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ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Hi all, especially Ralph,
Should...
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
Thanks,
Gj
AW: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Yes I noticed that Problem at GitHub. Great. Thx for the info.
Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2018 09:44
An: dev
Betreff: Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
The point is that GitHub cannot display thousands of root folders and also
that it was becoming increasingly difficult to see the wood for the trees
-- i.e., difficult to understand the structure of NetBeans.
So, following the installation directory structure (take a look at your
full NetBeans installation directory structure), we reorganized the modules
into those folders -- e.g., an 'enterprise' folder, a 'java' folder, a
'php' folder, exactly like you see in your NetBeans installation directory.
And there is only one left to be done:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Per-cluster+repository+layout
Gj
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> I think this could be good inside the platform, but a general
> Question/suggestion here: Everything which has dot notations like
> JavaScript.whatever or php.what.ever should be in a first Level
> Folder/cluster, Right? Like JavaScript or PHP and under this Folder you can
> find everything for hat. Is this ongoing for the packages, that are already
> donated or only for some Special packages like Java, platform and e.g. ide?
> Maybe I missed the Point, because of not reading all the mails so be Kind
> to me if it is so.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Ralph Benjamin Ruijs
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2018 09:27
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
>
> Hi,
>
> The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
> could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
> think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
> to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
> option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
> places individually.
>
>
> - Ralph
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> >
> > Should...
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> >
> > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>
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Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
The point is that GitHub cannot display thousands of root folders and also
that it was becoming increasingly difficult to see the wood for the trees
-- i.e., difficult to understand the structure of NetBeans.
So, following the installation directory structure (take a look at your
full NetBeans installation directory structure), we reorganized the modules
into those folders -- e.g., an 'enterprise' folder, a 'java' folder, a
'php' folder, exactly like you see in your NetBeans installation directory.
And there is only one left to be done:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Per-cluster+repository+layout
Gj
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> I think this could be good inside the platform, but a general
> Question/suggestion here: Everything which has dot notations like
> JavaScript.whatever or php.what.ever should be in a first Level
> Folder/cluster, Right? Like JavaScript or PHP and under this Folder you can
> find everything for hat. Is this ongoing for the packages, that are already
> donated or only for some Special packages like Java, platform and e.g. ide?
> Maybe I missed the Point, because of not reading all the mails so be Kind
> to me if it is so.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Ralph Benjamin Ruijs
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2018 09:27
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
>
> Hi,
>
> The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
> could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
> think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
> to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
> option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
> places individually.
>
>
> - Ralph
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> >
> > Should...
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> >
> > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>
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AW: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
I think this could be good inside the platform, but a general Question/suggestion here: Everything which has dot notations like JavaScript.whatever or php.what.ever should be in a first Level Folder/cluster, Right? Like JavaScript or PHP and under this Folder you can find everything for hat. Is this ongoing for the packages, that are already donated or only for some Special packages like Java, platform and e.g. ide? Maybe I missed the Point, because of not reading all the mails so be Kind to me if it is so.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Ralph Benjamin Ruijs
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2018 09:27
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Hi,
The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
places individually.
- Ralph
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi all, especially Ralph,
>
> Should...
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
>
> ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
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Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Please, that is not related to this thread, we need to keep this focused.
Gj
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>
wrote:
> Does anyone say Eclipse IDE or IntelliJ IDE? Maybe its time to just call
> it NetBeans. Just thinking out loud.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> Sent: September 12, 2018 8:04 AM
> To: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
>
> That's great.
>
> Yes, I wonder where that projectopener is used, but this is somehow a clue
> maybe: "Application for opening projects downloaded from web in NetBeans
> IDE".
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/
> master/ide.etc/projectopener/nbproject/project.properties
>
> If it's not used anywhere, maybe it can be deleted, unless it's useful
> somehow that we don't know about.
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
> ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hiding it inside the ide folder, before cleaning it up, is not ideal
> > :) Can you give me a couple of days, I'll create a PR with either a
> > proposal to clean it up, or moving it into ide ?
> >
> > btw, I can't find any reference to the projectopener project inside
> > ide.etc.
> >
> >
> > - Ralph
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:41 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ralph,
> > >
> > > Since it's called 'ide.etc', and it includes a feature about opening
> > > projects, i.e., that's an ide-related feature, what would be the
> > > problem with having it be part of the 'ide' folder -- at least
> > > until/unless we
> > find
> > > a way to reorganize its content?
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
> > > ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive
> > > > name I could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I
> > > > don't think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe
> > > > be moved to a higher cluster like platform or even go into
> > > > nbbuild. Another option would be to clean it up and move the files
> > > > to more logical places individually.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Ralph
> > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> > > > >
> > > > > Should...
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> > > > >
> > > > > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > >
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RE: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Kenneth Fogel <kf...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>.
Does anyone say Eclipse IDE or IntelliJ IDE? Maybe its time to just call it NetBeans. Just thinking out loud.
-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: September 12, 2018 8:04 AM
To: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
That's great.
Yes, I wonder where that projectopener is used, but this is somehow a clue
maybe: "Application for opening projects downloaded from web in NetBeans IDE".
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/ide.etc/projectopener/nbproject/project.properties
If it's not used anywhere, maybe it can be deleted, unless it's useful somehow that we don't know about.
Gj
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs < ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hiding it inside the ide folder, before cleaning it up, is not ideal
> :) Can you give me a couple of days, I'll create a PR with either a
> proposal to clean it up, or moving it into ide ?
>
> btw, I can't find any reference to the projectopener project inside
> ide.etc.
>
>
> - Ralph
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:41 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > Since it's called 'ide.etc', and it includes a feature about opening
> > projects, i.e., that's an ide-related feature, what would be the
> > problem with having it be part of the 'ide' folder -- at least
> > until/unless we
> find
> > a way to reorganize its content?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
> > ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive
> > > name I could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I
> > > don't think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe
> > > be moved to a higher cluster like platform or even go into
> > > nbbuild. Another option would be to clean it up and move the files
> > > to more logical places individually.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Ralph
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> > > >
> > > > Should...
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> > > >
> > > > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > >
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Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
That's great.
Yes, I wonder where that projectopener is used, but this is somehow a clue
maybe: "Application for opening projects downloaded from web in NetBeans
IDE".
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/ide.etc/projectopener/nbproject/project.properties
If it's not used anywhere, maybe it can be deleted, unless it's useful
somehow that we don't know about.
Gj
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hiding it inside the ide folder, before cleaning it up, is not ideal
> :) Can you give me a couple of days, I'll create a PR with either a
> proposal to clean it up, or moving it into ide ?
>
> btw, I can't find any reference to the projectopener project inside
> ide.etc.
>
>
> - Ralph
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:41 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ralph,
> >
> > Since it's called 'ide.etc', and it includes a feature about opening
> > projects, i.e., that's an ide-related feature, what would be the problem
> > with having it be part of the 'ide' folder -- at least until/unless we
> find
> > a way to reorganize its content?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
> > ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
> > > could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
> > > think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
> > > to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
> > > option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
> > > places individually.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Ralph
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> > > >
> > > > Should...
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> > > >
> > > > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > >
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Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hiding it inside the ide folder, before cleaning it up, is not ideal
:) Can you give me a couple of days, I'll create a PR with either a
proposal to clean it up, or moving it into ide ?
btw, I can't find any reference to the projectopener project inside ide.etc.
- Ralph
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:41 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> Since it's called 'ide.etc', and it includes a feature about opening
> projects, i.e., that's an ide-related feature, what would be the problem
> with having it be part of the 'ide' folder -- at least until/unless we find
> a way to reorganize its content?
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
> ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
> > could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
> > think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
> > to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
> > option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
> > places individually.
> >
> >
> > - Ralph
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> > >
> > > Should...
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> > >
> > > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gj
> >
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Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Hi Ralph,
Since it's called 'ide.etc', and it includes a feature about opening
projects, i.e., that's an ide-related feature, what would be the problem
with having it be part of the 'ide' folder -- at least until/unless we find
a way to reorganize its content?
Gj
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <
ralph.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
> could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
> think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
> to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
> option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
> places individually.
>
>
> - Ralph
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, especially Ralph,
> >
> > Should...
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
> >
> > ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>
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Re: ide.etc -- should that be inside 'ide'
Posted by Ralph Benjamin Ruijs <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
The folder used to be called just ide, and the most descriptive name I
could think of was etc (which is not descriptive at all). I don't
think it should be in the ide folder/cluster, but can maybe be moved
to a higher cluster like platform or even go into nbbuild. Another
option would be to clean it up and move the files to more logical
places individually.
- Ralph
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi all, especially Ralph,
>
> Should...
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide.etc
>
> ...maybe be inside the 'ide' folder:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/ide
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
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