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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by David Comerford <da...@gmail.com> on 2013/10/03 23:02:14 UTC

Management addresses on XenServers

Hi,

Why do system VM's on XenServer in a Basic networking zone require a
link-local address AND a private IP from the management range?

Best regards,
David Comerford
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Re: Management addresses on XenServers

Posted by David Comerford <da...@gmail.com>.
Ah it was the virtual routers I was thinking of.
Cool, thanks Geoff :)

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David Comerford
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On 3 October 2013 22:11, Geoff Higginbottom <
geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> Link local is so that the management server can talk to them, and the
> private (management) address is so they can talk to the management server.
>
> The Virtual Router has no private address so the standard way that
> CloudStack management servers talk to all system VMs is via link local.
>
> SSVM and CPVM have a private address and they use this when thy initiate
> comms to the management server, using the address specified in the 'host'
> global setting' which should be a load balanced ip if you have more than
> one management server.
>
> The exception to this is if using VMware which does not have a link local
> network, in which case the equivalent VIF on the vm is allocated a private
> ip range, but of course basic networking does not work with VMWare so we
> can ignore that for now.
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
> CTO / Cloud Architect
>
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>
> On 3 Oct 2013, at 22:02, "David Comerford" <davestyle@gmail.com<mailto:
> davestyle@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Why do system VM's on XenServer in a Basic networking zone require a
> link-local address AND a private IP from the management range?
>
> Best regards,
> David Comerford
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> Email: davestyle@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
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Re: Management addresses on XenServers

Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
David,

Link local is so that the management server can talk to them, and the private (management) address is so they can talk to the management server.

The Virtual Router has no private address so the standard way that CloudStack management servers talk to all system VMs is via link local.

SSVM and CPVM have a private address and they use this when thy initiate comms to the management server, using the address specified in the 'host' global setting' which should be a load balanced ip if you have more than one management server.

The exception to this is if using VMware which does not have a link local network, in which case the equivalent VIF on the vm is allocated a private ip range, but of course basic networking does not work with VMWare so we can ignore that for now.

Regards

Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect


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On 3 Oct 2013, at 22:02, "David Comerford" <da...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Why do system VM's on XenServer in a Basic networking zone require a
link-local address AND a private IP from the management range?

Best regards,
David Comerford
------------------------
Tel: +353 87 1238295
Email: davestyle@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
Website: http://dave.ie
GPG key: http://gpg.dave.ie
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