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Ann: intro examples - docs in french - index page

Friends,

I put together some minimal stuff to teach (and self-learn to some extent)
XML + XSL + Cocoon:

In FRENCH: slides in HTML and PDF Format
     http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/tie/tie.html#subtitle2.6
  Sorry there is a copyright on that stuff. You can use it, but not make profit from it.
  There is also some Java stuff for beginners which may come useful.
  Comments welcome :)

Examples (mixed english, some french):
     http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/xml/cocoon/
  This stuff is for computer literate people (like me), but not for real programmers
  Only VERY simple xsl, mysql, ldap, xsp examples
  .... more to follow when I have time, I believe in XML :)

My XML Page
     http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/xml/pointers.html
  It's for our own needs and I don't care about having a top page, but I do care about
  a few things like indexing good tutorials 

- Daniel

PS: That stuff is not really hot, but there are LOTs of newbie questions
on this list and my slides/examples/index may be of use to some of them.

-- 
Dr Daniel K.Schneider, TECFA (Educational Technologies and Learning)
Faculte de Psychologie et des Sciences de l'Education, University of Geneva,
email: Daniel.Schneider@tecfa.unige.ch
www:   http://tecfa.unige.ch/tecfa-people/schneider.html
MOO:   tecfamoo.unige.ch 7777

TECFA - FPSE - Université de Genève
40, Bd. du Pont d'Arve, 1205 Genève
Tel: 41 22 705 9377 - Fax: 41 22 705 9379 - Office#: 6359

RE: Ann: intro examples - docs in French - index page

Posted by JJD <jj...@home.com>.
Presently I am not employed and I would volunteer to do the clean up,
writing (in French or English?), but I am not familiar with cocoon, I also
just started to get to know XML. Since I am a beginner it is the perfect
combination. If I can't understand it then it will be for intermediates. I
did check out the site http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/... and found it to be
heavy, and I'm still game. Let me know what you think? Thanks JJD

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Subject: Re: Ann: intro examples - docs in french - index page


Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
>
> I pointed some collegues to it; and they where very happy with the
> pages in that it gave them an easy entry in.
>
> Would you be interested in cleaning them up a bit and donate them
> for use on the web site; say in a 'beginner's section ?
>
> Dw.

If it is urgent I can't (overworked right now). But I could do it
within a time frame of 1 or 2 month.  What ought to be done is:
 - cleaning up (quite a lot)
 - homogenizing (e.g. using same basic elements, preferably based on a
single DTD)
 - some more examples
 - better documentation, don't know how yet but should not cost too much and
still
   be helpful
   - minimal documentation inside each sample directory ?
   - XML comments inside the code ?
   - a global, single XML documentation page using the "official" DTD ?
 - other ideas ????

That's one full week of work at least ... maybe more for somebody with my
computer
and writing skills :)...me!

So: Right now I will continue to add things in anarchistic ways while
learning myself (like a simple FO example this morning) and in a month or
2 I will take time to clean and package and submit it to the community
if it's still useful then ....

that ok as proposition ?

- Daniel

PS: If you want a really minimal thing I could do it before, but I don't
think
that the official cocoon site should have quick and dirty examples. You
decide :)

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Re: Ann: intro examples - docs in french - index page

Posted by Daniel Schneider <Da...@tecfa.unige.ch>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> 
> I pointed some collegues to it; and they where very happy with the
> pages in that it gave them an easy entry in.
> 
> Would you be interested in cleaning them up a bit and donate them
> for use on the web site; say in a 'beginner's section ?
> 
> Dw.

If it is urgent I can't (overworked right now). But I could do it
within a time frame of 1 or 2 month.  What ought to be done is:
 - cleaning up (quite a lot)
 - homogenizing (e.g. using same basic elements, preferably based on a single DTD)
 - some more examples
 - better documentation, don't know how yet but should not cost too much and still
   be helpful
   - minimal documentation inside each sample directory ?
   - XML comments inside the code ?
   - a global, single XML documentation page using the "official" DTD ?
 - other ideas ????

That's one full week of work at least ... maybe more for somebody with my computer
and writing skills :)

So: Right now I will continue to add things in anarchistic ways while
learning myself (like a simple FO example this morning) and in a month or 
2 I will take time to clean and package and submit it to the community
if it's still useful then ....

that ok as proposition ? 

- Daniel

PS: If you want a really minimal thing I could do it before, but I don't think
that the official cocoon site should have quick and dirty examples. You decide :)

Re: Ann: intro examples - docs in french - index page

Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
I pointed some collegues to it; and they where very happy with the
pages in that it gave them an easy entry in.

Would you be interested in cleaning them up a bit and donate them
for use on the web site; say in a 'beginner's section ?

Dw.


Daniel Schneider wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> 
> I put together some minimal stuff to teach (and self-learn to some extent)
> XML + XSL + Cocoon:
> 
> In FRENCH: slides in HTML and PDF Format
>      http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/tie/tie.html#subtitle2.6
>   Sorry there is a copyright on that stuff. You can use it, but not make profit from it.
>   There is also some Java stuff for beginners which may come useful.
>   Comments welcome :)
> 
> Examples (mixed english, some french):
>      http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/xml/cocoon/
>   This stuff is for computer literate people (like me), but not for real programmers
>   Only VERY simple xsl, mysql, ldap, xsp examples
>   .... more to follow when I have time, I believe in XML :)
> 
> My XML Page
>      http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/xml/pointers.html
>   It's for our own needs and I don't care about having a top page, but I do care about
>   a few things like indexing good tutorials
> 
> - Daniel
> 
> PS: That stuff is not really hot, but there are LOTs of newbie questions
> on this list and my slides/examples/index may be of use to some of them.
> 
> --
> Dr Daniel K.Schneider, TECFA (Educational Technologies and Learning)
> Faculte de Psychologie et des Sciences de l'Education, University of Geneva,
> email: Daniel.Schneider@tecfa.unige.ch
> www:   http://tecfa.unige.ch/tecfa-people/schneider.html
> MOO:   tecfamoo.unige.ch 7777
> 
> TECFA - FPSE - Université de Genève
> 40, Bd. du Pont d'Arve, 1205 Genève
> Tel: 41 22 705 9377 - Fax: 41 22 705 9379 - Office#: 6359
> 
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