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Posted to java-user@axis.apache.org by Mike Oliver <ol...@appsaspeers.com> on 2002/11/12 21:07:23 UTC
As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
I knew I was in trouble.
Axis Installation
Step 0 Through Step 4 All ok. Happy Axis had all it "needed" only
"missing" was the security, xmlsec.jar...no problem.
Version and EchoHeaders both worked peachy.
Step 3...;-)
Very funny...the next step should be simple...and it should be Step
5....very funny.
I see the \axis\WEB-INF\classes\ cool!
I see the \samples\* and all the .class files for all the samples in the
distribution...I'm thinking, yes this "should be simple".
I remember from Step 4 I viewed the deployed services and none of these
samples showed....but that probably means there is an example of how to
deploy these existing samples already put into the classes, I just need
to read further.
Ok here we go Step 6
"Locate the deployment descriptor for your service and execute the
following command:"
Hmmm....from Step 3/5 it says, "In this directory, copy the compiled
java classes you wish to install, being careful to preserve the
directory structure of the java packages. " Ok, the \samples\*\*.class
files are already there but no .wsdd files and they aren't listed as
deployed.
Since someone went to all the trouble to write all those "samples"
wouldn't it make sense to include a specific example of deploying even
ONE of those?
Ok dig further.
"should be simple" not!
Looking at the command example in Step 6 and looking at the
distribution, I guess that I must go to the \samples\*\*.wsdd directory
for one of these samples and run that command...ok that fits with the
"Locate..." instruction so I am just stupid...and didn't make that
connection on first read.
So I go to the \samples\message\ where I find the deploy.wsdd
"Here we go!" I say to myself.
java org.apache.axis.client.AdminClient
-lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/services/AdminService deploy.wsdd
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
javax/servlet/ServletContext....ok back to the classpath.
- Processing file deploy.wsdd
- <Admin>Done processing</Admin>
Oh Baby!
Then a quick read of the \samples\message\readme
And
java samples.message.TestMsg
...NoClassDefFoundError....hmmm back to classpath for the ubiquitous
(.;..;)
OK! Hello World
Do I dare...things are going so well, and Step 7 Testing could prove the
bad end of the story.
Step 7
Deployed \samples\stock\deploy.wsdd just like above, then
java samples.stock.GetQuote
-lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/servlets/AxisServlet -uuser1 -wpass1 XXX
XXX: 55.25, Yes! We have Liftoff, Houston we DON'T have a PROBLEM, well
Axis is ok, the Installation Guide sucks, but that's ok, I won't be
reading that again...;-)>
Still unclear whether I must copy the classes first then deploy or if
the deploy copies the classes for me....seems like if I were deploying
to remote machine the AdminClient should copy the classes for me
too....oh well quit while you are a head, java head that is, OOP junky,
X Generation. Let's see what will Ant do for me...;-)
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
-----Original Message-----
From: Vidyanand Murunikkara [mailto:Vidyanand@infravio.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:11 AM
To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: RE: resources m$_interop service_parameters
Hi Oliver
For 3 check out this
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-user&m=103670473018220&w=2 and
follow the thread for pro's and con's
Vidyanand.
-----Original Message-----
From: Olivier Fauchon [mailto:olivier@labocom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:06 AM
To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: resources m$_interop service_parameters
Hi,
It seems this M.L. is the best source of informations over the net ..
I'm new to SOAP/AXIS/this ML, so please excuse me for the following
stupid questions :-)
1. Resources
I'm looking for detailed case study of services using custom
types/javabean , from AXIS server to MS SOAP Toolkit clients .
If someone has urls ... thx
2. MS Clients.
I have to code excel macros that get informations from my AXIS server
(i'm not M$ addict, but customers are).
I had a little attempt, which was successfull...
But to retreive my datas on the MS Client using MS SOAP Toolkit 3, i had
to parse DOM result (to get back my custom types)
I guess (hope) there's a simpler way to directly get my objects on the
client (i would like to get my custom types).
So if someone is experienced, please give me more detailed informations.
3. Services Parameters
There was some thread on passing parameters to services ... from that i
add the following line :
<service name="BaseService" provider="java:RPC">
<parameter name="hereismyparameter" value="itsvalue"/>
<!-- THIS IS THE PARAM I WANT TO USE -->
<parameter name="allowedMethods" value="*"/>
<parameter name="className"
value="com.labocom.apps.basegeneric.export.soap.v1.BaseService"/>
<namespace>http://www.labocom.com/BaseService</namespace>
</service>
... My question is ... how do i get the parameter from within the
published class "BaseService" ... as this class don't even extends
anything (like
servlet would do ) ...
Thanks a lot
Olivier Fauchon
Labocom Informatique
labocom.com
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Alex Dovlecel <do...@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl>.
and another thing about the axis samples.
There seems that the addressbook sample does not have the deploy.wsdd file.
So the testit.sh does no work. ;( Sorry if I am wrong.
And it seems this is not the only service that does not have the wsdd files.
:o(
Hope you are not mad because I say this things, :o(
dovle
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Alex Dovlecel <do...@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl>.
But the question remains. (never answered)
When I run a client (or the admin class), should I have the HttpServlet class
in my classpath or not?
and again, wich is the sample for Session management (tracking).
10q
dovle
> Steve tells me it's a bug that is fixed in last nights build.
>
> Michael Oliver
> AppsAsPeers LLC
> 7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
> Tucson, AZ 85747
> Phone:(520)574-1150
> Fax:(520)844-1036
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Dovlecel [mailto:dovle@ford.kbs.twi.tudelft.nl] On Behalf Of
> Alex Dovlecel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
>
> I also have some strange problems. It seems to be a little bit related.
>
> I am using tomcat 1.4.1 and axis 1.0.
>
> If I don't place the servlet.jar in my path, I cannot run the deploy
> tool. It
> gives me an NoClassDefFoundError: javax....HttpServlet.
>
> If I place the HttpServlet in the CP then no problem...
>
> Is it OK to be this way?
>
> (no mentioning the servlet.jar or the other ones that contains
> http.HttpServlet class in the docs).
>
> Thanks for answering
> dovle
>
> On Tuesday 12 November 2002 22:24, you wrote:
> > > Axis is ok, the Installation Guide sucks, but that's ok, I won't be
> > > reading that again...;-)>
> >
> > I rewrote a fair bit of the doc last weekend, so I am disappointed
>
> that you
>
> > find how I spent my friday evening unsatisfactory. Perhaps you would
>
> like
>
> > to contribute some of your spare time to the task of improving the
>
> docs.
>
> > Your mention of step 0 makes me think you have the updated version
>
> already
>
> > - Did you look at the web site or did you look at the version which
>
> came
>
> > with your distribution?
> >
> > > So I go to the \samples\message\ where I find the deploy.wsdd
> > >
> > > "Here we go!" I say to myself.
> > >
> > > java org.apache.axis.client.AdminClient
> > > -lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/services/AdminService deploy.wsdd
> > >
> > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> > > javax/servlet/ServletContext....ok back to the classpath.
> >
> > Bug in axis1.0 on java1.4; is now fixed. The reason it isnt in the
>
> docs was
>
> > because it is a bug, one that everyone thought was fixed before
>
> Axis1.0
>
> > shipped. I guess if you are a representative example of a user who
>
> reads
>
> > the web site docs rather than the ones that came with their version,
>
> then
>
> > we have scope to mention the bug in the install docs along with the
>
> fix
>
> > (get a nightly build).
> >
> > > Still unclear whether I must copy the classes first then deploy or
>
> if
>
> > > the deploy copies the classes for me....seems like if I were
>
> deploying
>
> > > to remote machine the AdminClient should copy the classes for me
> >
> > admin client just tells the server about another service; the files
>
> should
>
> > be there. so copy them first
> >
> > > too....oh well quit while you are a head, java head that is, OOP
>
> junky,
>
> > > X Generation. Let's see what will Ant do for me...;-)
> >
> > Also in cvs are the docs for ant tasks you need, including
>
> <axis-admin>
RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Mike Oliver <ol...@appsaspeers.com>.
Steve tells me it's a bug that is fixed in last nights build.
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Dovlecel [mailto:dovle@ford.kbs.twi.tudelft.nl] On Behalf Of
Alex Dovlecel
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:30 PM
To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
I also have some strange problems. It seems to be a little bit related.
I am using tomcat 1.4.1 and axis 1.0.
If I don't place the servlet.jar in my path, I cannot run the deploy
tool. It
gives me an NoClassDefFoundError: javax....HttpServlet.
If I place the HttpServlet in the CP then no problem...
Is it OK to be this way?
(no mentioning the servlet.jar or the other ones that contains
http.HttpServlet class in the docs).
Thanks for answering
dovle
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 22:24, you wrote:
> > Axis is ok, the Installation Guide sucks, but that's ok, I won't be
> > reading that again...;-)>
>
> I rewrote a fair bit of the doc last weekend, so I am disappointed
that you
> find how I spent my friday evening unsatisfactory. Perhaps you would
like
> to contribute some of your spare time to the task of improving the
docs.
>
> Your mention of step 0 makes me think you have the updated version
already
> - Did you look at the web site or did you look at the version which
came
> with your distribution?
>
> > So I go to the \samples\message\ where I find the deploy.wsdd
> >
> > "Here we go!" I say to myself.
> >
> > java org.apache.axis.client.AdminClient
> > -lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/services/AdminService deploy.wsdd
> >
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> > javax/servlet/ServletContext....ok back to the classpath.
>
> Bug in axis1.0 on java1.4; is now fixed. The reason it isnt in the
docs was
> because it is a bug, one that everyone thought was fixed before
Axis1.0
> shipped. I guess if you are a representative example of a user who
reads
> the web site docs rather than the ones that came with their version,
then
> we have scope to mention the bug in the install docs along with the
fix
> (get a nightly build).
>
> > Still unclear whether I must copy the classes first then deploy or
if
> > the deploy copies the classes for me....seems like if I were
deploying
> > to remote machine the AdminClient should copy the classes for me
>
> admin client just tells the server about another service; the files
should
> be there. so copy them first
>
> > too....oh well quit while you are a head, java head that is, OOP
junky,
> > X Generation. Let's see what will Ant do for me...;-)
>
> Also in cvs are the docs for ant tasks you need, including
<axis-admin>
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Alex Dovlecel <do...@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl>.
I also have some strange problems. It seems to be a little bit related.
I am using tomcat 1.4.1 and axis 1.0.
If I don't place the servlet.jar in my path, I cannot run the deploy tool. It
gives me an NoClassDefFoundError: javax....HttpServlet.
If I place the HttpServlet in the CP then no problem...
Is it OK to be this way?
(no mentioning the servlet.jar or the other ones that contains
http.HttpServlet class in the docs).
Thanks for answering
dovle
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 22:24, you wrote:
> > Axis is ok, the Installation Guide sucks, but that's ok, I won't be
> > reading that again...;-)>
>
> I rewrote a fair bit of the doc last weekend, so I am disappointed that you
> find how I spent my friday evening unsatisfactory. Perhaps you would like
> to contribute some of your spare time to the task of improving the docs.
>
> Your mention of step 0 makes me think you have the updated version already
> - Did you look at the web site or did you look at the version which came
> with your distribution?
>
> > So I go to the \samples\message\ where I find the deploy.wsdd
> >
> > "Here we go!" I say to myself.
> >
> > java org.apache.axis.client.AdminClient
> > -lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/services/AdminService deploy.wsdd
> >
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> > javax/servlet/ServletContext....ok back to the classpath.
>
> Bug in axis1.0 on java1.4; is now fixed. The reason it isnt in the docs was
> because it is a bug, one that everyone thought was fixed before Axis1.0
> shipped. I guess if you are a representative example of a user who reads
> the web site docs rather than the ones that came with their version, then
> we have scope to mention the bug in the install docs along with the fix
> (get a nightly build).
>
> > Still unclear whether I must copy the classes first then deploy or if
> > the deploy copies the classes for me....seems like if I were deploying
> > to remote machine the AdminClient should copy the classes for me
>
> admin client just tells the server about another service; the files should
> be there. so copy them first
>
> > too....oh well quit while you are a head, java head that is, OOP junky,
> > X Generation. Let's see what will Ant do for me...;-)
>
> Also in cvs are the docs for ant tasks you need, including <axis-admin>
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Alex Dovlecel <do...@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl>.
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 02:44, you wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Oliver" <ol...@appsaspeers.com>
> To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:06 PM
> Subject: RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
>
> > I wasn't worried and I will provide input when I see the need...so you
> > fixed Step 3/5?
>
> yes, and removed the word 'simple'
:o)))
Lol
Sorry for the interruption
dovle
RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Mike Oliver <ol...@appsaspeers.com>.
Just reviewed Step 5....Excellent! Much clearer, should help a lot.
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Loughran [mailto:steve_l@iseran.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:44 PM
To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Oliver" <ol...@appsaspeers.com>
To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
> I wasn't worried and I will provide input when I see the need...so you
> fixed Step 3/5?
>
yes, and removed the word 'simple'
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Oliver" <ol...@appsaspeers.com>
To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
> I wasn't worried and I will provide input when I see the need...so you
> fixed Step 3/5?
>
yes, and removed the word 'simple'
RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Mike Oliver <ol...@appsaspeers.com>.
I wasn't worried and I will provide input when I see the need...so you
fixed Step 3/5?
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Loughran [mailto:steve_l@iseran.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:23 PM
To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Oliver" <ol...@appsaspeers.com>
To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
Cc: "'Thomas Hicks'" <hi...@tohono.com>; "John Lauer"
<jl...@uwalumni.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
> Steve,
>
> I hope you noted my tongue in cheek approach. I was in the process of
> documenting the steps for one of my people and thought it might be
> useful for others trying to do what "should be simple" ;-)
to be honest I kind of stopped my rework at the last two sections
because I
wasnt sure what to do with them...I really of the opinion that we should
intro .jws files *before* we get into WSDD. I am also of the opinion
that we
should add a JSP page that lets you paste in a WSDD snippet so you dont
need
to work with admin client. Finally, why cant axis just invert a wsdd
file to
uninstall? And remember what it installed? These are details to be
implemented.
> I hoped you would notice my Ant comment....as one of the Acknowledged
> Reviewer's of your book on Ant, I am happy you did.
ahh, you are that Mike Oliver.
Dont worry, I wasnt upset, just bemused. And FYI I just updated the doc
a
bit to talk about the servlet.jar, among other things
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Oliver" <ol...@appsaspeers.com>
To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
Cc: "'Thomas Hicks'" <hi...@tohono.com>; "John Lauer" <jl...@uwalumni.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
> Steve,
>
> I hope you noted my tongue in cheek approach. I was in the process of
> documenting the steps for one of my people and thought it might be
> useful for others trying to do what "should be simple" ;-)
to be honest I kind of stopped my rework at the last two sections because I
wasnt sure what to do with them...I really of the opinion that we should
intro .jws files *before* we get into WSDD. I am also of the opinion that we
should add a JSP page that lets you paste in a WSDD snippet so you dont need
to work with admin client. Finally, why cant axis just invert a wsdd file to
uninstall? And remember what it installed? These are details to be
implemented.
> I hoped you would notice my Ant comment....as one of the Acknowledged
> Reviewer's of your book on Ant, I am happy you did.
ahh, you are that Mike Oliver.
Dont worry, I wasnt upset, just bemused. And FYI I just updated the doc a
bit to talk about the servlet.jar, among other things
RE: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Mike Oliver <ol...@appsaspeers.com>.
Steve,
I hope you noted my tongue in cheek approach. I was in the process of
documenting the steps for one of my people and thought it might be
useful for others trying to do what "should be simple" ;-)
I hoped you would notice my Ant comment....as one of the Acknowledged
Reviewer's of your book on Ant, I am happy you did.
See my additional comments below.
Michael Oliver
AppsAsPeers LLC
7391 S. Bullrider Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85747
Phone:(520)574-1150
Fax:(520)844-1036
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Loughran [mailto:steve_l@iseran.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:24 PM
To: axis-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
> Axis is ok, the Installation Guide sucks, but that's ok, I won't be
> reading that again...;-)>
I rewrote a fair bit of the doc last weekend, so I am disappointed that
you
find how I spent my friday evening unsatisfactory. Perhaps you would
like to
contribute some of your spare time to the task of improving the docs.
[Mike Oliver>>] well I guess I already did, in a sense, Step 3/5 needs
some more meat...as in an example from the distribution as I did. I
don't know enough yet to be more than chaff or background noise like
this at the moment, but I will offer suggestions directly to you if you
are the POC. Just in case you didn't notice yet, there are two Step 3's
and no Step 5.
Your mention of step 0 makes me think you have the updated version
already -
Did you look at the web site or did you look at the version which came
with
your distribution?
[Mike Oliver>>] I suppose if I had known there was a version with the
distribution I would have....but like most I saw the Installation Guide
on the web site before I downloaded the distribution, so since its
already there when I am ready to install...
> So I go to the \samples\message\ where I find the deploy.wsdd
>
> "Here we go!" I say to myself.
>
> java org.apache.axis.client.AdminClient
> -lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/services/AdminService deploy.wsdd
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> javax/servlet/ServletContext....ok back to the classpath.
Bug in axis1.0 on java1.4; is now fixed. The reason it isnt in the docs
was
because it is a bug, one that everyone thought was fixed before Axis1.0
shipped. I guess if you are a representative example of a user who reads
the
web site docs rather than the ones that came with their version, then we
have scope to mention the bug in the install docs along with the fix
(get a
nightly build).
[Mike Oliver>>] a note on the web site to "refer to the version in the
distribution for the latest (nightly) updates" might be enough to get
some to look there.
> Still unclear whether I must copy the classes first then deploy or if
> the deploy copies the classes for me....seems like if I were deploying
> to remote machine the AdminClient should copy the classes for me
admin client just tells the server about another service; the files
should
be there. so copy them first
[Mike Oliver>>] ;-) a left handed comment, I was suggesting the
AdminClient should copy the classes for me, I see this as a big win as
it would always ensure the right ones were deployed.
> too....oh well quit while you are a head, java head that is, OOP
junky,
> X Generation. Let's see what will Ant do for me...;-)
[Mike Oliver>>] Something I didn't mention because I haven't looked to
see if someone else has noticed...the link to the AdminServlet is not
available, if its still on your desktop you should commit it for
tonights build...;-)
Also in cvs are the docs for ant tasks you need, including <axis-admin>
[Mike Oliver>>] thanks, we are basing all of our Java adaptors on axis
so we will be very active.
Re: As soon as I read...the next step should be simple...
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>.
> Axis is ok, the Installation Guide sucks, but that's ok, I won't be
> reading that again...;-)>
I rewrote a fair bit of the doc last weekend, so I am disappointed that you
find how I spent my friday evening unsatisfactory. Perhaps you would like to
contribute some of your spare time to the task of improving the docs.
Your mention of step 0 makes me think you have the updated version already -
Did you look at the web site or did you look at the version which came with
your distribution?
> So I go to the \samples\message\ where I find the deploy.wsdd
>
> "Here we go!" I say to myself.
>
> java org.apache.axis.client.AdminClient
> -lhttp://localhost:8080/axis/services/AdminService deploy.wsdd
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> javax/servlet/ServletContext....ok back to the classpath.
Bug in axis1.0 on java1.4; is now fixed. The reason it isnt in the docs was
because it is a bug, one that everyone thought was fixed before Axis1.0
shipped. I guess if you are a representative example of a user who reads the
web site docs rather than the ones that came with their version, then we
have scope to mention the bug in the install docs along with the fix (get a
nightly build).
> Still unclear whether I must copy the classes first then deploy or if
> the deploy copies the classes for me....seems like if I were deploying
> to remote machine the AdminClient should copy the classes for me
admin client just tells the server about another service; the files should
be there. so copy them first
> too....oh well quit while you are a head, java head that is, OOP junky,
> X Generation. Let's see what will Ant do for me...;-)
Also in cvs are the docs for ant tasks you need, including <axis-admin>