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Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Dear all, Geertjan,
I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
package.
I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
See: NETBEANS-341
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341>
I've got some info back
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610>
from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
Thank you in advance!
Laszlo Kishalmi
Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Well then,
There are two major kind of snaps: Classic and Sandboxed
Classic containers has full access to the OS stuff as of filesystems,
networking, devices
Sandboxed apps sees their own world.
As the IDE has many plugins and many external tools Sandboxed mode is
not suitable. That's why I build classic snaps (you need to specify
--classic on install)
Regarding classic snaps it can be considered as a read only tar.gz
extract somewhere on the filesystem. What makes it appealing is the wide
and hassle free distribution that snap offers, having different channels
like experimental, beta, stable, etc. and the auto update feature.
So no JDK is distributed with this package, no external libraries, it is
basically the result of the Ant based build with some Snapcraft
generated wrappers and a desktop file.
If someone would like to try to build it it is really easy. If you are
on Ubuntu 16.04+
You just need snapcraft, and the my snap branch (until the PR gets merged)
snap install snapcraft --classic
git clone git@github.com:lkishalmi/incubator-netbeans.git
cd incubator-netbeans
git checkout snap
cd nbbuild/packaging
snapcraft
On 04/22/2018 05:10 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, 09:35 Matthias Bläsing, <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> Laszlo comment on this here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/404#issuecomment-382096515
>
> Yes, I'd seen that and your comment about bundled OpenJDK (which would
> equally apply to Oracle JDK). Still wasn't sure, and have seen snaps
> bundling.
>
>
>> This sounds like something I would be interested in - is there
>> indication, that Oracle wants to switch away from GPLv2-CP to something
>> easier distributable?
>>
> No, but that's kind of opposite to what I was thinking. And GPLv2-CPE is
> generally easy to distribute, except by us!
>
> I meant that we're allowed a JDK dependency because it's considered a
> platform dependency in Apache. But with a general move away from a system
> installed JDK and towards self-contained app bundles like this, we may find
> it harder to ship convenience binaries in future in ways that align with
> what people expect on each OS.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
>> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
>
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Matthias Bläsing <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>.
Hi Neil,
Am Sonntag, den 22.04.2018, 12:10 +0000 schrieb Neil C Smith:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, 09:35 Matthias Bläsing, <mb...@doppel-helix.eu> wrote:
> This sounds like something I would be interested in - is there
> > indication, that Oracle wants to switch away from GPLv2-CP to
> > something
> > easier distributable?
> >
>
> No, but that's kind of opposite to what I was thinking. And GPLv2-CPE is
> generally easy to distribute, except by us!
>
> I meant that we're allowed a JDK dependency because it's considered a
> platform dependency in Apache. But with a general move away from a system
> installed JDK and towards self-contained app bundles like this, we may find
> it harder to ship convenience binaries in future in ways that align with
> what people expect on each OS.
I see two options: Either we find a supplier, that ships Java with a
compatible license (yeah I doubt that, that even exists), or the apache
foundation revises its policy regarding GPLv2-CPE for this class of
redistribution.
And there is a third option: Create a secondary project outside the
apache foundation, that takes vanilla netbeans source, builds the IDE
and bundles it with the JRE and distributes the resulting binary.
The JDK can't be bundled in any case, as to my knowledge GPLv2 is
incompatible with the ALv2.
Greetings
Matthias
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, 09:35 Matthias Bläsing, <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>
wrote:
> Laszlo comment on this here:
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/404#issuecomment-382096515
Yes, I'd seen that and your comment about bundled OpenJDK (which would
equally apply to Oracle JDK). Still wasn't sure, and have seen snaps
bundling.
> This sounds like something I would be interested in - is there
> indication, that Oracle wants to switch away from GPLv2-CP to something
> easier distributable?
>
No, but that's kind of opposite to what I was thinking. And GPLv2-CPE is
generally easy to distribute, except by us!
I meant that we're allowed a JDK dependency because it's considered a
platform dependency in Apache. But with a general move away from a system
installed JDK and towards self-contained app bundles like this, we may find
it harder to ship convenience binaries in future in ways that align with
what people expect on each OS.
Best wishes,
Neil
> --
Neil C Smith
Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net
Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Matthias Bläsing <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>.
Hi Neil,
Am Sonntag, den 22.04.2018, 08:27 +0000 schrieb Neil C Smith:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, 07:05 Laszlo Kishalmi, <la...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Once we can provide our official signed versions the '--dangerous'
> > flag
> > would not be required.
> >
>
> I've been reading this thread, but not looked at the actual snap yet.
> Does it bundle a JDK or rely on another snap? AFAIK we could never
> distribute a bundled JDK via Apache
Laszlo comment on this here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/404#issuecomment-382096515
I had a quick look at the contents of the snap and indeed it is mostly
the copy of the netbeans directory.
> - a situation I hope might change for platform
> dependencies in future given the evolving nature of Java deployment!
This sounds like something I would be interested in - is there
indication, that Oracle wants to switch away from GPLv2-CP to something
easier distributable?
Greetings,
Matthias
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, 07:05 Laszlo Kishalmi, <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Once we can provide our official signed versions the '--dangerous' flag
> would not be required.
>
I've been reading this thread, but not looked at the actual snap yet. Does
it bundle a JDK or rely on another snap? AFAIK we could never distribute a
bundled JDK via Apache - a situation I hope might change for platform
dependencies in future given the evolving nature of Java deployment!
Best wishes,
Neil
> --
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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net
Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Yes. It is my own build just being distributed as a file on an S3 bucket.
Once we can provide our official signed versions the '--dangerous' flag
would not be required.
Snap help on dangerous:
--dangerous Install the given snap file even if there are no
pre-acknowledged signatures for it, meaning it was not verified and
could be dangerous (--devmode implies this)
On 04/21/2018 10:43 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> This being an unofficial package made by you Laszlo, correct?
>
> The '--dangerous' flag doesn't look reassuring.
>
> --emi
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On 19 April 2018 11:13 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The (undecided) 9.0 release candidate is available as snap:
>>
>> |wget
>>
>> https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/lkishalmi-us-west-2-public/snaps/netbeans_9.0-rc_amd64.snap
>>
>> sudo snap install netbeans_9.0-rc_amd64.snap --dangerous --classic|
>>
>> On 02/20/2018 05:08 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 12:47 constantin drabo drconstantin@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it will good . It will be an opportunity to bring back NetBeans to
>>>>
>>>> Fedora Community after several years of mistrust .
>>> +1 to providing the possibility of a Snap package, but I'm slightly
>>>
>>> intrigued what this mistrust was about, and amused that Snap is a way to
>>>
>>> address it!
>>>
>>> There is the question of where Flatpak or AppImage sit with this?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Neil
>
>
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@protonmail.ch>.
This being an unofficial package made by you Laszlo, correct?
The '--dangerous' flag doesn't look reassuring.
--emi
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On 19 April 2018 11:13 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The (undecided) 9.0 release candidate is available as snap:
>
> |wget
>
> https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/lkishalmi-us-west-2-public/snaps/netbeans_9.0-rc_amd64.snap
>
> sudo snap install netbeans_9.0-rc_amd64.snap --dangerous --classic|
>
> On 02/20/2018 05:08 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 12:47 constantin drabo drconstantin@hotmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think it will good . It will be an opportunity to bring back NetBeans to
> > >
> > > Fedora Community after several years of mistrust .
> >
> > +1 to providing the possibility of a Snap package, but I'm slightly
> >
> > intrigued what this mistrust was about, and amused that Snap is a way to
> >
> > address it!
> >
> > There is the question of where Flatpak or AppImage sit with this?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
The (undecided) 9.0 release candidate is available as snap:
|wget
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/lkishalmi-us-west-2-public/snaps/netbeans_9.0-rc_amd64.snap
sudo snap install netbeans_9.0-rc_amd64.snap --dangerous --classic|
On 02/20/2018 05:08 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 12:47 constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it will good . It will be an opportunity to bring back NetBeans to
>> Fedora Community after several years of mistrust .
>>
> +1 to providing the possibility of a Snap package, but I'm slightly
> intrigued what this mistrust was about, and amused that Snap is a way to
> address it!
>
> There is the question of where Flatpak or AppImage sit with this?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 12:47 constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I think it will good . It will be an opportunity to bring back NetBeans to
> Fedora Community after several years of mistrust .
>
+1 to providing the possibility of a Snap package, but I'm slightly
intrigued what this mistrust was about, and amused that Snap is a way to
address it!
There is the question of where Flatpak or AppImage sit with this?
Best wishes,
Neil
--
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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net
Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
RE: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>.
Hello Laszlo,
I think it will good . It will be an opportunity to bring back NetBeans to Fedora Community after several years of mistrust .
Constantin
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De : Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
Envoyé : dimanche 18 février 2018 18:49
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org; geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com
Objet : Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Dear all, Geertjan,
I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
package.
I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
See: NETBEANS-341
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341>
I've got some info back
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610>
from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
Thank you in advance!
Laszlo Kishalmi
Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
See my reply in-line
On 02/18/2018 11:19 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> Any kind of native OS integration helps.
>
> I wouldn't want to depend on another service (like snapcraft.io).
>
> We have our own Jenkins instance on Apache. Can't we build the snaps
> ourselves?
Certainly we can. As of Daniel: If they wish to use their own CI system
then the steps are a bit different. In this case they need to login with
a launchpad account at dashboard.snapcraft.io and register the netbeans
name there. Again they will be prompted to file a claim on the name
because it’s reserved, which can be answered the same way as above. Once
they’ve registered the snap they will need to configure their CI system
to build a .snap file and upload to the store on their own schedules.
This method allows much more control, but comes at the expense of
requiring more configuration. I don’t know the relevant details to
configure a CI system to allow uploading to the store, but I believe you
need to save an authorization token and use snapcraft CLI to upload.
I think the only requirements would be a recent Ubuntu LTS and snapcraft
installed to build the snap.
>
> We also have GitHub builds via Travis with dedicated Apache machines.
> Is it also impossible to build these snaps with Travis?
Could work as well, though the configuration of Travis might be tricky
due to the authtoken and thr sna
>
> At first, just having the scripts in place for these builds would be
> great (your PR kinda does this already).
>
> Then we have to see if this is a convenience binary we want to provide
> in the future. If we commit on it, we have to maintain it. If it's
> just an experiment we could have an alpha binary or something available.
>
> It would be nice to comment what you are doing there. As somebody that
> never used snap, it's unclear to me what these lines do:
Well these lines replace the default cache and userdir in netbeans
launcher script in order to use Snap managed directories, so if you
remove netbeans as snap these dirs would be removed as well, so we won't
leave garbage behind. (Though I'm not entirely sure that this would be
the recommended behavior.) Anyway I'm going to add the comments to the PR.
>
> sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/data/'
> $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
> sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.cache\/netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/cache/'
> $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
>
> One of them seems to configure some caching? Is this NetBeans-level
> caching or something snap specific?
>
> --emi
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On 19 February 2018 9:07 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi
> <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, at first, I'd utilize the Snapcraft.io build service, so if we
>> need someone who can register a github hook on the repository on
>> build.snapcraft.io. They are building the master branch (AFAIK), so the
>> PR to the issue NETBEANS-341
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>> needs to be merged there. Also the apache/netbeans member who does the
>> binding might need to proof that he/she act on behalf of the NetBeans
>> project as the name netbeans is reserved on snapcraft.io.
>>
>> Well, let's try to do it step by step
>>
>>
>> On 02/18/2018 10:53 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> Sure, make it happen! What kind of support or insights do you need
>>> for this?
>>> Gj
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> hey
>>>> Dear all, Geertjan,
>>>> I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
>>>> package.
>>>> I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be
>>>> done.
>>>> See: NETBEANS-341
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>>>> I've got some info back
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610
>>>>
>>>> from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
>>>> I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further
>>>> discussion, on
>>>> how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
See my reply in-line
On 02/18/2018 11:19 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> Any kind of native OS integration helps.
>
> I wouldn't want to depend on another service (like snapcraft.io).
>
> We have our own Jenkins instance on Apache. Can't we build the snaps ourselves?
Certainly we can. As of Daniel: If they wish to use their own CI system
then the steps are a bit different. In this case they need to login with
a launchpad account at dashboard.snapcraft.io and register the netbeans
name there. Again they will be prompted to file a claim on the name
because it’s reserved, which can be answered the same way as above. Once
they’ve registered the snap they will need to configure their CI system
to build a .snap file and upload to the store on their own schedules.
This method allows much more control, but comes at the expense of
requiring more configuration. I don’t know the relevant details to
configure a CI system to allow uploading to the store, but I believe you
need to save an authorization token and use snapcraft CLI to upload.
I think the only requirements would be a recent Ubuntu LTS and snapcraft
installed to build the snap.
>
> We also have GitHub builds via Travis with dedicated Apache machines. Is it also impossible to build these snaps with Travis?
Could work as well, though the configuration of Travis might be tricky
due to the authtoken and thr sna
>
> At first, just having the scripts in place for these builds would be great (your PR kinda does this already).
>
> Then we have to see if this is a convenience binary we want to provide in the future. If we commit on it, we have to maintain it. If it's just an experiment we could have an alpha binary or something available.
>
> It would be nice to comment what you are doing there. As somebody that never used snap, it's unclear to me what these lines do:
Well these lines replace the default cache and userdir in netbeans
launcher script in order to use Snap managed directories, so if you
remove netbeans as snap these dirs would be removed as well, so we won't
leave garbage behind. (Though I'm not entirely sure that this would be
the recommended behavior.) Anyway I'm going to add the comments to the PR.
>
> sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/data/' $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
> sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.cache\/netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/cache/' $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
>
> One of them seems to configure some caching? Is this NetBeans-level caching or something snap specific?
>
> --emi
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On 19 February 2018 9:07 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, at first, I'd utilize the Snapcraft.io build service, so if we
>> need someone who can register a github hook on the repository on
>> build.snapcraft.io. They are building the master branch (AFAIK), so the
>> PR to the issue NETBEANS-341
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>> needs to be merged there. Also the apache/netbeans member who does the
>> binding might need to proof that he/she act on behalf of the NetBeans
>> project as the name netbeans is reserved on snapcraft.io.
>>
>> Well, let's try to do it step by step
>>
>>
>> On 02/18/2018 10:53 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> Sure, make it happen! What kind of support or insights do you need for this?
>>> Gj
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> hey
>>>> Dear all, Geertjan,
>>>> I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
>>>> package.
>>>> I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
>>>> See: NETBEANS-341
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>>>> I've got some info back
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610
>>>> from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
>>>> I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
>>>> how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
PR #404 is still open. Could somebody review that?
On 02/18/2018 11:19 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> Any kind of native OS integration helps.
>
> I wouldn't want to depend on another service (like snapcraft.io).
>
> We have our own Jenkins instance on Apache. Can't we build the snaps ourselves?
>
> We also have GitHub builds via Travis with dedicated Apache machines. Is it also impossible to build these snaps with Travis?
>
> At first, just having the scripts in place for these builds would be great (your PR kinda does this already).
>
> Then we have to see if this is a convenience binary we want to provide in the future. If we commit on it, we have to maintain it. If it's just an experiment we could have an alpha binary or something available.
>
> It would be nice to comment what you are doing there. As somebody that never used snap, it's unclear to me what these lines do:
>
> sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/data/' $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
> sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.cache\/netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/cache/' $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
>
> One of them seems to configure some caching? Is this NetBeans-level caching or something snap specific?
>
> --emi
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On 19 February 2018 9:07 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, at first, I'd utilize the Snapcraft.io build service, so if we
>> need someone who can register a github hook on the repository on
>> build.snapcraft.io. They are building the master branch (AFAIK), so the
>> PR to the issue NETBEANS-341
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>> needs to be merged there. Also the apache/netbeans member who does the
>> binding might need to proof that he/she act on behalf of the NetBeans
>> project as the name netbeans is reserved on snapcraft.io.
>>
>> Well, let's try to do it step by step
>>
>>
>> On 02/18/2018 10:53 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> Sure, make it happen! What kind of support or insights do you need for this?
>>> Gj
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> hey
>>>> Dear all, Geertjan,
>>>> I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
>>>> package.
>>>> I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
>>>> See: NETBEANS-341
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>>>> I've got some info back
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610
>>>> from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
>>>> I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
>>>> how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>>
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@protonmail.ch>.
Any kind of native OS integration helps.
I wouldn't want to depend on another service (like snapcraft.io).
We have our own Jenkins instance on Apache. Can't we build the snaps ourselves?
We also have GitHub builds via Travis with dedicated Apache machines. Is it also impossible to build these snaps with Travis?
At first, just having the scripts in place for these builds would be great (your PR kinda does this already).
Then we have to see if this is a convenience binary we want to provide in the future. If we commit on it, we have to maintain it. If it's just an experiment we could have an alpha binary or something available.
It would be nice to comment what you are doing there. As somebody that never used snap, it's unclear to me what these lines do:
sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/data/' $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
sed -i 's/${HOME}\/.cache\/netbeans/${SNAP_USER_COMMON}\/cache/' $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL/netbeans/bin/netbeans
One of them seems to configure some caching? Is this NetBeans-level caching or something snap specific?
--emi
-------- Original Message --------
On 19 February 2018 9:07 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Well, at first, I'd utilize the Snapcraft.io build service, so if we
> need someone who can register a github hook on the repository on
>build.snapcraft.io. They are building the master branch (AFAIK), so the
> PR to the issue NETBEANS-341
>https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>needs to be merged there. Also the apache/netbeans member who does the
> binding might need to proof that he/she act on behalf of the NetBeans
> project as the name netbeans is reserved on snapcraft.io.
>
> Well, let's try to do it step by step
>
>
> On 02/18/2018 10:53 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>Sure, make it happen! What kind of support or insights do you need for this?
>>Gj
>>On Monday, February 19, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> hey
>>>Dear all, Geertjan,
>>>I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
>>> package.
>>>I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
>>> See: NETBEANS-341
>>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341
>>>I've got some info back
>>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610
>>> from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
>>>I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
>>> how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
>>>Thank you in advance!
>>>Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>
>>
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Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Well, at first, I'd utilize the Snapcraft.io build service, so if we
need someone who can register a github hook on the repository on
build.snapcraft.io. They are building the master branch (AFAIK), so the
PR to the issue NETBEANS-341
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341>
needs to be merged there. Also the apache/netbeans member who does the
binding might need to proof that he/she act on behalf of the NetBeans
project as the name netbeans is reserved on snapcraft.io.
Well, let's try to do it step by step
On 02/18/2018 10:53 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Sure, make it happen! What kind of support or insights do you need for this?
>
> Gj
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> hey
>> Dear all, Geertjan,
>>
>> I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
>> package.
>>
>> I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
>> See: NETBEANS-341
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341>
>>
>> I've got some info back
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610>
>> from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
>>
>> I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
>> how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>
Re: Snap Packaging of NetBeans
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Sure, make it happen! What kind of support or insights do you need for this?
Gj
On Monday, February 19, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear all, Geertjan,
>
> I'm about to have NetBeans available as a Linux Distro agnostic Snap
> package.
>
> I've tried to collect some information what and how it needs to be done.
> See: NETBEANS-341
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-341>
>
> I've got some info back
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16367610>
> from the Snap team what shall/could we do in order to make it happen.
>
> I thought to bring up this stuff here as well for further discussion, on
> how, when would we move forward with this if we are interested at all.
>
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>