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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com> on 2010/05/25 03:15:04 UTC
Re: Merging back the dispatcher
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 27/04/2010, at 08:04, David Crossley wrote:
>
>> Tim Williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if the dispatcher is all that changed in such a release, we
>>> could do a 0.91 afterwards. I think there's another consideration
>>> that I didn't mention too. I feel irresponsible releasing software
>>> that we can't support and I'm concerned that this would be the case
>>> with the dispatcher. I have a difficult enough time now digging up
>>> Cocoon knowledge when questions come across but with
>>> dispatcher-related ones I have no clue. Maybe it's an unfounded
>>> concern, I dunno...
>>
>> I have the same concerns.
>>
>> Perhaps we should get 0.9 released ASAP,
>> then make a concerted effort to build a Dispatcher
>> community. Make another release soon after.
>
>
> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basically one transformer and
> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts. There is not much
> more to it.
So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the
whiteboard? Does anyone have the time in the near future to move it
from the whiteboard anyway?
--tim
Re: Merging back the dispatcher
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Brian M Dube <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 08:16:51AM -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 25/05/2010, at 03:15, Tim Williams wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 27/04/2010, at 08:04, David Crossley wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Tim Williams wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Well, if the dispatcher is all that changed in such a release, we
>> >>>>> could do a 0.91 afterwards. I think there's another consideration
>> >>>>> that I didn't mention too. I feel irresponsible releasing software
>> >>>>> that we can't support and I'm concerned that this would be the case
>> >>>>> with the dispatcher. I have a difficult enough time now digging up
>> >>>>> Cocoon knowledge when questions come across but with
>> >>>>> dispatcher-related ones I have no clue. Maybe it's an unfounded
>> >>>>> concern, I dunno...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have the same concerns.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Perhaps we should get 0.9 released ASAP,
>> >>>> then make a concerted effort to build a Dispatcher
>> >>>> community. Make another release soon after.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basically one transformer and
>> >>> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts. There is not much
>> >>> more to it.
>> >>
>> >> So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the
>> >> whiteboard? Does anyone have the time in the near future to move it
>> >> from the whiteboard anyway?
>> >
>> >
>> > I am not sure about the community support as reason to keep it in the whiteboard. There are many devs and committer
>> > that uses the dispatcher so I do not see the missing community around it.
>>
>> Thanks Thorsten, fair enough, I'm hoping someone finds time to move it
>> to /plugins soon? I've been avoiding the dispatcher related 0.9
>> issues until this decision was made so we'll also need to start
>> picking through those issues and figuring which can be pushed off.
>>
>> --tim
>
> I can find the time to move it, but do we have a consensus? It's hard
> to tell when it's so quiet.
As I understand it, it could happen under lazy approval anyway. I
dunno, maybe a vote is in order.
On the other hand, I need to find our documentation on plugin releases
and how they do/do not necessarily coincide with the app itself - I
think Ross has written about this somewhere...
--tim
Re: Merging back the dispatcher
Posted by Brian M Dube <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 08:16:51AM -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 25/05/2010, at 03:15, Tim Williams wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 27/04/2010, at 08:04, David Crossley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Tim Williams wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, if the dispatcher is all that changed in such a release, we
> >>>>> could do a 0.91 afterwards. I think there's another consideration
> >>>>> that I didn't mention too. I feel irresponsible releasing software
> >>>>> that we can't support and I'm concerned that this would be the case
> >>>>> with the dispatcher. I have a difficult enough time now digging up
> >>>>> Cocoon knowledge when questions come across but with
> >>>>> dispatcher-related ones I have no clue. Maybe it's an unfounded
> >>>>> concern, I dunno...
> >>>>
> >>>> I have the same concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps we should get 0.9 released ASAP,
> >>>> then make a concerted effort to build a Dispatcher
> >>>> community. Make another release soon after.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basically one transformer and
> >>> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts. There is not much
> >>> more to it.
> >>
> >> So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the
> >> whiteboard? Does anyone have the time in the near future to move it
> >> from the whiteboard anyway?
> >
> >
> > I am not sure about the community support as reason to keep it in the whiteboard. There are many devs and committer
> > that uses the dispatcher so I do not see the missing community around it.
>
> Thanks Thorsten, fair enough, I'm hoping someone finds time to move it
> to /plugins soon? I've been avoiding the dispatcher related 0.9
> issues until this decision was made so we'll also need to start
> picking through those issues and figuring which can be pushed off.
>
> --tim
I can find the time to move it, but do we have a consensus? It's hard
to tell when it's so quiet.
-Brian
Re: Merging back the dispatcher
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 08:16 -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
...
> >>>
> >>> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basically one transformer and
> >>> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts. There is not much
> >>> more to it.
> >>
> >> So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the
> >> whiteboard? Does anyone have the time in the near future to move it
> >> from the whiteboard anyway?
> >
> >
> > I am not sure about the community support as reason to keep it in the whiteboard. There are many devs and committer
> > that uses the dispatcher so I do not see the missing community around it.
>
> Thanks Thorsten, fair enough, I'm hoping someone finds time to move it
> to /plugins soon? I've been avoiding the dispatcher related 0.9
> issues until this decision was made so we'll also need to start
> picking through those issues and figuring which can be pushed off.
Yeah, thanks for doing so and the dispatcher should not hold up any
release.
salu2
Re: Merging back the dispatcher
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 25/05/2010, at 03:15, Tim Williams wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 27/04/2010, at 08:04, David Crossley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if the dispatcher is all that changed in such a release, we
>>>>> could do a 0.91 afterwards. I think there's another consideration
>>>>> that I didn't mention too. I feel irresponsible releasing software
>>>>> that we can't support and I'm concerned that this would be the case
>>>>> with the dispatcher. I have a difficult enough time now digging up
>>>>> Cocoon knowledge when questions come across but with
>>>>> dispatcher-related ones I have no clue. Maybe it's an unfounded
>>>>> concern, I dunno...
>>>>
>>>> I have the same concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should get 0.9 released ASAP,
>>>> then make a concerted effort to build a Dispatcher
>>>> community. Make another release soon after.
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basically one transformer and
>>> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts. There is not much
>>> more to it.
>>
>> So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the
>> whiteboard? Does anyone have the time in the near future to move it
>> from the whiteboard anyway?
>
>
> I am not sure about the community support as reason to keep it in the whiteboard. There are many devs and committer
> that uses the dispatcher so I do not see the missing community around it.
Thanks Thorsten, fair enough, I'm hoping someone finds time to move it
to /plugins soon? I've been avoiding the dispatcher related 0.9
issues until this decision was made so we'll also need to start
picking through those issues and figuring which can be pushed off.
--tim
Re: Merging back the dispatcher
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On 25/05/2010, at 03:15, Tim Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 27/04/2010, at 08:04, David Crossley wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, if the dispatcher is all that changed in such a release, we
>>>> could do a 0.91 afterwards. I think there's another consideration
>>>> that I didn't mention too. I feel irresponsible releasing software
>>>> that we can't support and I'm concerned that this would be the case
>>>> with the dispatcher. I have a difficult enough time now digging up
>>>> Cocoon knowledge when questions come across but with
>>>> dispatcher-related ones I have no clue. Maybe it's an unfounded
>>>> concern, I dunno...
>>>
>>> I have the same concerns.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should get 0.9 released ASAP,
>>> then make a concerted effort to build a Dispatcher
>>> community. Make another release soon after.
>>
>>
>> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basically one transformer and
>> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts. There is not much
>> more to it.
>
> So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the
> whiteboard? Does anyone have the time in the near future to move it
> from the whiteboard anyway?
I am not sure about the community support as reason to keep it in the whiteboard. There are many devs and committer that uses the dispatcher so I do not see the missing community around it.
salu2
Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org>
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