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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Chris <cp...@embarqmail.com> on 2009/08/06 02:12:07 UTC

Making this FN correctly scored as spam

http://pastebin.com/m5e126ea

This came to one of my address where what I usually get is 99% spam and
was scored as ham, no matter what I've done I can't get it to score the
minimum +5 points. After learning it as spam with sa-learn and using
spamassassin -r to report to razor/pyzor/dcc and removing the senders
address from the AWL with spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist it
still scores below the required:

Content analysis details:   (1.6 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name              description
---- ----------------------
--------------------------------------------------
-0.1 RCVD_IN_JMF_W          RBL: JunkEmailFilter: relay in white list
(first pass)
                      [66.114.171.113 listed in
hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com]
-4.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED      RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/,
medium
                             trust
                            [66.114.171.113 listed in list.dnswl.org]
 5.0 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to
100%
                            [score: 1.0000]
-0.0 SPF_PASS               SPF: sender matches SPF record
 0.0 DK_SIGNED              Domain Keys: message has a signature
 0.0 DKIM_SIGNED            Domain Keys Identified Mail: message has a
signature
 0.0 MIME_HTML_MOSTLY       BODY: Multipart message mostly text/html
MIME
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
 0.7 MPART_ALT_DIFF         BODY: HTML and text parts are different
 2.2 DCC_CHECK              listed in DCC
(http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
                            [localhost 1201; Body=many Fuz1=many]
                            [Fuz2=many]
-2.2 KHOP_RCVD_TRUST        DNS-Whitelisted sender is verified

These are few and far between however there were two today that made it
past. Any suggestions would be appreciated

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KeyID 0xE372A7DA98E6705C


Re: Making this FN correctly scored as spam

Posted by Chris <cp...@embarqmail.com>.
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 10:55 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Chris wrote:
> > http://pastebin.com/m5e126ea
> > This came to one of my address where what I usually get is 99% spam and
> > was scored as ham, no matter what I've done...
> 
> I find it *extremely* rare for a spammer to use their own e-mail address 
> and server to send their mail.
> 
> So this, plus the whitelisting, leads me to suspect that you've run into a 
> case where your address has been 'acquired' from some 'public' source, 
> such as a business directory, and the offending sender has made the 
> mistake of thinking that it is an open contact/solicitation address.
> 
> Or there may be an illegitimate marketing firm selling lists that they've 
> culled from 'public' sources, but which they have represented as 
> 'verified' to buyers. Doubtless webex will pay for their mistake with
> reduced whitelisting.... :)
> 
> - C
This was sent to a domain I own, toadnet[dot]com. Its never been used on
any lists nor at any sites for registration. Though I'd suspect it's the
same and my address getting harvested from freenet[dot]de or anywhere
else. There is no business involved with my domain. I usually let these
slide and just learn and spam, report, and continue on, since this one
was not being cooperative thought I'd seek the knowledge of the masses.
One thing I did do besides reporting to dnswl and the jmf errors address
was run spamassassin -add-address-to-blacklist which gave it a positive
score in the 40's range.

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Re: Making this FN correctly scored as spam

Posted by Charles Gregory <cg...@hwcn.org>.
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Chris wrote:
> http://pastebin.com/m5e126ea
> This came to one of my address where what I usually get is 99% spam and
> was scored as ham, no matter what I've done...

I find it *extremely* rare for a spammer to use their own e-mail address 
and server to send their mail.

So this, plus the whitelisting, leads me to suspect that you've run into a 
case where your address has been 'acquired' from some 'public' source, 
such as a business directory, and the offending sender has made the 
mistake of thinking that it is an open contact/solicitation address.

Or there may be an illegitimate marketing firm selling lists that they've 
culled from 'public' sources, but which they have represented as 
'verified' to buyers. Doubtless webex will pay for their mistake with
reduced whitelisting.... :)

- C

Re: Making this FN correctly scored as spam

Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:12:07 -0500
Chris <cp...@embarqmail.com> wrote:


> -2.2 KHOP_RCVD_TRUST        DNS-Whitelisted sender is verified

Personally I don't see the point of this one. It's the |IP address
that's trusted, any additional domain-based authentication tells you
nothing. 

If spam comes from a semi-legitimate direct-marketer, it's pretty
likely to pass authentication. Hacked mail accounts are likely to pass
too.

Re: Making this FN correctly scored as spam

Posted by Chris <cp...@embarqmail.com>.
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 03:52 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 19:12 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > This came to one of my address where what I usually get is 99% spam and
> > was scored as ham, no matter what I've done I can't get it to score the
> 
> Without looking at the sample provided...
> 
> > -0.1 RCVD_IN_JMF_W          RBL: JunkEmailFilter: relay in white list
> > -4.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED      RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust
> 
> Tell the whitelists about it.
> 
> > -2.2 KHOP_RCVD_TRUST        DNS-Whitelisted sender is verified
> 
> And re-verify your custom rules. Copied is custom, too.
> 
> 
Thanks for the suggestion Karsten, I did report it to both, I received a
reply from dnswl and they've lowered the score for the offending IP.

Chris

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Re: Making this FN correctly scored as spam

Posted by Karsten Bräckelmann <gu...@rudersport.de>.
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 19:12 -0500, Chris wrote:
> This came to one of my address where what I usually get is 99% spam and
> was scored as ham, no matter what I've done I can't get it to score the

Without looking at the sample provided...

> -0.1 RCVD_IN_JMF_W          RBL: JunkEmailFilter: relay in white list
> -4.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED      RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust

Tell the whitelists about it.

> -2.2 KHOP_RCVD_TRUST        DNS-Whitelisted sender is verified

And re-verify your custom rules. Copied is custom, too.


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Re: Making this FN correctly scored as spam

Posted by Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann <ic...@bornefeld-ettmann.de>.
Chris schrieb:
> http://pastebin.com/m5e126ea
> 
> This came to one of my address where what I usually get is 99% spam and
> was scored as ham, no matter what I've done I can't get it to score the
> minimum +5 points. After learning it as spam with sa-learn and using
> spamassassin -r to report to razor/pyzor/dcc and removing the senders
> address from the AWL with spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist it
> still scores below the required:
> 
> Content analysis details:   (1.6 points, 5.0 required)
> 
>  pts rule name              description
> ---- ----------------------
> --------------------------------------------------
> -0.1 RCVD_IN_JMF_W          RBL: JunkEmailFilter: relay in white list
> (first pass)
>                       [66.114.171.113 listed in
> hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com]
> -4.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED      RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/,
> medium
>                              trust
>                             [66.114.171.113 listed in list.dnswl.org]
>  5.0 BAYES_99               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to
> 100%
>                             [score: 1.0000]
> -0.0 SPF_PASS               SPF: sender matches SPF record
>  0.0 DK_SIGNED              Domain Keys: message has a signature
>  0.0 DKIM_SIGNED            Domain Keys Identified Mail: message has a
> signature
>  0.0 MIME_HTML_MOSTLY       BODY: Multipart message mostly text/html
> MIME
>  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
>  0.7 MPART_ALT_DIFF         BODY: HTML and text parts are different
>  2.2 DCC_CHECK              listed in DCC
> (http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)
>                             [localhost 1201; Body=many Fuz1=many]
>                             [Fuz2=many]
> -2.2 KHOP_RCVD_TRUST        DNS-Whitelisted sender is verified
> 
> These are few and far between however there were two today that made it
> past. Any suggestions would be appreciated
> 
what about

header    webex1              Received =~ /webexmailer.com/i
describe  webex1              Mail from webexmailer
score     webex1              10.0

header    webex2              Received =~ /webex.com/i
describe  webex2              Mail from webexmailer
score     webex2              10.0

It seems webexmailer is a trusted mass-mailer so you have to overrule 
the trusted whitelists (JMF, DNSWL, KHOP)

Ralph