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Posted to users@netbeans.apache.org by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com> on 2019/03/06 00:47:37 UTC
Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
> I certainly can unzip the file.
>
> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
> downloaded application.
>
> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
> installer.
>
But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
What are they afraid of?
>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>
>
>
> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>
>
>
> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>
>
Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by Marc Collin <ma...@gmail.com>.
create a bat file ...
Le mar. 5 mars 2019 à 19:47, Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
>> I certainly can unzip the file.
>>
>> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
>> downloaded application.
>>
>> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
>> installer.
>>
>
> But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
>
> What are they afraid of?
>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
>> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
>> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
>> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
>> in the works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows
>> (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?
>>
>>
Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>.
I feel your pain, but you currently have no options that won't result in
you violating your company policies.
Unless you want to research how to make an installer for Windows and
contribute that to Netbeans.
Does this daemon block running Java code that you write?
What if you write a command line tool that you launch with java -jar ? Does
that get blocked?
Because that is basically how you would start NetBeans from a zip download.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 20:03 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
> Not JRE,
>
> Our company software certification program.
>
>
>
> *From: *Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
> Visa is paranoid about security.
>
> I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech
> governance approval and certification.
>
> There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
>
> Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
>
> I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to
> bypass certs
>
> Bypass certs?
>
> Do you mean certs in jre?
>
>
>
> by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
> I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
>
>
>
> *From: *Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
> I certainly can unzip the file.
>
> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
> downloaded application.
>
> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
> installer.
>
>
>
> But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
>
>
>
> What are they afraid of?
>
>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>
>
>
> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>
>
>
> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>
>
RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by "Thomson, Duncan" <du...@mitre.org>.
I would be very interested to hear why they insist on a windows installer. What security advantages do they cite
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From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:34 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
I feel your pain, but you currently have no options that won't result in you violating your company policies.
Unless you want to research how to make an installer for Windows and contribute that to Netbeans.
Does this daemon block running Java code that you write?
What if you write a command line tool that you launch with java -jar ? Does that get blocked?
Because that is basically how you would start NetBeans from a zip download.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 20:03 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?
by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.
But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
What are they afraid of?
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Yes, there’s a PR for that.
No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.
Gj
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?
Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>.
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?
by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.
But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
What are they afraid of?
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Yes, there’s a PR for that.
No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.
Gj
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?
RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by "Thomson, Duncan" <du...@mitre.org>.
Sorry that was meant to say: IMHO it’s a good thing to have a policy to ensure only trusted software is installed. But deciding what to trust is not so easy.
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From: Thomson, Duncan <du...@mitre.org>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 9:39 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>, Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
IMHO it’s a good thing to h
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(www.blackberry.com)
From: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?
by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.
But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
What are they afraid of?
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Yes, there’s a PR for that.
No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.
Gj
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?
RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by "Thomson, Duncan" <du...@mitre.org>.
IMHO it’s a good thing to h
Sent with BlackBerry Work
(www.blackberry.com)
From: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?
by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.
But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
What are they afraid of?
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Yes, there’s a PR for that.
No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.
Gj
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?
Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
> Visa is paranoid about security.
>
> I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech
> governance approval and certification.
>
> There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
>
> Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
>
> I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to
> bypass certs
>
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?
by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
> I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
>
>
>
> *From: *Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
> I certainly can unzip the file.
>
> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
> downloaded application.
>
> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
> installer.
>
>
>
> But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
>
>
>
> What are they afraid of?
>
>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>
>
>
> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>
>
>
> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>
>
Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Posted by "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>.
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.
But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
What are they afraid of?
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
Yes, there’s a PR for that.
No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.
Gj
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?