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Some people are concerned in regards of tooling
>>> > >> > support for Apache Flex [1]. Therefore, I have created
>>> > >> > a wiki page [2] that should list all these tools currently
>>> > >> > supporting Apache Flex. It would great if you could
>>> > >> > run over this list and add those tools that I have missed
>>> > >> > out so far.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Furthermore, a wiki question ... For some reason, I could
>>> > >> > not manage to create readable url for this wiki page [2].
>>> > >> > Instead, what I got is this:
>>> > >> > pageId=30749573<
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>>> > >> > >.
>>> > >> > Do you
>>> > >> > know how to change that?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Thanks,
>>> > >> > Sebastian
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > [1]
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Adobe-Flash-Catalyst-alternative-4296888.S.204640525?qid=3651462e-a797-4ad8-8c5c-8ea6e96c2a43&trk=group_most_popular-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egmr_4296888%2Egmp_4296888
>>> > >> > [2]
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30749573
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>