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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Ryan Schmidt <ti...@ryandesign.com> on 2009/01/28 02:33:22 UTC
Re: Subscribe to svn users@ list?
On Jan 27, 2009, at 14:31, Mark Phippard wrote:
> Ryan,
>
> I just signed up to moderate some messages. I noticed a bunch from
> you. Have you unsubscribed from the list? I notice you change your
> address each year. I could not find a tigris account for you, but if
> you do have one, you can add these email addresses to the account to
> have them go through (assuming you are subscribed).
>
> I could not find you as a tigris user or a list subscriber.
Hi Mark. Allow me to Cc users@ on this discussion since perhaps
others are experiencing the same trouble.
Thanks for moderating my messages through. I have been noticing my
emails to the list appearing much later than I sent them, but I
thought it was my mail server. Now I know that they were being held
up in moderation, but I don't know why that would be, since I have
been subscribed and receiving messages to that address (verified by
the X-Envelope-To header).
I change my mailing list address quarterly, actually, to try to curb
spam. Since Tigris refuses to obfuscate email addresses in their
mailing list web archives, my Subversion list email addresses are my
biggest source of spam.
http://www.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3
I have now unsubscribed and re-subscribed and been told that it was
successful (see forwarded messages below). I don't think it helped
though because I sent a reply to a message (subject "Re: Screwed
Revision Numbers in SVN") and it has not shown up yet 26 minutes
later; previously, my replies would appear within seconds.
I do have a tigris.org account, ryandesign, but I had not linked it
with my mailing list subscription address. I did not know that was
possible to do, and it has not been necessary before. I have now
added my current list subscription address to my Tigris profile and
replied to another message (subject "Re: Once again: The $name$
keyword") but it too has not shown up on the list 12 minutes later.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: admin@subversion.tigris.org
> Date: January 27, 2009 20:01:20 CST
> To: Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>
> Subject: Re: Your Unsubscribe Request to users@subversion.tigris.org
>
> This is to inform you that your recent unsubscribe request was
> successful.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Discussion Administrator <ad...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Date: January 27, 2009 20:03:55 CST
> To: subversion-2009a@ryandesign.com
> Subject: Subscription to discussion users
> Reply-To: users-confirm-48435@subversion.tigris.org
>
> We have received a request to subscribe you to the discussion
> users@subversion.tigris.org. If you wish to receive email
> notifications from this discussion, please reply to this message.
>
> If not, ignore this email.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: admin@subversion.tigris.org
> Date: January 27, 2009 20:04:32 CST
> To: Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>
> Subject: Welcome to users@subversion.tigris.org
>
> We are happy to inform you that your recent subscription request
> was accepted
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Re: Subscribe to svn users@ list?
Posted by Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>.
On Jan 28, 2009, at 08:35, Mark Phippard wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>
>> I have now changed my Tigris profile's primary and sole email
>> address to be my list
>> subscription address, but the messages I have subsequently sent to
>> the list are still not
>> showing up. Should I try to unsubscribe and re-subscribe again?
>
> I still cannot find you in the list of subscribers. Try going to this
> page, which let's you edit your subscription settings. Uncheck and
> check again if necessary to subscribe.
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/editSubscription.do?dsForumId=1065
It did not show me as subscribed. I clicked the checkbox and
submitted the form, and it sent me an email to tell me I'm
subscribed. I had never used the web form to subscribe or unsubscribe
before; I had just done it by sending email to the list server.
Then later I got a message that you've made me a trusted poster, so
if nothing else did, hopefully that will fix it.
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Re: Subscribe to svn users@ list?
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ryan Schmidt
<su...@ryandesign.com> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 14:31, Mark Phippard wrote:
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> I just signed up to moderate some messages. I noticed a bunch from
>> you. Have you unsubscribed from the list? I notice you change your
>> address each year. I could not find a tigris account for you, but if
>> you do have one, you can add these email addresses to the account to
>> have them go through (assuming you are subscribed).
>>
>> I could not find you as a tigris user or a list subscriber.
>
> Hi Mark. Allow me to Cc users@ on this discussion since perhaps others are
> experiencing the same trouble.
Tigris has been running an older version of CEE for a fairly long time
now. It was upgraded to the latest version in early December. In the
intervening versions a new Discussions system was created in CEE that
unifies web-based forums with mailing lists. The previous ezlm
mailing list is no longer part of tigris. Obviously the migration was
supposed to be smooth and mostly unnoticeable, but that has not turned
out to be the case on tigris. There are a lot of old usage patterns
that are not working the same.
> Thanks for moderating my messages through. I have been noticing my emails to
> the list appearing much later than I sent them, but I thought it was my mail
> server. Now I know that they were being held up in moderation, but I don't
> know why that would be, since I have been subscribed and receiving messages
> to that address (verified by the X-Envelope-To header).
I believe this is being worked on. There is a notion of a "trusted"
poster whose messages do not need to be moderated. Subscribers that
do not have a tigris account are not getting this bit. The moderation
system ought to allow it to be added, but it does not currently. It
can be set via the web UI. So if you want to go back to your old way
of using tigris, I can probably find your subscription and make you
"trusted".
> I change my mailing list address quarterly, actually, to try to curb spam.
> Since Tigris refuses to obfuscate email addresses in their mailing list web
> archives, my Subversion list email addresses are my biggest source of spam.
There is some hope that this might finally be addressed. With all of
these other problems we've had to absorb, we are using those as extra
leverage to elevate the priority of this.
> http://www.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3
>
> I have now unsubscribed and re-subscribed and been told that it was
> successful (see forwarded messages below). I don't think it helped though
> because I sent a reply to a message (subject "Re: Screwed Revision Numbers
> in SVN") and it has not shown up yet 26 minutes later; previously, my
> replies would appear within seconds.
>
> I do have a tigris.org account, ryandesign, but I had not linked it with my
> mailing list subscription address. I did not know that was possible to do,
> and it has not been necessary before. I have now added my current list
> subscription address to my Tigris profile and replied to another message
> (subject "Re: Once again: The $name$ keyword") but it too has not shown up
> on the list 12 minutes later.
I think once you do this you will become a trusted poster and not need
your posts moderated.
> My first message has now been moderated through, but the From address was munged to be
> my primary Tigris profile address instead of the address I actually sent the mail from (the one
> under which I'm subscribed, and the one to which the mail was delivered). This was totally
> unexpected and not desired, and seems to run counter to Subversion's existing policy of not
> munging the Reply-To header:
Yes, we discovered it was doing this last week and reported it. I
believe it should be fixed in an upcoming patch.
> I have now changed my Tigris profile's primary and sole email address to be my list
> subscription address, but the messages I have subsequently sent to the list are still not
> showing up. Should I try to unsubscribe and re-subscribe again?
I still cannot find you in the list of subscribers. Try going to this
page, which let's you edit your subscription settings. Uncheck and
check again if necessary to subscribe.
http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/editSubscription.do?dsForumId=1065
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: Subscribe to svn users@ list?
Posted by Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>.
On Jan 27, 2009, at 20:33, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 14:31, Mark Phippard wrote:
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> I just signed up to moderate some messages. I noticed a bunch from
>> you. Have you unsubscribed from the list? I notice you change your
>> address each year. I could not find a tigris account for you, but if
>> you do have one, you can add these email addresses to the account to
>> have them go through (assuming you are subscribed).
>>
>> I could not find you as a tigris user or a list subscriber.
>
> Hi Mark. Allow me to Cc users@ on this discussion since perhaps
> others are experiencing the same trouble.
>
> Thanks for moderating my messages through. I have been noticing my
> emails to the list appearing much later than I sent them, but I
> thought it was my mail server. Now I know that they were being held
> up in moderation, but I don't know why that would be, since I have
> been subscribed and receiving messages to that address (verified by
> the X-Envelope-To header).
>
> I change my mailing list address quarterly, actually, to try to
> curb spam. Since Tigris refuses to obfuscate email addresses in
> their mailing list web archives, my Subversion list email addresses
> are my biggest source of spam.
>
> http://www.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3
>
> I have now unsubscribed and re-subscribed and been told that it was
> successful (see forwarded messages below). I don't think it helped
> though because I sent a reply to a message (subject "Re: Screwed
> Revision Numbers in SVN") and it has not shown up yet 26 minutes
> later; previously, my replies would appear within seconds.
>
> I do have a tigris.org account, ryandesign, but I had not linked it
> with my mailing list subscription address. I did not know that was
> possible to do, and it has not been necessary before. I have now
> added my current list subscription address to my Tigris profile and
> replied to another message (subject "Re: Once again: The $name$
> keyword") but it too has not shown up on the list 12 minutes later.
My first message has now been moderated through, but the From address
was munged to be my primary Tigris profile address instead of the
address I actually sent the mail from (the one under which I'm
subscribed, and the one to which the mail was delivered). This was
totally unexpected and not desired, and seems to run counter to
Subversion's existing policy of not munging the Reply-To header:
http://subversion.tigris.org/mailing-lists.html#reply-to
I have now changed my Tigris profile's primary and sole email address
to be my list subscription address, but the messages I have
subsequently sent to the list are still not showing up. Should I try
to unsubscribe and re-subscribe again?
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