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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org> on 2002/11/06 20:10:54 UTC
Graph of Struts Growth.l
Back in Feburary of 2001 when I proposed to my new
employer that we use struts, one of the items I looked at was
mailing list traffic, between it and other open source projects.
I have been keeping that chart up to date and thought people here
might find it interesting. This is a simplified chart which only shows
tomcat and struts list traffic.
Back then the tomcat mailing list traffic was so large that it made the
struts mailing list traffic look like a straight line. That has definately
changed !
-Rob
Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Robert Leland wrote:
> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:10:54 -0500
> From: Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Subject: Graph of Struts Growth.l
>
> Back in Feburary of 2001 when I proposed to my new
> employer that we use struts, one of the items I looked at was
> mailing list traffic, between it and other open source projects.
> I have been keeping that chart up to date and thought people here
> might find it interesting. This is a simplified chart which only shows
> tomcat and struts list traffic.
>
> Back then the tomcat mailing list traffic was so large that it made the
> struts mailing list traffic look like a straight line. That has definately
> changed !
>
Over time, the subscription count on the Struts user list has also been
approaching that of the Tomcat user list (largest user list on Jakarta
since "forever") as well. As of today, and counting digest subsribers to
both lists:
STRUTS-USER = 2376
TOMCAT-USER = 2433
Almost there!
> -Rob
>
Craig
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Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by John Owen <jo...@hotmail.com>.
Need to loosen that tie just a bit Eddie. ;)
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Subject: Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
> LMAO - you were serious?! I thought you were cracking a joke about my
> comments!
>
> <emote:walkingAway>
> <emote:addEffect name="shake-head"/>
> ... shoulda known better ... :-)
> </emote:walkingAway>
>
> James Mitchell wrote:
>
> >LOL....no...the Rand() is Randomize. (Completely Useless Data)
> >
> >Sorry, just thought I'd have a little fun while making a small point.
> >
> >
> >
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.open-tools.org
> >
> >"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not
> >sure about the former."
> >- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
> >
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Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by Eddie Bush <ek...@swbell.net>.
LMAO - you were serious?! I thought you were cracking a joke about my
comments!
<emote:walkingAway>
<emote:addEffect name="shake-head"/>
... shoulda known better ... :-)
</emote:walkingAway>
James Mitchell wrote:
>LOL....no...the Rand() is Randomize. (Completely Useless Data)
>
>Sorry, just thought I'd have a little fun while making a small point.
>
>
>
>James Mitchell
>Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
>http://www.open-tools.org
>
>"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
>sure about the former."
>- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
>
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RE: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
LOL....no...the Rand() is Randomize. (Completely Useless Data)
Sorry, just thought I'd have a little fun while making a small point.
James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie Bush [mailto:ekbush@swbell.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:08 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
>
>
> I just can't imagine there being so danged many emails - and such a
> large percentage of them [OT].
>
> ... do we blabber senslessly that much?
>
> I actually went back and examined Rob's again after I clicked send. His
> corroborates yours pretty much. I just can't believe there's that much
> traffic!
>
> James Mitchell wrote:
>
> >Actually, I was trying out the Rand() function in excel.
> >
> >So how do the numbers stack up?
> >
> >Do you mean, *gasp* it doesn't look accurate?
> >
> >
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.open-tools.org
> >
> >"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
> and I'm not
> >sure about the former."
> >- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
> >
>
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Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by Eddie Bush <ek...@swbell.net>.
I just can't imagine there being so danged many emails - and such a
large percentage of them [OT].
... do we blabber senslessly that much?
I actually went back and examined Rob's again after I clicked send. His
corroborates yours pretty much. I just can't believe there's that much
traffic!
James Mitchell wrote:
>Actually, I was trying out the Rand() function in excel.
>
>So how do the numbers stack up?
>
>Do you mean, *gasp* it doesn't look accurate?
>
>
>James Mitchell
>Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
>http://www.open-tools.org
>
>"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
>sure about the former."
>- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
>
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RE: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
Actually, I was trying out the Rand() function in excel.
So how do the numbers stack up?
Do you mean, *gasp* it doesn't look accurate?
James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie Bush [mailto:ekbush@swbell.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
>
>
> That chart makes me feel like there should be some sort of
> accompanyment. You know - a sound-track! The numbers look a bit high
> though. Are you doing some multiplication in there? ... a factor of
> say 2-5?
>
> Very interesting guys.
>
> James Mitchell wrote:
>
> >That's really cool.
> >
> >I have a chart of my own. This chart shows the volume of discussion by
> >component.
> >I haven't perfected the formula, but here's a first look.
> >
> >
> >
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.open-tools.org
> >
> >"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
> and I'm not
> >sure about the former."
> >- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
> >
>
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Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by Eddie Bush <ek...@swbell.net>.
That chart makes me feel like there should be some sort of
accompanyment. You know - a sound-track! The numbers look a bit high
though. Are you doing some multiplication in there? ... a factor of
say 2-5?
Very interesting guys.
James Mitchell wrote:
>That's really cool.
>
>I have a chart of my own. This chart shows the volume of discussion by
>component.
>I haven't perfected the formula, but here's a first look.
>
>
>
>James Mitchell
>Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
>http://www.open-tools.org
>
>"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
>sure about the former."
>- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
>
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RE: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
That's really cool.
I have a chart of my own. This chart shows the volume of discussion by
component.
I haven't perfected the formula, but here's a first look.
James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Holmes [mailto:jholmes612@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:18 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
>
>
> Very interesting!
>
> I would tend to agree with these numbers as the Struts
> Console download rate has significantly increased over
> time. I get over a hundred downloads a day now versus
> under 50 several months ago.
>
> I wonder if there are any numbers for how many Struts
> downloads there are? 1.0 vs 1.1 vs nighlty?
>
> -james
> http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/
>
>
> --- Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Back in Feburary of 2001 when I proposed to my new
> > employer that we use struts, one of the items I
> > looked at was
> > mailing list traffic, between it and other open
> > source projects.
> > I have been keeping that chart up to date and
> > thought people here
> > might find it interesting. This is a simplified
> > chart which only shows
> > tomcat and struts list traffic.
> >
> > Back then the tomcat mailing list traffic was so
> > large that it made the
> > struts mailing list traffic look like a straight
> > line. That has definately
> > changed !
> >
> > -Rob
> >
>
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Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, James Holmes wrote:
> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:18:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: James Holmes <jh...@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: Struts Users Mailing List <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
>
> Very interesting!
>
> I would tend to agree with these numbers as the Struts
> Console download rate has significantly increased over
> time. I get over a hundred downloads a day now versus
> under 50 several months ago.
>
> I wonder if there are any numbers for how many Struts
> downloads there are? 1.0 vs 1.1 vs nighlty?
>
> -james
> http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/
>
Last time I checked (several months ago), Struts downloads as a whole (I
didn't keep my notes on the split) were in the 10-20k/month range,
compared to Tomcat's 80-100k/month. I'll see if I can dig up some more
recent figures -- but I don't personally have access to any nice log
analysis software that would make this easy. Can someone point me to
something useful I can throw against (say) the October 2002 log files?
Craig
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Re: Graph of Struts Growth.l
Posted by James Holmes <jh...@yahoo.com>.
Very interesting!
I would tend to agree with these numbers as the Struts
Console download rate has significantly increased over
time. I get over a hundred downloads a day now versus
under 50 several months ago.
I wonder if there are any numbers for how many Struts
downloads there are? 1.0 vs 1.1 vs nighlty?
-james
http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/
--- Robert Leland <rl...@apache.org> wrote:
> Back in Feburary of 2001 when I proposed to my new
> employer that we use struts, one of the items I
> looked at was
> mailing list traffic, between it and other open
> source projects.
> I have been keeping that chart up to date and
> thought people here
> might find it interesting. This is a simplified
> chart which only shows
> tomcat and struts list traffic.
>
> Back then the tomcat mailing list traffic was so
> large that it made the
> struts mailing list traffic look like a straight
> line. That has definately
> changed !
>
> -Rob
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif
name=StrutsMailingListVolumn.gif
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