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[MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Hi Mathieu Lirzin,
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Regarding wiki edit access, Please refer Wiki access
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Thanks & Regards
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Deepak Dixit
Director of Product Engineering
HotWax Commerce <https://hotwax.co/>
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From: Mathieu Lirzin <ma...@nereide.fr>
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:33:21 +0200
Subject: Wiki edit request
Hello,
I would like to be able to edit the confluence Wiki.
My confluence username: mlirzin
Thanks.
--
Mathieu Lirzin
GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the idea but this is not in hour hands but ASF infra team http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact
Only moderation is.
Sincerely the ASF uses ezmlm <http://untroubled.org/ezmlm/> for handling its ML, and I doubt the infra will change anything there ;)
Imagine, the infra team is a handful of guys and they handle tons of MLs
Jacques
Le 17/04/2018 à 14:21, Chris Clark a écrit :
> No what you guys should is this...
>
> Have a list of maillist users in an array... say mailListUsers
>
> On all incoming mail to the mail list do some soft of
> indexOf(mailListUsers);
>
> Than a conditional
>
> if indexOf(mailListUsers) > -1 {
> sendMail... (However you do it)
> };
> if indexOf(mailListUsers) < 0 {
> forwardMailAsUserModerated... (However you do it)
> sendRegVerifiyeMail (as if new user was registering)
> };
>
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 5:22 AM Mathieu Lirzin, <ma...@nereide.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jacques,
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> writes:
>>
>>> Le 17/04/2018 à 11:33, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
>>>> Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
>>>>> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
>>>>> one before we give access to our wiki.
>>>> Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
>>>> should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
>>>> requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
>>>> information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
>>>> made.
>>> Obviously it's ASL2 since you send your ICLA to the ASF ;)
>> Sorry I am not used to the Apache way. :-)
>>
>> I would expect the ASL2 to require somekind of copying statement on each
>> wiki page. No?
>>
>>>>> You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
>>>> I will send my ICLA to <se...@apache.org> soon.
>>>>
>>>> Do you need some kind of notification when this is done?
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access
>>> Actually no, we (PMC in private ML) receive this information by the
>> secretary
>>
>> OK, thanks for the information.
>>
>> --
>> Mathieu Lirzin
>> GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
>>
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Chris Clark <ri...@gmail.com>.
No what you guys should is this...
Have a list of maillist users in an array... say mailListUsers
On all incoming mail to the mail list do some soft of
indexOf(mailListUsers);
Than a conditional
if indexOf(mailListUsers) > -1 {
sendMail... (However you do it)
};
if indexOf(mailListUsers) < 0 {
forwardMailAsUserModerated... (However you do it)
sendRegVerifiyeMail (as if new user was registering)
};
Just my 2 cents
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 5:22 AM Mathieu Lirzin, <ma...@nereide.fr>
wrote:
> Hello Jacques,
>
> Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> writes:
>
> > Le 17/04/2018 à 11:33, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
> >>
> >> Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
> >>
> >>> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
> >>> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
> >>> one before we give access to our wiki.
> >> Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
> >> should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
> >> requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
> >> information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
> >> made.
> > Obviously it's ASL2 since you send your ICLA to the ASF ;)
>
> Sorry I am not used to the Apache way. :-)
>
> I would expect the ASL2 to require somekind of copying statement on each
> wiki page. No?
>
> >>> You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
> >> I will send my ICLA to <se...@apache.org> soon.
> >>
> >> Do you need some kind of notification when this is done?
> >>
> >> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access
> > Actually no, we (PMC in private ML) receive this information by the
> secretary
>
> OK, thanks for the information.
>
> --
> Mathieu Lirzin
> GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
>
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Mathieu,
Le 17/04/2018 à 12:22, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
> Hello Jacques,
>
> Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> writes:
>
>> Le 17/04/2018 à 11:33, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
>>> Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
>>>> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
>>>> one before we give access to our wiki.
>>> Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
>>> should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
>>> requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
>>> information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
>>> made.
>> Obviously it's ASL2 since you send your ICLA to the ASF ;)
> Sorry I am not used to the Apache way. :-)
>
> I would expect the ASL2 to require somekind of copying statement on each
> wiki page. No?
I don't think it's needed. Maybe a small sentence could be added to the header that currently says:
"Access to add and change pages is restricted. See: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access"
I'm not sure it's worth it, what others think, especially Sharan?
Jacques
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Mathieu Lirzin <ma...@nereide.fr>.
Hello Jacques,
Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> writes:
> Le 17/04/2018 à 11:33, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
>>
>> Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
>>
>>> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
>>> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
>>> one before we give access to our wiki.
>> Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
>> should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
>> requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
>> information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
>> made.
> Obviously it's ASL2 since you send your ICLA to the ASF ;)
Sorry I am not used to the Apache way. :-)
I would expect the ASL2 to require somekind of copying statement on each
wiki page. No?
>>> You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
>> I will send my ICLA to <se...@apache.org> soon.
>>
>> Do you need some kind of notification when this is done?
>>
>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access
> Actually no, we (PMC in private ML) receive this information by the secretary
OK, thanks for the information.
--
Mathieu Lirzin
GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Mathieu
No worries. Normally when people request access to our wiki, if they don’t have an ICLA then I send them the link to the contributors page to take a look at because it includes a link to the discussion about introducing it, when it was introduced (in November 2014) and what it means to sign an ICLA. A link to the original discussion link is here : https://s.apache.org/N0sF
I’ll try and explain from my perspective. The details on the wiki are an important part of the project just like the OFBiz code. Everything we do as a project is done under the Apache Licence which simply means it open and free for anyone to use. Signing an ICLA means that you understand that anything you contribute (or want to contribute) is done so under the Apache Licence and that you are happy to do this.
As Jacques mentioned, for the notification, once the ICLA is filed, the PMC gets an notification directly from the secretary
Hope this helps
Thanks
Sharan
On 2018/04/17 09:55:57, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Le 17/04/2018 à 11:33, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
> > Hello Sharan,
> >
> > Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
> >
> >> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
> >> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
> >> one before we give access to our wiki.
> > Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
> > should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
> > requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
> > information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
> > made.
> Obviously it's ASL2 since you send your ICLA to the ASF ;)
>
> > While I have no problem signing an ICLA, I found it a bit surprising to
> > have such requirement for editing a wiki. Do you know the rationale of
> > this?
> I also then wondered about that. But I guess Sharan can explain that.
>
> >> You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
> > I will send my ICLA to <se...@apache.org> soon.
> >
> > Do you need some kind of notification when this is done?
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access
> Actually no, we (PMC in private ML) receive this information by the secretary
>
> Jacques
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Mathieu,
Le 17/04/2018 à 11:33, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :
> Hello Sharan,
>
> Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
>
>> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
>> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
>> one before we give access to our wiki.
> Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
> should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
> requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
> information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
> made.
Obviously it's ASL2 since you send your ICLA to the ASF ;)
> While I have no problem signing an ICLA, I found it a bit surprising to
> have such requirement for editing a wiki. Do you know the rationale of
> this?
I also then wondered about that. But I guess Sharan can explain that.
>> You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
> I will send my ICLA to <se...@apache.org> soon.
>
> Do you need some kind of notification when this is done?
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access
Actually no, we (PMC in private ML) receive this information by the secretary
Jacques
>
> Thanks.
>
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Mathieu Lirzin <ma...@nereide.fr>.
Hello Sharan,
Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> writes:
> I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an
> ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete
> one before we give access to our wiki.
Indeed I was unaware of this requirement. Maybe the wording in [1]
should be changed to make it clear that signing an ICLA is a
requirement. Additionally it would be nice it was giving some
information regarding the license upon which wiki contributions are
made.
While I have no problem signing an ICLA, I found it a bit surprising to
have such requirement for editing a wiki. Do you know the rationale of
this?
> You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
I will send my ICLA to <se...@apache.org> soon.
Do you need some kind of notification when this is done?
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Wiki+access
Thanks.
--
Mathieu Lirzin
GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Mathieu
I couldn't find your name in the list of people who have an ICLA. Please can you complete one. We ask all contributors to complete one before we give access to our wiki.
You can find details of how to do it on our contributors page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
Thanks
Sharan
On 2018/04/17 07:33:11, Mathieu Lirzin <ma...@nereide.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Deepak Dixit <de...@hotwax.co> writes:
>
> > Your email has been moderated, please subscribe mailing list
> > http://ofbiz.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> Done.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Mathieu Lirzin
> GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
>
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Mathieu Lirzin <ma...@nereide.fr>.
Hello,
Deepak Dixit <de...@hotwax.co> writes:
> Your email has been moderated, please subscribe mailing list
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
Done.
Thanks.
--
Mathieu Lirzin
GPG: F2A3 8D7E EB2B 6640 5761 070D 0ADE E100 9460 4D37
Re: [MODERATE EMAIL] Wiki edit request
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Deepak,
It's great to have the [MODERATE EMAIL] prefix on the 1st moderated message. But then people reuse the subject prefix w/o removing the prefix and
it's confusing.
I think we should not add this prefix to avoid this confusion
Thanks
Jacques
Le 17/04/2018 à 06:32, Deepak Dixit a écrit :
> Hi Mathieu Lirzin,
>
> Your email has been moderated, please subscribe mailing list
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> Regarding wiki edit access, Please refer Wiki access
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/6IAWAw>
>
> Thanks & Regards
> --
> Deepak Dixit
> Director of Product Engineering
> HotWax Commerce <https://hotwax.co/>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mathieu Lirzin <ma...@nereide.fr>
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:33:21 +0200
> Subject: Wiki edit request
> Hello,
>
> I would like to be able to edit the confluence Wiki.
>
> My confluence username: mlirzin
>
> Thanks.
>