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Posted to infrastructure-dev@apache.org by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> on 2012/01/17 06:37:58 UTC

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Hi Dave,

Thanks.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thank you, Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch), for building developer's
>> snapshot builds and langpacks for Windows.
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/
>> Now we can find untranslated threads in the product.
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/JA/Apache_OpenOffice/OOO340_m1
>> We would like to discuss in Japanese about Japanese translation for
>> Apache OpenOffice on our native language list and made it public to
>> Japanese users and contributors.
>> But you see,
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/thread?0
>> the list archive is unreadable.
>> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
>> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182
>> We want these issues to be fixed soon.
>
> So sorry, but these are filed in the AOO issue tracker. Apache Infrastructure will never find issues there. It is not their issue tracker.
>
> For Apache Infrastructure issues, it is JIRA here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA
>
> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4334 which links to the two issues in the AOO BZ.

Thanks for doing this!  Helpful.
:)

> I think that parts of these issues have been resolved for other reasons and that the subject encoding is the remaining issue. I could be wrong.

Yes.  You are right.  Parts of :)
You see,
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6F52VHKUG=Ao8FYkOybP0Zu_uQ=OuQckZUBm4p7xgMtuQ@mail.gmail.com%3E
this is 100% OK.  But
[2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6E3wNuwPxOTuG4yduJSpuKTSem_UUhxgH8MS4MyTezXnw@mail.gmail.com%3E
this is not OK.
What is the difference between [1] and [2]?  I can't figure it out.
Infrastructure team! Help!
:)
The title issue is also very important for Japanese users.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/thread?0
When I see this, I feel very sad.

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>>
>> We are getting closer to Apache OpenOffice release, aren't we?
>> We should start localization and translation efforts as soon as possible, right?
>> As soon as the list archive issues are fixed, I would like to prepare
>> an announcement to the world people "Apache OpenOffice call for help
>> on localization and translation, Help build Apache OpenOffice for your
>> language"
>> :)
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>> --
>> khirano@apache.org
>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Thanks,
khirano

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Christian Lohmaier,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Christian Lohmaier
<cl...@openoffice.org> wrote:
> If you are referring to the two messages below where one of them
> works: no, nothing was fixed (from my POV)
You are right.  But I hope they will be fixed soon.

> That is easy: the one that the archive cannot cope with is using a
> 7bit message encoding.
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I see.  I hope this is also easy to be fixed.

I am looking forward to seeing my language beautiful on the archive soon.

Thanks,
khirano
---
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Christian Lohmaier,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Christian Lohmaier
<cl...@openoffice.org> wrote:
> If you are referring to the two messages below where one of them
> works: no, nothing was fixed (from my POV)
You are right.  But I hope they will be fixed soon.

> That is easy: the one that the archive cannot cope with is using a
> 7bit message encoding.
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I see.  I hope this is also easy to be fixed.

I am looking forward to seeing my language beautiful on the archive soon.

Thanks,
khirano
---
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Christian Lohmaier <cl...@openoffice.org>.
Hi *,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>
>> I think that parts of these issues have been resolved for other reasons and that the subject encoding is the remaining issue. I could be wrong.
>
> Yes.  You are right.  Parts of :)

If you are referring to the two messages below where one of them
works: no, nothing was fixed (from my POV), the message that works
just doesn't trigger the bug (missing feature, however you want to
call it)

> You see,
> [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6F52VHKUG=Ao8FYkOybP0Zu_uQ=OuQckZUBm4p7xgMtuQ@mail.gmail.com%3E
> this is 100% OK.  But
> [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6E3wNuwPxOTuG4yduJSpuKTSem_UUhxgH8MS4MyTezXnw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> this is not OK.
> What is the difference between [1] and [2]?

That is easy: the one that the archive cannot cope with is using a
7bit message encoding.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

ciao
Christian

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Christian Lohmaier <cl...@openoffice.org>.
Hi *,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>
>> I think that parts of these issues have been resolved for other reasons and that the subject encoding is the remaining issue. I could be wrong.
>
> Yes.  You are right.  Parts of :)

If you are referring to the two messages below where one of them
works: no, nothing was fixed (from my POV), the message that works
just doesn't trigger the bug (missing feature, however you want to
call it)

> You see,
> [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6F52VHKUG=Ao8FYkOybP0Zu_uQ=OuQckZUBm4p7xgMtuQ@mail.gmail.com%3E
> this is 100% OK.  But
> [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6E3wNuwPxOTuG4yduJSpuKTSem_UUhxgH8MS4MyTezXnw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> this is not OK.
> What is the difference between [1] and [2]?

That is easy: the one that the archive cannot cope with is using a
7bit message encoding.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

ciao
Christian

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Maho NAKATA <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Rob,

This issue is very important, as OpenOffice is an international
project. Still, we cannot write e-mails to exchange opinions..

Following are issues must be fixed soon.
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182

Best,
 Nakata Maho

From: Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:11:56 +0900

> Hi infrastructure team and all,
> 
> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
> 
> We would like to start with the translation.
> 
> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
> mailing list must be fixed.
> 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
> 
> We need your help soon.
> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>>
>> Any news on this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>>
>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>> khirano
>>> --
>>> khirano@apache.org
>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> 

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Maho NAKATA <ma...@apache.org>.
Hi Rob,

This issue is very important, as OpenOffice is an international
project. Still, we cannot write e-mails to exchange opinions..

Following are issues must be fixed soon.
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182

Best,
 Nakata Maho

From: Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:11:56 +0900

> Hi infrastructure team and all,
> 
> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
> 
> We would like to start with the translation.
> 
> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
> mailing list must be fixed.
> 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
> 
> We need your help soon.
> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>>
>> Any news on this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>>
>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>> khirano
>>> --
>>> khirano@apache.org
>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> 

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Forwarding to Stefan as I don't think he's on this list.

Kazunari Hirano wrote on Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 19:37:01 +0900:
> Hi Daniel and Stefan,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> > Thanks for testing.  Stefan (sf@) is aware of the subject issue in the
> > last screen (and a less obvious issue in the /browser screen) and
> > I believe he'll look into it once he has cycles.
> Thank you, Stefan.
> You have fixed everything, haven't you?
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/%3C20111115.060721.2049055550587193738.maho@openoffice.org%3E
> The subject looks fine!
> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> -- 
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel and Stefan,

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Thanks for testing.  Stefan (sf@) is aware of the subject issue in the
> last screen (and a less obvious issue in the /browser screen) and
> I believe he'll look into it once he has cycles.
Thank you, Stefan.
You have fixed everything, haven't you?
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/%3C20111115.060721.2049055550587193738.maho@openoffice.org%3E
The subject looks fine!

Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel,

Yes, you are right, it works :)

Thanks,
khirano

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Kazunari Hirano wrote on Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 07:56:17 +0900:
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>> > Please note that the *.aurora.apache.org links are
>> > temporary; that vhost will be gone once we roll out the new code to the
>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance.
>>
>> It seems that vhost is gone.
>
> Works for me (both DNS and HTTP)
>
>> When will you roll out the new code to
>> the http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance?
>
> As soon as the code is written...



-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Kazunari Hirano wrote on Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 07:56:17 +0900:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> > Please note that the *.aurora.apache.org links are
> > temporary; that vhost will be gone once we roll out the new code to the
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance.
> 
> It seems that vhost is gone.

Works for me (both DNS and HTTP)

> When will you roll out the new code to
> the http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance?

As soon as the code is written...

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel,

Thanks.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Thanks for testing.  Stefan (sf@) is aware of the subject issue in the
> last screen (and a less obvious issue in the /browser screen) and
> I believe he'll look into it once he has cycles.

This sounds great too.  Thank you, Stefan! :)

> Please note that the *.aurora.apache.org links are
> temporary; that vhost will be gone once we roll out the new code to the
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance.

It seems that vhost is gone.  When will you roll out the new code to
the http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance?

Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Kazunari Hirano wrote on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50:56 +0900:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> > See INFRA-4334 for updates.
> 
> I've checked https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4334
> 
> This is great!
> 
> http://mail-archives.aurora.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/browser
> This looks OK.  If I click the title/subject on it, "Permalink
> (Message view)" pops up.
> The pop-up's title and body look OK.
> If I click "Message list" on it, I see the following page.
> http://mail-archives.aurora.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/thread?0
> This looks OK too.  If I click the title/subject on it, the following
> page opens.
> http://mail-archives.aurora.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/%3C20111115.060721.2049055550587193738.maho@openoffice.org%3E
> On this page, the title is garbled, the body looks OK.
> 

Thanks for testing.  Stefan (sf@) is aware of the subject issue in the
last screen (and a less obvious issue in the /browser screen) and
I believe he'll look into it once he has cycles.

> I think this is great improvement, now the archive is readable and we
> can start using our native language list in our language :)
> 
> I will ask another Japanese moderator and testers to check the archive.
> 

Cool, thanks.  Please note that the *.aurora.apache.org links are
temporary; that vhost will be gone once we roll out the new code to the
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ instance.

> Thanks,
> khirano
> -- 
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

HTH

Daniel

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel,

Thanks.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> See INFRA-4334 for updates.

I've checked https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4334

This is great!

http://mail-archives.aurora.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/browser
This looks OK.  If I click the title/subject on it, "Permalink
(Message view)" pops up.
The pop-up's title and body look OK.
If I click "Message list" on it, I see the following page.
http://mail-archives.aurora.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/thread?0
This looks OK too.  If I click the title/subject on it, the following
page opens.
http://mail-archives.aurora.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201111.mbox/%3C20111115.060721.2049055550587193738.maho@openoffice.org%3E
On this page, the title is garbled, the body looks OK.

I think this is great improvement, now the archive is readable and we
can start using our native language list in our language :)

I will ask another Japanese moderator and testers to check the archive.

Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
See INFRA-4334 for updates.

Kazunari Hirano wrote on Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 21:52:53 +0900:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Thanks for your comment.
> I understand.
> I will look for a volunteer who can patch them.
> :)
> Thanks,
> khirano
> -- 
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tony,

Thanks for your comment.
I understand.
I will look for a volunteer who can patch them.
:)
Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Tony Stevenson <pc...@apache.org>.
Kazunari Hirano wrote on Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:57:14AM +0900:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> Good idea.  Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > What about the MarkMail archives? Is their copy of the archive any better?
> > See:  http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-general-ja
> 
> This is a good alternative.
> We will use it until the mail archives on mail-archives.apache.org are
> really internationalized :)

Please note that while this is on the todo list, it isnt currently considered to be a high priority.  In fact it is likely going to remian un-patched until a volunteer offers to work on it for us. 
We have very limited cycles, and we're not all C coders.  If you would like it resolved quicker, perhaps suggesting a member of your community could offer to help us. 

> 
> Tony and Apache infrastructure team,
> 
> We will wait for you.  When you have time, please patch the following issues.
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182
> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> -- 
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> 

-- 

Cheers,
Tony


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Tony Stevenson

tony@pc-tony.com  //  pctony@apache.org
tony@caret.cam.ac.uk

http://blog.pc-tony.com

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Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Tony Stevenson <pc...@apache.org>.
Kazunari Hirano wrote on Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 07:57:14AM +0900:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> Good idea.  Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > What about the MarkMail archives? Is their copy of the archive any better?
> > See:  http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-general-ja
> 
> This is a good alternative.
> We will use it until the mail archives on mail-archives.apache.org are
> really internationalized :)

Please note that while this is on the todo list, it isnt currently considered to be a high priority.  In fact it is likely going to remian un-patched until a volunteer offers to work on it for us. 
We have very limited cycles, and we're not all C coders.  If you would like it resolved quicker, perhaps suggesting a member of your community could offer to help us. 

> 
> Tony and Apache infrastructure team,
> 
> We will wait for you.  When you have time, please patch the following issues.
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182
> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> -- 
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> 

-- 

Cheers,
Tony


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Tony Stevenson

tony@pc-tony.com  //  pctony@apache.org
tony@caret.cam.ac.uk

http://blog.pc-tony.com

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Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rob,

Good idea.  Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> What about the MarkMail archives? Is their copy of the archive any better?
> See:  http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-general-ja

This is a good alternative.
We will use it until the mail archives on mail-archives.apache.org are
really internationalized :)

Tony and Apache infrastructure team,

We will wait for you.  When you have time, please patch the following issues.
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182

Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rob,

Good idea.  Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> What about the MarkMail archives? Is their copy of the archive any better?
> See:  http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-general-ja

This is a good alternative.
We will use it until the mail archives on mail-archives.apache.org are
really internationalized :)

Tony and Apache infrastructure team,

We will wait for you.  When you have time, please patch the following issues.
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182

Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tony and all,
>
> Tony, thanks for your comment.
> It is good to know the real situation.
> :)
> We need your help, You need our help.
> :)
>
> OK ooo-dev comrades,
>
> Can you give us a piece of advice please?
>

What about the MarkMail archives? Is their copy of the archive any better?

See:  http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-general-ja

-Rob

> Thanks,
> khirano
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:11, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi infrastructure team and all,
>>>
>>> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
>>> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
>>>
>>> We would like to start with the translation.
>>>
>>> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
>>> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
>>> mailing list must be fixed.
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
>>>
>>> We need your help soon.
>>
>> Actually we need your help. We have limited cycles and time to focus on this.  If you think you could patch this please feel free to submit a patch for modmbox and we can try it.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> khirano
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>>>>
>>>> Any news on this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> khirano
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>>>> khirano
>>>>> --
>>>>> khirano@apache.org
>>>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tony and all,

Tony, thanks for your comment.
It is good to know the real situation.
:)
We need your help, You need our help.
:)

OK ooo-dev comrades,

Can you give us a piece of advice please?

Thanks,
khirano

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:11, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi infrastructure team and all,
>>
>> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
>> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
>>
>> We would like to start with the translation.
>>
>> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
>> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
>> mailing list must be fixed.
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
>>
>> We need your help soon.
>
> Actually we need your help. We have limited cycles and time to focus on this.  If you think you could patch this please feel free to submit a patch for modmbox and we can try it.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>>>
>>> Any news on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> khirano
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>>>
>>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>>> khirano
>>>> --
>>>> khirano@apache.org
>>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>>



-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tony and all,

Tony, thanks for your comment.
It is good to know the real situation.
:)
We need your help, You need our help.
:)

OK ooo-dev comrades,

Can you give us a piece of advice please?

Thanks,
khirano

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:11, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi infrastructure team and all,
>>
>> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
>> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
>>
>> We would like to start with the translation.
>>
>> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
>> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
>> mailing list must be fixed.
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
>>
>> We need your help soon.
>
> Actually we need your help. We have limited cycles and time to focus on this.  If you think you could patch this please feel free to submit a patch for modmbox and we can try it.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>>>
>>> Any news on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> khirano
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>>>
>>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>>> khirano
>>>> --
>>>> khirano@apache.org
>>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>>



-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com>.

Sent from my iPad

On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:11, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi infrastructure team and all,
> 
> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
> 
> We would like to start with the translation.
> 
> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
> mailing list must be fixed.
> 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
> 
> We need your help soon.

Actually we need your help. We have limited cycles and time to focus on this.  If you think you could patch this please feel free to submit a patch for modmbox and we can try it. 

> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>> 
>> Any news on this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>> 
>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>> khirano
>>> --
>>> khirano@apache.org
>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> 

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com>.

Sent from my iPad

On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:11, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi infrastructure team and all,
> 
> Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
> https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
> 
> We would like to start with the translation.
> 
> To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
> contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
> mailing list must be fixed.
> 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
> 
> We need your help soon.

Actually we need your help. We have limited cycles and time to focus on this.  If you think you could patch this please feel free to submit a patch for modmbox and we can try it. 

> 
> Thanks,
> khirano
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>> 
>> Any news on this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> khirano
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>> 
>>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>>> khirano
>>> --
>>> khirano@apache.org
>>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> 

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi infrastructure team and all,

Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/

We would like to start with the translation.

To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
mailing list must be fixed.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/

We need your help soon.

Thanks,
khirano

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>
> Any news on this?
>
> Thanks,
> khirano
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>
>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>> khirano
>> --
>> khirano@apache.org
>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi infrastructure team and all,

Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/

We would like to start with the translation.

To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
mailing list must be fixed.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/

We need your help soon.

Thanks,
khirano

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Apache infrastructure team,
>
> Any news on this?
>
> Thanks,
> khirano
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>>
>> This is a good news!  Thanks.
>> khirano
>> --
>> khirano@apache.org
>> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Apache infrastructure team,

Any news on this?

Thanks,
khirano

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>
> This is a good news!  Thanks.
> khirano
> --
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/



-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Apache infrastructure team,

Any news on this?

Thanks,
khirano

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
>> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
>
> This is a good news!  Thanks.
> khirano
> --
> khirano@apache.org
> Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/



-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

This is a good news!  Thanks.
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Kazunari Hirano <kh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Daniel,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

This is a good news!  Thanks.
khirano
-- 
khirano@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Tony Stevenson <pc...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:00:37PM -0800, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> 
> > (CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
> > mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> > silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
> 
> I know it can be difficult to estimate how long tasks take and OpenOffice is not the only project.
> 
> When do you think this will be reattempted?

Dave, AIUI it is not being actively worked on right now.  We are currently very busy, and a resource down. 
I'll let Daniel give you a specific time, if indeed there is one. But please bare with us for the next couple of weeks. 

-- 

Cheers,
Tony


---------------------------------------
Tony Stevenson

tony@pc-tony.com  //  pctony@apache.org
tony@caret.cam.ac.uk

http://blog.pc-tony.com

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Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Tony Stevenson <pc...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:00:37PM -0800, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> 
> > (CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
> > mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> > silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
> 
> I know it can be difficult to estimate how long tasks take and OpenOffice is not the only project.
> 
> When do you think this will be reattempted?

Dave, AIUI it is not being actively worked on right now.  We are currently very busy, and a resource down. 
I'll let Daniel give you a specific time, if indeed there is one. But please bare with us for the next couple of weeks. 

-- 

Cheers,
Tony


---------------------------------------
Tony Stevenson

tony@pc-tony.com  //  pctony@apache.org
tony@caret.cam.ac.uk

http://blog.pc-tony.com

GPG - 1024D/51047D66
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Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Daniel,

On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

> (CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
> mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

I know it can be difficult to estimate how long tasks take and OpenOffice is not the only project.

When do you think this will be reattempted?

Thanks,
Dave

> 
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012, at 14:37, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>>> 
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/thread?0
>>>> the list archive is unreadable.


Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Daniel,

On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

> (CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
> mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

I know it can be difficult to estimate how long tasks take and OpenOffice is not the only project.

When do you think this will be reattempted?

Thanks,
Dave

> 
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012, at 14:37, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>>> 
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/thread?0
>>>> the list archive is unreadable.


Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
(CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012, at 14:37, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
> >
> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/thread?0
> >> the list archive is unreadable.

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
(CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012, at 14:37, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
> >
> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/thread?0
> >> the list archive is unreadable.