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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Justin Johnson <eg...@gmail.com> on 2009/02/20 18:31:11 UTC

Fwd: Default value for global-ignores - Import excluded .so files

Forwarding to dev since this seems more like a dev issue.  Thanks.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: JJ <eg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Default value for global-ignores - Import excluded .so files
To: users@subversion.tigris.org


More info.  Between 1.4.6 and 1.5.0 .so files were added to the default
values in
http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/tags/1.5.0/subversion/include/svn_config.h.

Again my point is that I think these default values are dangerous and that
nothing should be ignored by default.

  On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:58 AM, JJ <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I currently have the same issue as described in this thread.
>
> http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2008-11/0211.shtml
>
> I'm trying to import the JDK and all .so files are being quietly excluded
> from the import every time.  The above thread points to .so files being
> included in the default value for global-ignore even though the book doesn't
> include it in the list, as can be seen at
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.confarea.html#svn.advanced.confarea.opts
> .
>
> My thought is that having default ignore values is a mistake to begin
> with.  It seems dangerous to me to have a default ignore value that prevents
> Subversion from importing certain files and having that default value
> quietly documented (ignoring the error in the doc for now) in an obscure
> section of the documentation or a config file that they wouldn't necessarily
> read for a long time.
>
> Does anyone else agree?  Am I missing some important use case that drove
> this decision in the first place?
>
> Thanks.
> Justin
>

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Re: Default value for global-ignores - Import excluded .so files

Posted by Justin Johnson <eg...@gmail.com>.
I was thinking it was dev in the sense that I'm suggesting a change in
Subversion itself, which requires the developers to be involved in the
conversation.  I'll stay on users though if that is where I should be.

Thanks.
Justin

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Erik Huelsmann <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why is this a dev issue? I mean does it pertain the development OF
> subversion? Or the use and development WITH subversion?
>
> Bye,
>
> Erik.
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Justin Johnson
> <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Forwarding to dev since this seems more like a dev issue.  Thanks.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: JJ <eg...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: Default value for global-ignores - Import excluded .so files
> > To: users@subversion.tigris.org
> >
> >
> > More info.  Between 1.4.6 and 1.5.0 .so files were added to the default
> > values in
> >
> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/tags/1.5.0/subversion/include/svn_config.h
> .
> >
> > Again my point is that I think these default values are dangerous and
> that
> > nothing should be ignored by default.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:58 AM, JJ <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I currently have the same issue as described in this thread.
> >>
> >> http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2008-11/0211.shtml
> >>
> >> I'm trying to import the JDK and all .so files are being quietly
> excluded
> >> from the import every time.  The above thread points to .so files being
> >> included in the default value for global-ignore even though the book
> doesn't
> >> include it in the list, as can be seen at
> >>
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.confarea.html#svn.advanced.confarea.opts
> .
> >>
> >> My thought is that having default ignore values is a mistake to begin
> >> with.  It seems dangerous to me to have a default ignore value that
> prevents
> >> Subversion from importing certain files and having that default value
> >> quietly documented (ignoring the error in the doc for now) in an obscure
> >> section of the documentation or a config file that they wouldn't
> necessarily
> >> read for a long time.
> >>
> >> Does anyone else agree?  Am I missing some important use case that drove
> >> this decision in the first place?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >> Justin
> >
> >
>

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Re: Default value for global-ignores - Import excluded .so files

Posted by Erik Huelsmann <eh...@gmail.com>.
Why is this a dev issue? I mean does it pertain the development OF
subversion? Or the use and development WITH subversion?

Bye,

Erik.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Justin Johnson
<eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding to dev since this seems more like a dev issue.  Thanks.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: JJ <eg...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Default value for global-ignores - Import excluded .so files
> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
>
>
> More info.  Between 1.4.6 and 1.5.0 .so files were added to the default
> values in
> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/tags/1.5.0/subversion/include/svn_config.h.
>
> Again my point is that I think these default values are dangerous and that
> nothing should be ignored by default.
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:58 AM, JJ <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I currently have the same issue as described in this thread.
>>
>> http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2008-11/0211.shtml
>>
>> I'm trying to import the JDK and all .so files are being quietly excluded
>> from the import every time.  The above thread points to .so files being
>> included in the default value for global-ignore even though the book doesn't
>> include it in the list, as can be seen at
>> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.confarea.html#svn.advanced.confarea.opts.
>>
>> My thought is that having default ignore values is a mistake to begin
>> with.  It seems dangerous to me to have a default ignore value that prevents
>> Subversion from importing certain files and having that default value
>> quietly documented (ignoring the error in the doc for now) in an obscure
>> section of the documentation or a config file that they wouldn't necessarily
>> read for a long time.
>>
>> Does anyone else agree?  Am I missing some important use case that drove
>> this decision in the first place?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Justin
>
>

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