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Posted to user@mesos.apache.org by Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> on 2021/04/05 17:58:07 UTC
[VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Hi folks,
Based on the recent conversations
<https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <https://attic.apache.org/>
and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
attic.
Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
is encouraged to vote. See process here
<https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
Thanks,
Re: Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@apache.org>.
Write permission will be turned off. All Apache Mesos repositories will become read-only, upon a move to the Attic.
Regards,
Greg Stein
Infrastructure Administrator, ASF
On 2021/04/06 11:34:23 Charles-François Natali wrote:
> +1 (non binding)
>
> Hopefully this will allow the project to continue its life outside the ASF.
>
> Can you confirm whether it'll be possible to continue using
> https://github.com/apache/mesos and give write permissions to the various
> people who expressed interest?
>
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 14:47 Alex R, <al...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1 (binding)
> >
> > Great times having worked with you folks!
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 21:50, Andrew Schwartzmeyer <an...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It seems to be the best (and really only) move at this point, +1.
> > >
> > > It was nice working with you all!
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > On 2021/04/05 18:31:13, Benjamin Bannier <bb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Benjamin
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the recent conversations
> > > > > <
> > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > > on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among
> > > the
> > > > > existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> > > > > <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> > > > > collaborate on a fork in Github.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project
> > to
> > > > > the attic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> > > > > PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the
> > > community
> > > > > is encouraged to vote. See process here
> > > > > <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Charles-François Natali <cf...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non binding)
Hopefully this will allow the project to continue its life outside the ASF.
Can you confirm whether it'll be possible to continue using
https://github.com/apache/mesos and give write permissions to the various
people who expressed interest?
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 14:47 Alex R, <al...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Great times having worked with you folks!
>
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 21:50, Andrew Schwartzmeyer <an...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > It seems to be the best (and really only) move at this point, +1.
> >
> > It was nice working with you all!
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On 2021/04/05 18:31:13, Benjamin Bannier <bb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1.
> > >
> > >
> > > Benjamin
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > Based on the recent conversations
> > > > <
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > > on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among
> > the
> > > > existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> > > > <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> > > > collaborate on a fork in Github.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project
> to
> > > > the attic.
> > > >
> > > > Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> > > > PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the
> > community
> > > > is encouraged to vote. See process here
> > > > <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Alex R <al...@apache.org>.
+1 (binding)
Great times having worked with you folks!
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 21:50, Andrew Schwartzmeyer <an...@apache.org>
wrote:
> It seems to be the best (and really only) move at this point, +1.
>
> It was nice working with you all!
>
> Andy
>
> On 2021/04/05 18:31:13, Benjamin Bannier <bb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1.
> >
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Based on the recent conversations
> > > <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> > > on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among
> the
> > > existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> > > <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> > > collaborate on a fork in Github.
> > >
> > > I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> > > the attic.
> > >
> > > Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> > > PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the
> community
> > > is encouraged to vote. See process here
> > > <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Andrew Schwartzmeyer <an...@apache.org>.
It seems to be the best (and really only) move at this point, +1.
It was nice working with you all!
Andy
On 2021/04/05 18:31:13, Benjamin Bannier <bb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1.
>
>
> Benjamin
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Based on the recent conversations
> > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> > on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> > existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> > <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> > collaborate on a fork in Github.
> >
> > I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> > the attic.
> >
> > Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> > PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> > is encouraged to vote. See process here
> > <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Benjamin Bannier <bb...@gmail.com>.
With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1.
Benjamin
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Meng Zhu <me...@gmail.com>.
+1
It has been a pleasure working with you all!
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
> https://attic.apache.org/>
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
> attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Gastón Kleiman <ga...@apache.org>.
+1
I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our
paths cross again in the future!
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Dave Lester <dl...@apache.org>.
+1 (binding)
On 2021/04/06 15:19:13, Jie Yu <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> It was great working with you all.
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:13 AM Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Based on the recent conversations
> > <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> > on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> > existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> > <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> > collaborate on a fork in Github.
> >
> > I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> > the attic.
> >
> > Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> > PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> > is encouraged to vote. See process here
> > <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > +1 for move to attic.
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Jie Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
+1
It was great working with you all.
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:13 AM Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
> +1 for move to attic.
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Jie Yu <yu...@gmail.com>.
+1
It was great working with you all.
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:13 AM Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
> +1 for move to attic.
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com.INVALID>.
> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community is encouraged to vote. See process here <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
+1 for move to attic.
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by DhilipKumar Sankaranarayanan <s....@gmail.com>.
+1
All the very best everyone,
really sad to see this great project go to attic :-( also excited about
it's potential forks.
Regards,
Dhilip
On Tue, 6 Apr, 2021, 3:07 PM Benjamin Mahler, <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Based on the recent conversations
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
>> >
>> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
>> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
>> https://attic.apache.org/>
>> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>>
>> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
>> the
>> attic.
>>
>> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
>> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
>> is encouraged to vote. See process here
>> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Kevin Klues <kl...@gmail.com>.
+1 (binding)
While it is of course sad to see things come to an end here, I do encourage
those of you who wish to see Mesos live on to try and breath new life into
it as a standalone project on github.
In that sense, this is more of a new beginning than an end.
The king is dead, long live the king!
Kevin
Am Di., 6. Apr. 2021 um 21:07 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Mahler <
bmahler@apache.org>:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Based on the recent conversations
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
>> >
>> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
>> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
>> https://attic.apache.org/>
>> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>>
>> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
>> the
>> attic.
>>
>> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
>> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
>> is encouraged to vote. See process here
>> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
--
~Kevin
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Kevin Klues <kl...@gmail.com>.
+1 (binding)
While it is of course sad to see things come to an end here, I do encourage
those of you who wish to see Mesos live on to try and breath new life into
it as a standalone project on github.
In that sense, this is more of a new beginning than an end.
The king is dead, long live the king!
Kevin
Am Di., 6. Apr. 2021 um 21:07 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Mahler <
bmahler@apache.org>:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Based on the recent conversations
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
>> >
>> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
>> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
>> https://attic.apache.org/>
>> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>>
>> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
>> the
>> attic.
>>
>> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
>> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
>> is encouraged to vote. See process here
>> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
--
~Kevin
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by DhilipKumar Sankaranarayanan <s....@gmail.com>.
+1
All the very best everyone,
really sad to see this great project go to attic :-( also excited about
it's potential forks.
Regards,
Dhilip
On Tue, 6 Apr, 2021, 3:07 PM Benjamin Mahler, <bm...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Based on the recent conversations
>> <
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
>> >
>> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
>> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
>> https://attic.apache.org/>
>> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>>
>> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
>> the
>> attic.
>>
>> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
>> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
>> is encouraged to vote. See process here
>> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Benjamin Mahler <bm...@apache.org>.
+1 (binding)
Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
> https://attic.apache.org/>
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
> attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Benjamin Mahler <bm...@apache.org>.
+1 (binding)
Thanks to all who contributed to the project.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
> https://attic.apache.org/>
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
> attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com>.
> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community is encouraged to vote. See process here <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
+1 for move to attic.
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Gastón Kleiman <ga...@apache.org>.
+1
I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our
paths cross again in the future!
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Gastón Kleiman <ga...@gmail.com>.
+1
I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our
paths cross again in the future!
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Yan Xu <ya...@jxu.me>.
+1
It’s been quite a journey!
Yan
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:49 PM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Rich,
>
> Thanks for chiming in and providing your perspective.
>
> Charles already did a great job summarizing some of the current sentiments
> in the community above. I wanted to add a couple more points based on my
> discussions with folks in the community and PMC.
>
> Yes, there are some folks who are still interested in making some (minor)
> contributions but for that they just need a single repo to collaborate on.
> ASF has been a great home and steward for the Mesos project, but at this
> stage in its lifecycle, Mesos project could actually benefit from an ultra
> lightweight process and collaboration model. A public GitHub repo with
> requisite permissions for collaborators would serve these purposes well
> compared to the ASF process (PMC, voting, board reports etc).
>
> As an aside, would the ASF Board have any issue with the community forking
> the project and collaborating at https://github.com/mesos/mesos ?
>
> Thanks,
> Vinod
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:01 PM Samuel Marks <sa...@offscale.io> wrote:
>
> > Who runs this one? https://github.com/mesos
> >
> > Samuel Marks
> > Charity <https://sydneyscientific.org> | consultancy <
> https://offscale.io>
> > | open-source <https://github.com/offscale> | LinkedIn
> > <https://linkedin.com/in/samuelmarks>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:42 AM Charles-François Natali <
> > cf.natali@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rich,
> > >
> > > FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I
> > > still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non
> > > binding as I'm not a committer).
> > >
> > > Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the
> > > ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers
> > > is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to
> > > onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward.
> > > Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the
> > > project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear
> > > technical direction for the future, etc.
> > > While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really
> > > make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead.
> > > Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de
> > > facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active*
> > > committers, and that's definitely not the case.
> > >
> > > However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined
> > > in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in
> > > contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project
> > > is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move
> > > on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months
> > > since the first thread stared, and nothing happened.
> > >
> > > It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using
> > > https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher
> > > barrier to continuing the project.
> > >
> > > However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no
> > > other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final
> > > thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project
> > > forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own
> > > repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're
> > > actually interested will be willing to take an active part.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned
> > > member. Color me confused by this vote.
> > > >
> > > > A month ago, on this same list -
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
> > > - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX
> > > people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it
> > going.
> > > >
> > > > Around that same time -
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
> > > - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights
> > has
> > > been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
> > > >
> > > > And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
> > > >
> > > > So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the
> > > reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the
> > Dev
> > > list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't
> > attic
> > > it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing
> > > people take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the
> picky
> > > little details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Sent from mobile
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org>.
Hi Rich,
Thanks for chiming in and providing your perspective.
Charles already did a great job summarizing some of the current sentiments
in the community above. I wanted to add a couple more points based on my
discussions with folks in the community and PMC.
Yes, there are some folks who are still interested in making some (minor)
contributions but for that they just need a single repo to collaborate on.
ASF has been a great home and steward for the Mesos project, but at this
stage in its lifecycle, Mesos project could actually benefit from an ultra
lightweight process and collaboration model. A public GitHub repo with
requisite permissions for collaborators would serve these purposes well
compared to the ASF process (PMC, voting, board reports etc).
As an aside, would the ASF Board have any issue with the community forking
the project and collaborating at https://github.com/mesos/mesos ?
Thanks,
Vinod
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:01 PM Samuel Marks <sa...@offscale.io> wrote:
> Who runs this one? https://github.com/mesos
>
> Samuel Marks
> Charity <https://sydneyscientific.org> | consultancy <https://offscale.io>
> | open-source <https://github.com/offscale> | LinkedIn
> <https://linkedin.com/in/samuelmarks>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:42 AM Charles-François Natali <
> cf.natali@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rich,
> >
> > FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I
> > still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non
> > binding as I'm not a committer).
> >
> > Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the
> > ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers
> > is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to
> > onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward.
> > Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the
> > project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear
> > technical direction for the future, etc.
> > While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really
> > make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead.
> > Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de
> > facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active*
> > committers, and that's definitely not the case.
> >
> > However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined
> > in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in
> > contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project
> > is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move
> > on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months
> > since the first thread stared, and nothing happened.
> >
> > It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using
> > https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher
> > barrier to continuing the project.
> >
> > However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no
> > other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final
> > thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project
> > forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own
> > repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're
> > actually interested will be willing to take an active part.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> a écrit :
> > >
> > > I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned
> > member. Color me confused by this vote.
> > >
> > > A month ago, on this same list -
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
> > - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX
> > people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it
> going.
> > >
> > > Around that same time -
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
> > - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights
> has
> > been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
> > >
> > > And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
> > >
> > > So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the
> > reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the
> Dev
> > list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't
> attic
> > it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
> > >
> > > Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing
> > people take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky
> > little details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Samuel Marks <sa...@offscale.io>.
Who runs this one? https://github.com/mesos
Samuel Marks
Charity <https://sydneyscientific.org> | consultancy <https://offscale.io>
| open-source <https://github.com/offscale> | LinkedIn
<https://linkedin.com/in/samuelmarks>
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:42 AM Charles-François Natali <cf...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Rich,
>
> FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I
> still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non
> binding as I'm not a committer).
>
> Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the
> ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers
> is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to
> onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward.
> Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the
> project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear
> technical direction for the future, etc.
> While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really
> make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead.
> Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de
> facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active*
> committers, and that's definitely not the case.
>
> However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined
> in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in
> contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project
> is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move
> on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months
> since the first thread stared, and nothing happened.
>
> It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using
> https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher
> barrier to continuing the project.
>
> However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no
> other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final
> thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project
> forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own
> repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're
> actually interested will be willing to take an active part.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
>
> Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> a écrit :
> >
> > I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned
> member. Color me confused by this vote.
> >
> > A month ago, on this same list -
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
> - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX
> people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it going.
> >
> > Around that same time -
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
> - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights has
> been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
> >
> > And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
> >
> > So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the
> reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the Dev
> list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't attic
> it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
> >
> > Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing
> people take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky
> little details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.
> >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org>.
Thanks for taking the time to explain more to an outsider. Much appreciated. I remain unclear as to how the project could have enough people to remain active on Github, but not here. However, not seeing any dissenting voices from the stated-possible-new-committers, I accept your reasoning, and will resume my place in the peanut gallery. I wish you all well, and it was a pleasure having you here at Apache for the past 8 years.
--Rich
On 2021/04/07 01:42:07, Charles-François Natali <cf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rich,
>
> FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I
> still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non
> binding as I'm not a committer).
>
> Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the
> ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers
> is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to
> onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward.
> Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the
> project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear
> technical direction for the future, etc.
> While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really
> make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead.
> Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de
> facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active*
> committers, and that's definitely not the case.
>
> However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined
> in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in
> contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project
> is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move
> on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months
> since the first thread stared, and nothing happened.
>
> It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using
> https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher
> barrier to continuing the project.
>
> However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no
> other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final
> thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project
> forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own
> repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're
> actually interested will be willing to take an active part.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
>
> Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> a écrit :
> >
> > I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned member. Color me confused by this vote.
> >
> > A month ago, on this same list - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it going.
> >
> > Around that same time - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights has been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
> >
> > And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
> >
> > So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the Dev list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't attic it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
> >
> > Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing people take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky little details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.
> >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Charles-François Natali <cf...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rich,
FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I
still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non
binding as I'm not a committer).
Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the
ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers
is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to
onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward.
Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the
project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear
technical direction for the future, etc.
While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really
make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead.
Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de
facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active*
committers, and that's definitely not the case.
However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined
in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in
contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project
is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move
on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months
since the first thread stared, and nothing happened.
It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using
https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher
barrier to continuing the project.
However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no
other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final
thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project
forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own
repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're
actually interested will be willing to take an active part.
Cheers,
Charles
Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned member. Color me confused by this vote.
>
> A month ago, on this same list - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it going.
>
> Around that same time - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights has been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
>
> And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
>
> So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the Dev list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't attic it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
>
> Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing people take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky little details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org>.
I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned member. Color me confused by this vote.
A month ago, on this same list - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it going.
Around that same time - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights has been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the Dev list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't attic it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing people take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky little details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Meng Zhu <me...@gmail.com>.
+1
It has been a pleasure working with you all!
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E
> >
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic <
> https://attic.apache.org/>
> and let the interested community members collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to the
> attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>
Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic
Posted by Gastón Kleiman <ga...@gmail.com>.
+1
I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our
paths cross again in the future!
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Based on the recent conversations
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E>
> on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the
> existing PMC is to move the project to the attic
> <https://attic.apache.org/> and let the interested community members
> collaborate on a fork in Github.
>
> I would like to call a vote to dissolve the PMC and move the project to
> the attic.
>
> Please reply to this thread with your vote. Only binding votes from
> PMC/committers count towards the final tally but everyone in the community
> is encouraged to vote. See process here
> <https://attic.apache.org/process.html>.
>
> Thanks,
>