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podling report draft - September 2019

Hi,

I finish the draft of the report.
Please supply the content if I miss something.

IoTDB is a data store for managing large amounts of time series data such
as timestamped data from IoT sensors in industrial applications.

IoTDB has been incubating since 2018-11-18.

1. Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:

- Discuss a  plan for releasing future versions (e.g., how long time to
release a new major/minor version)

- Discuss the roadmap of future versions (what features we want to do in
the next version)

- Write documents for introducing the system architecture and code
structures to make it easy to let contributors join.

2. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

- No

3. How has the community developed since the last report?

- Some new contributors joined the community.  E.g., PR#339 comes from a
new contributor and it is really an interesting feature.

- Some contributors (who are not committers yet) are more active than
before. E.g., Boris Zhu and Jack Tsai.

- More users began to report their issues. E.g.,  issue #171, #184 and #186.

As all the above contributions and contributors are not from the
institutions/companies where initial committers are, we think it is a good
signal that indicates more guys noticing the community.

4. How has the project developed since the last report?

- IoTDB releases its first Apache version: v0.8.0 !

- IoTDB is more stable and the performance is far better than before.
However, the version is incompatible with previous version (which are
released before IoTDB is denoted to ASF).

- In v0.8.0, many issues are resolved (see release notes:
http://iotdb.apache.org/#/Materials/Release%20Notes )

5. How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add
your own commentary.

 [  ] Initial setup
 [  ] Working towards first release
 [ x ] Community building
 [  ] Nearing graduation
 [  ] Other:

Date of last release:

- 08/25/2019

When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?

- 07/15/2019

Have your mentors been helpful?

- Yes

Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling through
the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues that need to be
addressed.

- They are helpful, especially in the process of releasing the first
version.

Signed-off-by:

 (iotdb) Justin Mclean Comments:
 (iotdb) Christofer Dutz Comments:
 (iotdb) Willem Ning Jiang Comments:
 (iotdb) Kevin A. McGrail Comments:

Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University

 黄向东
清华大学 软件学院

AW: podling report draft - September 2019

Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
I like it. Julian

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-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: podling report draft - September 2019
Von: Xiangdong Huang
An: dev@iotdb.apache.org
Cc:

Hi,

I update the draft according to Chris and Justin's suggestions. If there is
no more suggestion, I will update it to the confluence.

IoTDB is a data store for managing large amounts of time series data such
as timestamped data from IoT sensors in industrial applications.

IoTDB has been incubating since 2018-11-18.

1. Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:

- Make the community (both the contributors and committers/PPMCs) more
diverse  and learn to discuss things on the mailing list.

- More committers should know how to release a version.

- Write more documentation to help new contributors.

2. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

- No

3. How has the community developed since the last report?

- Some new contributors joined the community.  E.g., PR#339 comes from a
new contributor and it is really an interesting feature.

- Some contributors (who are not committers yet) are more active than
before. E.g., Boris Zhu and Jack Tsai.

- More users began to report their issues. E.g.,  issue #171, #184 and #186.

As all the above contributions and contributors are not from the
institutions/companies where initial committers are, we think it is a good
signal that indicates more guys noticing the community.

4. How has the project developed since the last report?

- IoTDB releases its first Apache version: v0.8.0 !

- IoTDB is more stable and the performance is far better than before.
However, the version is incompatible with previous version (which are
released before IoTDB is denoted to ASF).

- In v0.8.0, many issues are resolved (see release notes:
http://iotdb.apache.org/#/Materials/Release%20Notes )

5. How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add
your own commentary.

 [  ] Initial setup
 [  ] Working towards first release
 [ x ] Community building
 [  ] Nearing graduation
 [  ] Other:

Date of last release:

- 08/25/2019

When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?

- 07/15/2019

Have your mentors been helpful?

- Yes

Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling through
the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues that need to be
addressed.

- They are helpful, especially in the process of releasing the first
version.

Signed-off-by:

 (iotdb) Justin Mclean Comments:
 (iotdb) Christofer Dutz Comments:
 (iotdb) Willem Ning Jiang Comments:
 (iotdb) Kevin A. McGrail Comments:


-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University

 黄向东
清华大学 软件学院


Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> 于2019年8月31日周六 下午5:31写道:

> Hi,
>
> I was going to say something similar but Chris got there first.
>
> > - Have a plan for the future releasing (e.g., how long time to release a
> > new major/minor version).
>
> I would not list this as am issue, the question is does it block
> graduation? In this case it does not as there is no need for a plan like
> this. Not having a plan may be better and fit in more with a voluntary
> group of contributors.
>
> IMO Having documentation to help new contributors is far more important.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: podling report draft - September 2019

Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I update the draft according to Chris and Justin's suggestions. If there is
no more suggestion, I will update it to the confluence.

IoTDB is a data store for managing large amounts of time series data such
as timestamped data from IoT sensors in industrial applications.

IoTDB has been incubating since 2018-11-18.

1. Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:

- Make the community (both the contributors and committers/PPMCs) more
diverse  and learn to discuss things on the mailing list.

- More committers should know how to release a version.

- Write more documentation to help new contributors.

2. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

- No

3. How has the community developed since the last report?

- Some new contributors joined the community.  E.g., PR#339 comes from a
new contributor and it is really an interesting feature.

- Some contributors (who are not committers yet) are more active than
before. E.g., Boris Zhu and Jack Tsai.

- More users began to report their issues. E.g.,  issue #171, #184 and #186.

As all the above contributions and contributors are not from the
institutions/companies where initial committers are, we think it is a good
signal that indicates more guys noticing the community.

4. How has the project developed since the last report?

- IoTDB releases its first Apache version: v0.8.0 !

- IoTDB is more stable and the performance is far better than before.
However, the version is incompatible with previous version (which are
released before IoTDB is denoted to ASF).

- In v0.8.0, many issues are resolved (see release notes:
http://iotdb.apache.org/#/Materials/Release%20Notes )

5. How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add
your own commentary.

 [  ] Initial setup
 [  ] Working towards first release
 [ x ] Community building
 [  ] Nearing graduation
 [  ] Other:

Date of last release:

- 08/25/2019

When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?

- 07/15/2019

Have your mentors been helpful?

- Yes

Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling through
the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues that need to be
addressed.

- They are helpful, especially in the process of releasing the first
version.

Signed-off-by:

 (iotdb) Justin Mclean Comments:
 (iotdb) Christofer Dutz Comments:
 (iotdb) Willem Ning Jiang Comments:
 (iotdb) Kevin A. McGrail Comments:


-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University

 黄向东
清华大学 软件学院


Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> 于2019年8月31日周六 下午5:31写道:

> Hi,
>
> I was going to say something similar but Chris got there first.
>
> > - Have a plan for the future releasing (e.g., how long time to release a
> > new major/minor version).
>
> I would not list this as am issue, the question is does it block
> graduation? In this case it does not as there is no need for a plan like
> this. Not having a plan may be better and fit in more with a voluntary
> group of contributors.
>
> IMO Having documentation to help new contributors is far more important.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: podling report draft - September 2019

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

I was going to say something similar but Chris got there first.

> - Have a plan for the future releasing (e.g., how long time to release a
> new major/minor version).

I would not list this as am issue, the question is does it block graduation? In this case it does not as there is no need for a plan like this. Not having a plan may be better and fit in more with a voluntary group of contributors.

IMO Having documentation to help new contributors is far more important.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: podling report draft - September 2019

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Sounds good to me.

Chris

Am 31.08.19, 08:48 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <sa...@gmail.com>:

    Hi Chris,
    
    I agree. At least  for me, I think it is difficult to finish all steps for
    releasing just myself...
    
    How about change the "Three most important unfinished issues to address
    before graduating" as,
    
    - Make the community (both the contributors and committers/PPMCs) more
    diverse  and learn to discuss things on the mailing list.
    - More committers should know how to release a version.
    - Have a plan for the future releasing (e.g., how long time to release a
    new major/minor version).
    
    I merged the 3 points into 2, and retain one from the draft.
    
    Best,
    -----------------------------------
    Xiangdong Huang
    School of Software, Tsinghua University
    
     黄向东
    清华大学 软件学院
    
    
    Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2019年8月30日周五 下午11:27写道:
    
    > I think some of the points needed for graduation should be :
    >
    > - learn to discuss things on the mailinglist
    > - grow a mit diverse community (as it feels like all ppmcs seem to be well
    > connected and for me there's the impression of off list coordination). So
    > you definitely need some outsiders in the ppmc.
    > - during the release I had the impression most of the ppmcs were not doing
    > their ppmc duties in thoroughly evaluating the rc. You need to learn how to
    > release stuff. It worked this time because you had huge help by your
    > mentors and by Julian.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    > Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
    >
    > ________________________________
    > From: Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>
    > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 8:15:46 AM
    > To: dev@iotdb.apache.org <de...@iotdb.apache.org>
    > Subject: podling report draft - September 2019
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I finish the draft of the report.
    > Please supply the content if I miss something.
    >
    > IoTDB is a data store for managing large amounts of time series data such
    > as timestamped data from IoT sensors in industrial applications.
    >
    > IoTDB has been incubating since 2018-11-18.
    >
    > 1. Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:
    >
    > - Discuss a  plan for releasing future versions (e.g., how long time to
    > release a new major/minor version)
    >
    > - Discuss the roadmap of future versions (what features we want to do in
    > the next version)
    >
    > - Write documents for introducing the system architecture and code
    > structures to make it easy to let contributors join.
    >
    > 2. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
    > aware of?
    >
    > - No
    >
    > 3. How has the community developed since the last report?
    >
    > - Some new contributors joined the community.  E.g., PR#339 comes from a
    > new contributor and it is really an interesting feature.
    >
    > - Some contributors (who are not committers yet) are more active than
    > before. E.g., Boris Zhu and Jack Tsai.
    >
    > - More users began to report their issues. E.g.,  issue #171, #184 and
    > #186.
    >
    > As all the above contributions and contributors are not from the
    > institutions/companies where initial committers are, we think it is a good
    > signal that indicates more guys noticing the community.
    >
    > 4. How has the project developed since the last report?
    >
    > - IoTDB releases its first Apache version: v0.8.0 !
    >
    > - IoTDB is more stable and the performance is far better than before.
    > However, the version is incompatible with previous version (which are
    > released before IoTDB is denoted to ASF).
    >
    > - In v0.8.0, many issues are resolved (see release notes:
    > http://iotdb.apache.org/#/Materials/Release%20Notes )
    >
    > 5. How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add
    > your own commentary.
    >
    >  [  ] Initial setup
    >  [  ] Working towards first release
    >  [ x ] Community building
    >  [  ] Nearing graduation
    >  [  ] Other:
    >
    > Date of last release:
    >
    > - 08/25/2019
    >
    > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
    >
    > - 07/15/2019
    >
    > Have your mentors been helpful?
    >
    > - Yes
    >
    > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling through
    > the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues that need to be
    > addressed.
    >
    > - They are helpful, especially in the process of releasing the first
    > version.
    >
    > Signed-off-by:
    >
    >  (iotdb) Justin Mclean Comments:
    >  (iotdb) Christofer Dutz Comments:
    >  (iotdb) Willem Ning Jiang Comments:
    >  (iotdb) Kevin A. McGrail Comments:
    >
    > Best,
    > -----------------------------------
    > Xiangdong Huang
    > School of Software, Tsinghua University
    >
    >  黄向东
    > 清华大学 软件学院
    >
    


Re: podling report draft - September 2019

Posted by Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,

I agree. At least  for me, I think it is difficult to finish all steps for
releasing just myself...

How about change the "Three most important unfinished issues to address
before graduating" as,

- Make the community (both the contributors and committers/PPMCs) more
diverse  and learn to discuss things on the mailing list.
- More committers should know how to release a version.
- Have a plan for the future releasing (e.g., how long time to release a
new major/minor version).

I merged the 3 points into 2, and retain one from the draft.

Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University

 黄向东
清华大学 软件学院


Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> 于2019年8月30日周五 下午11:27写道:

> I think some of the points needed for graduation should be :
>
> - learn to discuss things on the mailinglist
> - grow a mit diverse community (as it feels like all ppmcs seem to be well
> connected and for me there's the impression of off list coordination). So
> you definitely need some outsiders in the ppmc.
> - during the release I had the impression most of the ppmcs were not doing
> their ppmc duties in thoroughly evaluating the rc. You need to learn how to
> release stuff. It worked this time because you had huge help by your
> mentors and by Julian.
>
> Chris
>
> Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 8:15:46 AM
> To: dev@iotdb.apache.org <de...@iotdb.apache.org>
> Subject: podling report draft - September 2019
>
> Hi,
>
> I finish the draft of the report.
> Please supply the content if I miss something.
>
> IoTDB is a data store for managing large amounts of time series data such
> as timestamped data from IoT sensors in industrial applications.
>
> IoTDB has been incubating since 2018-11-18.
>
> 1. Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:
>
> - Discuss a  plan for releasing future versions (e.g., how long time to
> release a new major/minor version)
>
> - Discuss the roadmap of future versions (what features we want to do in
> the next version)
>
> - Write documents for introducing the system architecture and code
> structures to make it easy to let contributors join.
>
> 2. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
> - No
>
> 3. How has the community developed since the last report?
>
> - Some new contributors joined the community.  E.g., PR#339 comes from a
> new contributor and it is really an interesting feature.
>
> - Some contributors (who are not committers yet) are more active than
> before. E.g., Boris Zhu and Jack Tsai.
>
> - More users began to report their issues. E.g.,  issue #171, #184 and
> #186.
>
> As all the above contributions and contributors are not from the
> institutions/companies where initial committers are, we think it is a good
> signal that indicates more guys noticing the community.
>
> 4. How has the project developed since the last report?
>
> - IoTDB releases its first Apache version: v0.8.0 !
>
> - IoTDB is more stable and the performance is far better than before.
> However, the version is incompatible with previous version (which are
> released before IoTDB is denoted to ASF).
>
> - In v0.8.0, many issues are resolved (see release notes:
> http://iotdb.apache.org/#/Materials/Release%20Notes )
>
> 5. How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add
> your own commentary.
>
>  [  ] Initial setup
>  [  ] Working towards first release
>  [ x ] Community building
>  [  ] Nearing graduation
>  [  ] Other:
>
> Date of last release:
>
> - 08/25/2019
>
> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>
> - 07/15/2019
>
> Have your mentors been helpful?
>
> - Yes
>
> Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling through
> the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues that need to be
> addressed.
>
> - They are helpful, especially in the process of releasing the first
> version.
>
> Signed-off-by:
>
>  (iotdb) Justin Mclean Comments:
>  (iotdb) Christofer Dutz Comments:
>  (iotdb) Willem Ning Jiang Comments:
>  (iotdb) Kevin A. McGrail Comments:
>
> Best,
> -----------------------------------
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
>  黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>

Re: podling report draft - September 2019

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I think some of the points needed for graduation should be :

- learn to discuss things on the mailinglist
- grow a mit diverse community (as it feels like all ppmcs seem to be well connected and for me there's the impression of off list coordination). So you definitely need some outsiders in the ppmc.
- during the release I had the impression most of the ppmcs were not doing their ppmc duties in thoroughly evaluating the rc. You need to learn how to release stuff. It worked this time because you had huge help by your mentors and by Julian.

Chris

Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

________________________________
From: Xiangdong Huang <sa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 8:15:46 AM
To: dev@iotdb.apache.org <de...@iotdb.apache.org>
Subject: podling report draft - September 2019

Hi,

I finish the draft of the report.
Please supply the content if I miss something.

IoTDB is a data store for managing large amounts of time series data such
as timestamped data from IoT sensors in industrial applications.

IoTDB has been incubating since 2018-11-18.

1. Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:

- Discuss a  plan for releasing future versions (e.g., how long time to
release a new major/minor version)

- Discuss the roadmap of future versions (what features we want to do in
the next version)

- Write documents for introducing the system architecture and code
structures to make it easy to let contributors join.

2. Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

- No

3. How has the community developed since the last report?

- Some new contributors joined the community.  E.g., PR#339 comes from a
new contributor and it is really an interesting feature.

- Some contributors (who are not committers yet) are more active than
before. E.g., Boris Zhu and Jack Tsai.

- More users began to report their issues. E.g.,  issue #171, #184 and #186.

As all the above contributions and contributors are not from the
institutions/companies where initial committers are, we think it is a good
signal that indicates more guys noticing the community.

4. How has the project developed since the last report?

- IoTDB releases its first Apache version: v0.8.0 !

- IoTDB is more stable and the performance is far better than before.
However, the version is incompatible with previous version (which are
released before IoTDB is denoted to ASF).

- In v0.8.0, many issues are resolved (see release notes:
http://iotdb.apache.org/#/Materials/Release%20Notes )

5. How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel free to add
your own commentary.

 [  ] Initial setup
 [  ] Working towards first release
 [ x ] Community building
 [  ] Nearing graduation
 [  ] Other:

Date of last release:

- 08/25/2019

When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?

- 07/15/2019

Have your mentors been helpful?

- Yes

Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling through
the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues that need to be
addressed.

- They are helpful, especially in the process of releasing the first
version.

Signed-off-by:

 (iotdb) Justin Mclean Comments:
 (iotdb) Christofer Dutz Comments:
 (iotdb) Willem Ning Jiang Comments:
 (iotdb) Kevin A. McGrail Comments:

Best,
-----------------------------------
Xiangdong Huang
School of Software, Tsinghua University

 黄向东
清华大学 软件学院