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[VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
the sandbox.

There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
submission has now been updated and documentation included.

[ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
[ ] 0 don't care
[ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues


-Marshall

Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Jörn Kottmann <ko...@gmail.com>.
+0 because I doubt that there are many users who need a tool like
this, but there is no reason to block it.

Jörn

On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:

> Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.
>
> Here is a +0 from my side.
>
> Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission into  
> the Sandbox.
> If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar to  
> the ConceptMapper submission we
> had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some discussions to  
> the Sandbox and now it is there
> and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the initial  
> import. That is from my side a
> little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the  
> benefit, merging code with
> DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all works  
> fine...
>
> I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I just  
> want to share my thoughts.
> Maybe it works better this time.
>
> -- Michael
>
>
> Marshall Schor wrote:
>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor  
>> into
>> the sandbox.
>>
>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a  
>> request
>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>>
>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>> [ ] 0 don't care
>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>>
>>
>> -Marshall
>


Re: ConceptMapper update

Posted by Michael Tanenblatt <sl...@park-slope.net>.
No problem, I didn't realize that, but it makes sense.

Let me know what I can do to help get this thing finally released.  
I'll be able to put a little time in here and there at this point, so  
I will be more helpful and responsive, I hope.



On Mar 11, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Thilo Goetz wrote:

> Thanks for the patch.  The name of the patch file does not
> matter at all.  Some people name it after the Jira issue,
> but that's not important.
>
> Please see my comment about not sending a single patch for
> several issues, but that's just for future reference.
>
> --Thilo
>
> Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
>> OK, I know I promised an update a while ago, but the holidays and  
>> work
>> commitments just took over my time. I am *finally* ready with a patch
>> that includes a small code change, but more importantly,  
>> documentation!
>> I created a patch file and will attach it to a JIRA issue, just
>> wondering if there is some naming convention for these patch files. I
>> would love to get this thing finally released, as it has been  
>> lingering
>> for way too long.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update, that are good news!
>>>
>>> -- Michael
>>>
>>> Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
>>>> Just to followup on the comment about ConceptMapper: I am in the  
>>>> process
>>>> of putting together documentation right now, and hope to have  
>>>> that done
>>>> by the end of this week. There is also a code change that was  
>>>> requested
>>>> by someone that I want to make, and then I will do whatever I  
>>>> need to do
>>>> to get ConceptMapper released (as I learn the necessary  
>>>> steps...). I
>>>> have really just been so overwhelmed by other projects to close  
>>>> out the
>>>> year that I just had to put ConceptMapper on pause.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a +0 from my side.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission  
>>>>> into the
>>>>> Sandbox.
>>>>> If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar  
>>>>> to the
>>>>> ConceptMapper submission we
>>>>> had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some  
>>>>> discussions to
>>>>> the Sandbox and now it is there
>>>>> and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the  
>>>>> initial
>>>>> import. That is from my side a
>>>>> little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the
>>>>> benefit, merging code with
>>>>> DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all  
>>>>> works
>>>>> fine...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I  
>>>>> just
>>>>> want to share my thoughts.
>>>>> Maybe it works better this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marshall Schor wrote:
>>>>>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature  
>>>>>> Extractor
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the sandbox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a
>>>>>> request
>>>>>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have  
>>>>>> documentation.  The
>>>>>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>>>>>> [ ] 0 don't care
>>>>>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Marshall
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>


Re: ConceptMapper update

Posted by Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de>.
Thanks for the patch.  The name of the patch file does not
matter at all.  Some people name it after the Jira issue,
but that's not important.

Please see my comment about not sending a single patch for
several issues, but that's just for future reference.

--Thilo

Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
> OK, I know I promised an update a while ago, but the holidays and work
> commitments just took over my time. I am *finally* ready with a patch
> that includes a small code change, but more importantly, documentation!
> I created a patch file and will attach it to a JIRA issue, just
> wondering if there is some naming convention for these patch files. I
> would love to get this thing finally released, as it has been lingering
> for way too long.
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the update, that are good news!
>>
>> -- Michael
>>
>> Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
>>> Just to followup on the comment about ConceptMapper: I am in the process
>>> of putting together documentation right now, and hope to have that done
>>> by the end of this week. There is also a code change that was requested
>>> by someone that I want to make, and then I will do whatever I need to do
>>> to get ConceptMapper released (as I learn the necessary steps...). I
>>> have really just been so overwhelmed by other projects to close out the
>>> year that I just had to put ConceptMapper on pause.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a +0 from my side.
>>>>
>>>> Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission into the
>>>> Sandbox.
>>>> If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar to the
>>>> ConceptMapper submission we
>>>> had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some discussions to
>>>> the Sandbox and now it is there
>>>> and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the initial
>>>> import. That is from my side a
>>>> little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the
>>>> benefit, merging code with
>>>> DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all works
>>>> fine...
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I just
>>>> want to share my thoughts.
>>>> Maybe it works better this time.
>>>>
>>>> -- Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marshall Schor wrote:
>>>>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor
>>>>> into
>>>>> the sandbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a
>>>>> request
>>>>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
>>>>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>>>>> [ ] 0 don't care
>>>>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Marshall
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: ConceptMapper update

Posted by Michael Tanenblatt <sl...@park-slope.net>.
OK, I know I promised an update a while ago, but the holidays and work  
commitments just took over my time. I am *finally* ready with a patch  
that includes a small code change, but more importantly,  
documentation! I created a patch file and will attach it to a JIRA  
issue, just wondering if there is some naming convention for these  
patch files. I would love to get this thing finally released, as it  
has been lingering for way too long.


On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:

> Thanks for the update, that are good news!
>
> -- Michael
>
> Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
>> Just to followup on the comment about ConceptMapper: I am in the  
>> process
>> of putting together documentation right now, and hope to have that  
>> done
>> by the end of this week. There is also a code change that was  
>> requested
>> by someone that I want to make, and then I will do whatever I need  
>> to do
>> to get ConceptMapper released (as I learn the necessary steps...). I
>> have really just been so overwhelmed by other projects to close out  
>> the
>> year that I just had to put ConceptMapper on pause.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.
>>>
>>> Here is a +0 from my side.
>>>
>>> Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission into  
>>> the
>>> Sandbox.
>>> If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar to  
>>> the
>>> ConceptMapper submission we
>>> had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some discussions to
>>> the Sandbox and now it is there
>>> and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the initial
>>> import. That is from my side a
>>> little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the
>>> benefit, merging code with
>>> DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all works
>>> fine...
>>>
>>> I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I just
>>> want to share my thoughts.
>>> Maybe it works better this time.
>>>
>>> -- Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Marshall Schor wrote:
>>>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature  
>>>> Extractor into
>>>> the sandbox.
>>>>
>>>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a  
>>>> request
>>>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.   
>>>> The
>>>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>>>>
>>>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>>>> [ ] 0 don't care
>>>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Marshall
>>>
>>
>


Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Michael Baessler <mb...@michael-baessler.de>.
Thanks for the update, that are good news!

-- Michael

Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
> Just to followup on the comment about ConceptMapper: I am in the process
> of putting together documentation right now, and hope to have that done
> by the end of this week. There is also a code change that was requested
> by someone that I want to make, and then I will do whatever I need to do
> to get ConceptMapper released (as I learn the necessary steps...). I
> have really just been so overwhelmed by other projects to close out the
> year that I just had to put ConceptMapper on pause.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:
> 
>> Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.
>>
>> Here is a +0 from my side.
>>
>> Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission into the
>> Sandbox.
>> If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar to the
>> ConceptMapper submission we
>> had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some discussions to
>> the Sandbox and now it is there
>> and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the initial
>> import. That is from my side a
>> little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the
>> benefit, merging code with
>> DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all works
>> fine...
>>
>> I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I just
>> want to share my thoughts.
>> Maybe it works better this time.
>>
>> -- Michael
>>
>>
>> Marshall Schor wrote:
>>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
>>> the sandbox.
>>>
>>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
>>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
>>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>>> [ ] 0 don't care
>>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>>>
>>>
>>> -Marshall
>>
> 


Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Michael Tanenblatt <sl...@park-slope.net>.
Just to followup on the comment about ConceptMapper: I am in the  
process of putting together documentation right now, and hope to have  
that done by the end of this week. There is also a code change that  
was requested by someone that I want to make, and then I will do  
whatever I need to do to get ConceptMapper released (as I learn the  
necessary steps...). I have really just been so overwhelmed by other  
projects to close out the year that I just had to put ConceptMapper on  
pause.

Michael


On Dec 16, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Michael Baessler wrote:

> Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.
>
> Here is a +0 from my side.
>
> Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission into  
> the Sandbox.
> If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar to  
> the ConceptMapper submission we
> had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some discussions to  
> the Sandbox and now it is there
> and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the initial  
> import. That is from my side a
> little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the  
> benefit, merging code with
> DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all works  
> fine...
>
> I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I just  
> want to share my thoughts.
> Maybe it works better this time.
>
> -- Michael
>
>
> Marshall Schor wrote:
>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor  
>> into
>> the sandbox.
>>
>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a  
>> request
>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>>
>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>> [ ] 0 don't care
>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>>
>>
>> -Marshall
>


Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Michael Baessler <mb...@michael-baessler.de>.
Sorry I'm late... thanks for the reminder.

Here is a +0 from my side.

Let me explain why I'm not so convinced about this submission into the Sandbox.
If I follow the discussion threads it seems to me very similar to the ConceptMapper submission we
had in June 2008. There we added the coded after some discussions to the Sandbox and now it is there
and nothing (if I check the SVN history) happened after the initial import. That is from my side a
little bit disappointing. E.g. adding documentation to show the benefit, merging code with
DictionaryAnnotator concepts, adding some tests to see if all works fine...

I don't want to block the submission of CFE into the Sandbox, I just want to share my thoughts.
Maybe it works better this time.

-- Michael


Marshall Schor wrote:
> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
> the sandbox.
> 
> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
> 
> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
> 
> 
> -Marshall


Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de>.
Michael Tanenblatt wrote:
> Igor Sominsky is on vacation now, so he cannot respond, but I think it 
> is safe to say that he will continue to support this for the foreseeable 
> future. It is something that he and I use often, and he has been 
> continuing to enhance and support it.
> 
> On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
> 
>> Who will maintain this code once it's in the sandbox?

Igor, are you back?  Care to comment?  I'd like to see
some assurance that this is not just a code drop before
I vote.

I'm also confused about the evaluation part of CFE.  I
can see that it's useful to have this sort of evaluation,
but should it really be part of a feature extraction
package?  It seems a pretty independent sort of
functionality.  Or maybe I just didn't understand it.

You write in your user's guide that CFE depends on both
XmlBeans and EMF.  Are you using EMF for anything but
XML processing?  Do you think EMF could be eliminated
and completely replaced by XmlBeans?  To be clear, this
is not necessary, I'm just curious.

--Thilo


Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Michael Tanenblatt <sl...@park-slope.net>.
Igor Sominsky is on vacation now, so he cannot respond, but I think it  
is safe to say that he will continue to support this for the  
foreseeable future. It is something that he and I use often, and he  
has been continuing to enhance and support it.

On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:

> Who will maintain this code once it's in the sandbox?
>
> --Thilo
>
> Marshall Schor wrote:
>> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor  
>> into
>> the sandbox.
>> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
>> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a  
>> request
>> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
>> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
>> [ ] 0 don't care
>> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>> -Marshall


Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Thilo Goetz <tw...@gmx.de>.
Who will maintain this code once it's in the sandbox?

--Thilo

Marshall Schor wrote:
> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
> the sandbox.
> 
> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
> 
> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
> 
> 
> -Marshall

Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Eddie Epstein <ea...@gmail.com>.
The discussion shows several people interested in CFE functionality.
Potential use of the CFE also came up in another thread discussing
tools for comparing CAS context to a reference (see
http://markmail.org/message/wbnp6zqdzr3dqyvm)

Based on these: +1

Eddie

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:

>
>
> Marshall Schor wrote:
> > Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
> > the sandbox.
> >
> > There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
> > http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
> > for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
> > submission has now been updated and documentation included.
> >
> > [ ] +1 accept Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into sandbox
> > [ ] 0 don't care
> > [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
> >
> >
> > -Marshall
> >
> >
> +1 from me (I also fixed the vote template - I had cut/pasted another
> one here, but forgot to rename the item....  we're voting on the CFE :-) )
>
> -Marshall
>

Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.

Marshall Schor wrote:
> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
> the sandbox.
>
> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>
> [ ] +1 accept Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into sandbox
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>
>
> -Marshall
>
>   
+1 from me (I also fixed the vote template - I had cut/pasted another
one here, but forgot to rename the item....  we're voting on the CFE :-) )

-Marshall

Re: [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Adam Lally <al...@alum.rpi.edu>.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com> wrote:
> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
> the sandbox.
>
> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>
> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>
>

+1


-Adam

[RESULT] [VOTE] accept the Configurable Feature Extractor (CFE) into the sandbox

Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
The summary of this vote is:

+1:  Marshall, Eddie, Adam
+0:  Michael, Jörn, Thilo

The vote has been open way more than 72 hours.

The vote passes.

-Marshall

Marshall Schor wrote:
> Please cast your vote to accept the Configurable Feature Extractor into
> the sandbox.
>
> There was a discussion on this on uima-user list (see
> http://markmail.org/message/ty6eq4ne7r4rvtim ) that ended with a request
> for a Jira submission.  The original did not have documentation.  The
> submission has now been updated and documentation included.
>
> [ ] +1 accept CAS viewer source code into sandbox
> [ ] 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 don't accept, I still have issues
>
>
> -Marshall
>
>
>